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  • David Beede
    Thanks for this source! I ve been looking for non logoed tyvek. The kite folks do list it on their site by the way. Their correct url is:
    Message 1 of 2 , Mar 1, 2000
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      Thanks for this source! I've been looking for non logoed tyvek.

      The kite folks do list it on their site by the way.
      Their correct url is: http://www.intothewind.com
      Put tyvek into their search engine. They list it at $2.50/yd (60" width)
      with a 20 yd minimum. I think I'll try contacting them directly about a
      quantity price.

      Anyone know the UV properties of Tyvek? I was told by a builder that he
      didn't use it as house wrap unless it would be sheathed within a week or
      so, due to UV breakdown?
      Thanks,
      David Beede

      david wrote:

      > Blake,
      > You can purchase plain, off-white Tyvek in sixty inch widths for $2.50
      > a
      > running
      > yard ($2.25 for 12+ yards) from _Into The Wind_, a kite hobbyist
      > supply
      > company.
      > They have a website: <http://www.intothewind@com/>. The website
      > doesn't
      > have the
      > Tyvek listed, or much else, but you can place a request for their
      > mail-order
      > catalog from there, or just write them via E-mail at:
      > kites@.... I
      > have no financial connection with these folks, btw. This tyvek is off
      > white and
      > looks sorta like Egyptian cotton from a distance... well, maybe not,
      > but
      > there
      > are no huge logos on it. It can be sewn, glued with contact or rubber
      > cement, or
      > taped with double faced indoor/outdoor carpet tape. Good instructions
      > for making Tyvek sails can be found at:
      > <http://cyber-dyne.com/~jkohnen/Tyvek/index.html.> I haven't used the
      > stuff to make sails, but I have made backpacking tents out of it and
      > it
      > works well,
      > certainly better than six mil polyethylene sheeting. A standard cotton
      >
      > canvas dropcloth could also work, but might be to stretchy to maintain
      > a
      > good shape. As for rubber impregnated canvas, it sounds heavy, but I
      > don't know. Try comparing the weight of the stuff to the weight of a
      > similar sized blue polytarp. If it weighs much more, it's probably too
      >
      > much, imho,
      > david
      > PS: With boats, even Bolger boxes, aesthetics are always a
      > consideration; you
      > are not wrong in seeking visual beauty. Your boat _should_ be
      > beautiful,
      > if only
      > to you....
      >
      > Blake Sartin wrote:
      >
      > > I was wondering if anyone has experience using the butyl-rubber
      > impregnated
      > > canvas dropcloth (or the standard canvas, for that matter) as a sail
      >
      > > material?
      > >
      > > I was at the local hardware megastore yesterday and I noticed that
      > the price
      > > of these dropcloths is very reasonable, and they seem to be a more
      > "meaty"
      > > substance than plain old polytarp. Is this material totally unusable
      > for a
      > > sail in boats of this size? Is it too heavy?
      > >
      > > I want to make my own cheap sail, just wondering if there's any good
      >
      > > alternative to polytarp that is still cheap. I'm still considering
      > > advertizing for DuPont's Tyvek, I've heard good results from that
      > material.
      > > Only thing that scares me off is the giant labels.
      > >
      > > I also read about using 6-mil plastic sheeting in the plans that I
      > got for
      > > the Stevenson 3-in-1. They seem to swear by this for the lateen, but
      > use
      > > blue poly exclusively on their other boats.
      > >
      > > But it seems to me that the canvas would "look" the best. Am I
      > placing too
      > > much emphasis on visual beauty?
      > >
      > >
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    • david
      To David and all, The 2000 _Into The Wind_ catalog lists the price for Tyvek as $2.50 a yard for 1 to 12 yards and $2.25 a yard for 12+ yards, just as I
      Message 2 of 2 , Mar 1, 2000
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        To David and all,
        The 2000 _Into The Wind_ catalog lists the price for Tyvek as
        $2.50 a yard for 1 to 12 yards and $2.25 a yard for 12+ yards, just
        as I posted. I don't know why the prices differ on the web site; if I
        were to order there, I would ask them. As to durability, I have no
        experience with the stuff as sailcloth (or house wrap, for that
        matter), but for kites, tents and tarps it seems to hold up well. One
        tent made of the stuff (not mine) survived a six month traverse of the
        Appalachian Trail and is still reported usable three years later.
        About my screwing up the URL for Into The Wind, I can only
        say D'oh!..., er, I mean, Duh!,
        david

        David Beede wrote:

        > Thanks for this source! I've been looking for non logoed tyvek.
        >
        > The kite folks do list it on their site by the way.
        > Their correct url is: http://www.intothewind.com
        > Put tyvek into their search engine. They list it at $2.50/yd (60" width)
        > with a 20 yd minimum. I think I'll try contacting them directly about a
        > quantity price.
        >
        > Anyone know the UV properties of Tyvek? I was told by a builder that he
        > didn't use it as house wrap unless it would be sheathed within a week or
        > so, due to UV breakdown?
        > Thanks,
        > David Beede
        >
        > david wrote:
        >
        > > Blake,
        > > You can purchase plain, off-white Tyvek in sixty inch widths for $2.50
        > > a
        > > running
        > > yard ($2.25 for 12+ yards) from _Into The Wind_, a kite hobbyist
        > > supply
        > > company.
        > > They have a website: <http://www.intothewind@com/>. The website
        > > doesn't
        > > have the
        > > Tyvek listed, or much else, but you can place a request for their
        > > mail-order
        > > catalog from there, or just write them via E-mail at:
        > > kites@.... I
        > > have no financial connection with these folks, btw. This tyvek is off
        > > white and
        > > looks sorta like Egyptian cotton from a distance... well, maybe not,
        > > but
        > > there
        > > are no huge logos on it. It can be sewn, glued with contact or rubber
        > > cement, or
        > > taped with double faced indoor/outdoor carpet tape. Good instructions
        > > for making Tyvek sails can be found at:
        > > <http://cyber-dyne.com/~jkohnen/Tyvek/index.html.> I haven't used the
        > > stuff to make sails, but I have made backpacking tents out of it and
        > > it
        > > works well, certainly better than six mil polyethylene sheeting....
        >
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