Re: [bolger] Re: Seas of Peas (SOP) - Bolger Claim Found - Bolger Flow Theory (BFT)
> Bolger's visionary theory needs refinementI am not sure PCB would agree. After all, the Bolger box boat,
(the ones with equal curvature sides and bottoms) are cruisers,
not racers. They are no-compromise practical boats made
from low tech but efficient modern materials.
What matters most is real world function, (needing only real
world accuracy). Calculation to a fraction of a decimal point,
for boats like this, *has* no point.
PCB designs his boats; not from equations and computers,
but from the experience and artistry of his fertile mind.
Splitting of hairs could not improve on that.
[Consider the difference between art and science.]
>> Bolger's visionary theory needs refinementBlah blah blah ...
>I am not sure PCB would agree.
I don't see why this SOP issue constantly comes up here all the time, and
on other boating lists as well. Phil Bolger is not dead, you know? So
why don't one of you just fax him and ask him about it? What could
possibly be simpler?
Or are you all afraid that your individual theories about his theory will
> WHY don't one of you just fax him and ask him about it? What couldWell, you could, ;-) but I'm inclined to think if I had stumbled
> possibly be simpler?
into Bolger ( a consequence of stumbling onto the quarterly 'AABB',
wherein I first heard of Bolger, a consequence in turn of collecting
at the newstand the monthly 'Australian Sailing' [which may never
mention Bolger], a consequece of engaging my kids in boating and
club sailing....) say, thirty years ago instead of five, then I may
have. As it is, I think he would have plenty of urgent work in
progress, it is not trivial, it is already in the body of his
writings and design work, and I would expect it to be further dealt
with in the eventual "square - the works" book. And even if it is
spelt out by him, discussion would not cease, but be enriched.
19( ) - ( ) me, and
1927 - ( ) PCB, and
1908 - 1978 C Raymond Hunt, about whom according to C Raymond Hunt
Associates biography and history webpages
"...Ray "clearly had an uncanny ability to rethink the very concept
of what a boat should be and how it should be able to perform.
During flashes of inspiration, everything was reduced in his mind's
eye to a boat's elemental components. Hunt was then able to put to
paper the form of the boat envisioned.... His apparent, uncanny
knowledge of how to move a boat through the water forms a skill no
tank test or formula can replicate.... Ray Hunt, whose work was
marked by great variety and success, was one of the most innovative
designers of his time." ,and
Of whom Bolger writes, " Hunt started with a plywood box. Out of
HIS INSIGHT INTO THE BEHAVIOUR OF MOLECULES he rockered the
bottom and pointed the ends.... The profile sweep of the bottom was
dictated by hydrodynamics, which he grasped as few people
have...."(BWAOM pp 156-157).
. Yet he apparently did not get this PERSONALly in the MAIL from
Hunt for: "Anything Hunt did was worth pondering. Incidently, HIS
WORK supports my opinion that sharpies are best without flaring
sides." (BWAOM p153), and
18(??) - 19(??) Commodore Ralph Munroe. Pre- Hunt's professional,
and PCB's times. Who "... did in Presto, in 1885... (BWAOM p 258)
the form... evolved out of the working sharpie (having) more
virtuosity and less viciousness. (FS p69)", yet Bolger
follows "Hunt's INSIGHT in sharpie design rather than Ralph
Munroe's ..." (BWAOM p119).
Reasonably, PCB clearly has had the 'do-not-disturb-sign' out for a
long time, and lamentably, I could fax neither Munroe, nor Hunt.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "James Greene" <jg6892@g...> wrote:
> >> Bolger's visionary theory needs refinement
> >I am not sure PCB would agree.
> Blah blah blah ...
> I don't see why this SOP issue constantly comes up here all the
> on other boating lists as well. Phil Bolger is not dead, you
> why don't one of you just fax him and ask him about it? What could
> possibly be simpler?
> Or are you all afraid that your individual theories about his
> be wrong???
> James Greene