Re: [bolger] Re: General Questions re: Bolger's "Surf"
- I have 2 thoughts.
150 lbs. is *a lot* of boat to lift onto a car, even a short VW, even one end at a time.
Reducing flotation inside the boat compensated by flotation in an outrigger can only be done so far. I think of the same scenario myself at times. I keep in mind that flotation becomes useful at the worst of times. If you have a capsize in rough water and the outrigger has enough flotation to float the entire rig but the main hull doesn't or doesn't quite, then as you are trying to re-board the boat, it will sink while the outrigger floats. If this doesn't make sense, I'll try to explain further.
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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:13 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: General Questions re: Bolger's "Surf"
Good information to know - especially about the possible cramped
quarters. Thank you very much. (Also, my wife just told me that our
oldest now weighs 60 lbs.!)
Can you tell me how much the Windsprint weighs? The 150 lbs. of your
Surf is about the max I wanted to go, and I'm assuming the Windsprint
weighs even more. (150 lbs may not seem like much, but I'm trying to
picture my wife and I up-ending and lifting a 150 lb, 16' boat onto
the top of our car - and the picture isn't pretty.) I also have to
make sure I can find a 4'6"+ roof rack that can fit my VW Passat
Let me ask one other advice question: If the windsprint won't work
for me, is it possible to add a removable outrigger rig to the Surf?
My thinking is that this will help with stability and - possibly -
allow me to reduce the size of the flotation compartments which will
allow for more "people" room in the boat.
--- In email@example.com, "Loy Seal" <loyseal1@...> wrote:
> My Surf weighs about 150 lbs made from 1/4" SYP plywood and the it
> sheathed with fiberglass on the bottom to the waterline. The fore
> aft compartments are covered and filled with foam. The boat will
> your family but there will not be much room left. You could leave
> the compartments but I like the safety of the flotation. The boat is
> very fast for sailing. A GPS showed it going over 6 knots in 15 knot
> winds last fall. I think I would like something with more beam as a
> drift boat. I wonder if the Windsprint would be better for your
> with a 4'6" beam as opposed to 3'7". The ends of that boat are also
> open for more seating. I love my Surf and you can see pictures in
> Bolger 6 in the photo section.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "marylandbeukers" <marylandbeukers@>
> > Hello,
> > Can anyone tell me the weight and/or displacement of
> > design? Some other related questions: Is it cartop-able? Would
> > recommend it as a calm river drift boat for a family of four
> > kids - each weighing less than fifty pounds)? Do I absolutely
> > have the fore and aft compartments covered? Or can I use them
> > sitting space? Any other pros and cons about the design would be
> > helpful.
> > Thanks much!
> > FB
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- The one thing that has only been touched on here. With
a small bore motor they don't like to be lugged at
all. They make their power at high RPM. So to keep
them from over heating, keep them spun up so they can
make the power needed. In short down shift as soon as
the RPMs start to fall off on the hills.
I have towed with a 64 VW Baja Bug and 74 VW Bus and
they did the job asked of them. My 79 Toyota 4x4 does
all I ask of it and then some and it's a 2.3L motor.
You also have to learn to plan well ahead of yourself
all the time you are moving. Enjoy the time you have
when you can.
--- timbo@... wrote:
> I certainly wouldn't portray my old Geo as the____________________________________________________________________________________
> ultimate towing machine.
> And I purposefully purchased my powerboat because it
> is exactly the right
> size to hold my kids and still be reasonably towed
> with my car.
> Certainly the larger the vehicle, the less it is
> affected by the weight of
> the trailer.
> What I hoped to accomplish was to provide an example
> of what is doable,
> not what is optimal. The original poster is
> wondering if he can budget
> for a $250 trailer, and I'm guessing he can't
> entertain purchasing a
> different vehicle just to tow his boat for 10
> weekends in the summer. Is
> his Passat capable of safely and occasionally towing
> and launching any
> unballasted sailboat under 20 feet without
> destroying his drivetrain?
> Almost certainly.
> You are right, hills exacerbate the wear and tear
> that towing puts on a
> car, and I've certainly got no plans to pull my
> powerboat through the
> Rockies, but I'd be confident pulling it a couple
> hundred miles on a
> weekend excursion.
> Sometimes it seems that this whole "trailering"
> thing gets portrayed as
> some big scary deal, and it doesn't need to be.
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