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Re: re Folding Schooner

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    ... Hi Kev, I couldn t get the second link to open that showed the second method. However I can t imagine me lifting and lowering the forward section without
    Message 1 of 5 , Jun 15, 2007
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      --- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "lordborrolan" <lordborrolan@...> wrote:
      > Hi Guy's, Just a thought, but how much weight is actually involved
      > with folding, some say loads, others say different, phk 58 (mostly
      > harmless photos of the folding schooner, on webshots) has a photo of
      > two people with a schooner on it's side and (I pressume) begining to
      > be folded, another site (www.hmshft.org) has a series of photos
      > showing a system of opening a schooner on its trailer, with a wacking
      > great pole, and rope around the main mast to lower it into position.
      > Mr. Bolger says that he opened and closed a schooner on his own, so
      > how much additional weight would be too much ???.

      Hi Kev,

      I couldn't get the second link to open that showed the second method.
      However I can't imagine me lifting and lowering the forward section
      without *some* sort of mechanical assistance. Besides being old, I am
      also lazy:-)

      At Paysons plans location he states the FS as designed requires 14
      sheets of plywood. Two 15.5' skiffs joined in the middle.


      You might get some idea of weights from looking at Jim Michalak's
      plans. Here is one example - a 15.5 X 5 ft. power skiff at 350 pounds.


      The same sailing version only a bit longer is only 250 pounds.


      And another BW style Jon boat at 300 pounds, which might give an
      indication of the stern section.


      If you joined the two cabins that would add some more weight - plus
      and additional layer of ply on the bottom - might perhaps suggest an
      "educated guess" of 450 pounds per section.

      Still - a 31 foot schooner coming in under 1000 pounds might be
      considered extremely light weight in most eyes?

      I will try to post a diagram of the winching arrangement that might
      work, guided with some assistance by a crew member.

      Could it also work with a single leeboard that Michalak uses on many
      of his sailboats up to 32 feet in length? Or the weighted daggerboard
      like the Single Handed Schooner?

      Or perhaps a swing keel like the I60? There is a guy in the UK who has
      designed a simple version therof. I will try to find the link.

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