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Re: [bolger] Digest Number 794 & Windermere

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  • Steven Geoffrey Keating
    Could someone provide the web site or address to view the images of Windmere? Thanks and Happy New Year Steve
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 31, 2001
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      Could someone provide the web site or address to view the images of Windmere?

      Thanks and Happy New Year

      Steve

      bolger@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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      > There are 24 messages in this issue.
      >
      > Topics in this digest:
      >
      > 1. Re: Bee?
      > From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
      > 2. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: Larry Whited <lwhited@...>
      > 3. Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
      > From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
      > 4. Re: Re: batteries, series vs parallel
      > From: "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@...>
      > 5. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "dnjost" <djost@...>
      > 6. Re: Digest Number 793 - 'BEE'
      > From: "Ron Magen" <quohog@...>
      > 7. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > 8. Re: Michigan Messabout
      > From: "rdchamberland" <cha62759@...>
      > 9. Re: Michigan Messabout
      > From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
      > 10. Re: Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
      > From: "Phillip & Isabella" <isabella@...>
      > 11. Re: Re: Plan Resale
      > From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
      > 12. Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
      > From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
      > 13. Gunter Rig
      > From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
      > 14. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@...>
      > 15. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "John Bell" <jmbell@...>
      > 16. Re: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
      > 17. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "vexatious2001" <cadbury@...>
      > 18. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > 19. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > 20. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > 21. Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > 22. Re: Gunter Rig
      > From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...>
      > 23. Re: Wyoming
      > From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
      > 24. Wyoming
      > From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 1
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:38:52 -0800
      > From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
      > Subject: Re: Bee?
      >
      > Leave out the, "Bolger."
      >
      > kingfm wrote:
      > >
      > > Anyone built a Bolger Bee or has there been any discussion
      > > of it
      > > here? If you do a search in the archives for it you get
      > > virtually
      > > every post!
      > >
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 2
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 00:34:09 -0800 (PST)
      > From: Larry Whited <lwhited@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > I am new to the Bolger group but have built a Nymph and a Micro. I am very excited about the Windermere design. It represents a size and usability level that makes it an attractive project. By this I mean that the boats in the 20-23 foot catagory require a lot of building time and still don't quite meet my desires for extended cruising. This one really promises a lot. I will eagerly follow any and all building projects of this design. I hope a web site will go along with this detailing the building experience!
      > Good Luck with this exciting project. Perhaps I will be next.
      > Larry
      > ellengaestboatbuildingcom <ellengaest@...> wrote: Bolgerados,
      > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group illustrating
      > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
      > She will be my future retirement home and all-around cruiser.As
      > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
      > everyone up-dated.Promise!
      > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
      > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
      > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
      > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who so
      > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you, Phil!)
      > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
      > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will not
      > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
      > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
      >
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      > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
      > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
      > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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      > Message: 3
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 08:01:44 -0600
      > From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
      > Subject: Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
      >
      > No, it's one of those antique information devices called books. Search Amazon or your favorite bookseller for: "Boats with an Open Mind" by Phil Bolger. Then buy it - no exceptions!
      >
      > Chuck
      > >No I havent, is it a online article?
      > thanks
      > Sam
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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      > Message: 4
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 09:19:14 -0500
      > From: "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@...>
      > Subject: Re: Re: batteries, series vs parallel
      >
      > A couple of pict at www.carr.org/~clydewis
      >
      > brucehallman wrote:
      >
      > > --- In bolger@y..., "Clyde S. Wisner" <clydewis@c...> wrote:
      > >
      > > >(I have a Lily)
      > >
      > > You have a Lily, cool! Any pictures available?
      > >
      > >
      > > Bolger rules!!!
      > > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
      > > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
      > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
      > > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
      > > - Unsubscribe: bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      > >
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      >
      > Message: 5
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:35:48 -0000
      > From: "dnjost" <djost@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Peter,
      > Best of luck with your project. I am kind of surprised at the
      > quantum shift from your Micro, but I am sure that your construction
      > skills will produce a quality project.
      > What is the little derrick on the front for? It kind of reminds
      > me of a Winnebago with a motor. This boat could be a lot of fun!
      >
      > David Jost
      >
      >
      > > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
      > illustrating
      > > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
      > > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
      > cruiser.As
      > > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
      > > everyone up-dated.Promise!
      > > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
      > > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
      > > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
      > > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who
      > so
      > > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
      > Phil!)
      > > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
      > > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
      > > Sincerely,
      > > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
      > not
      > > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
      > > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 6
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 12:09:47 -0500
      > From: "Ron Magen" <quohog@...>
      > Subject: Re: Digest Number 793 - 'BEE'
      >
      > 'kingfm' & Vince and Mary Ann,
      >
      > Nice to see that my article made such an impression.
      >
      > If you want any specific information that isn't mentioned, or help,
      > please drop me a line.
      >
      > Regards,
      > Ron Magen
      > Backyard Boatshop
      >
      > > Message: 16
      > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:16:58 -0000
      > > From: "kingfm" <king@...>
      > > Subject: Bee?
      > >
      > > Anyone built a Bolger Bee or has there been any discussion of it
      > > here? If you do a search in the archives for it you get virtually
      > > every post!
      > >
      > >
      > > Message: 17
      > > Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 21:58:21 -0500
      > > From: Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@...>
      > > Subject: RE: Bee?
      > >
      > >
      > > Have you see this article in Duckworks Magazine?
      > >
      > >
      > > http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/articles/bee/index.htm
      > >
      > >
      >
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      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 7
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 17:29:33 -0000
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > David,
      > Thanks.Sure,it appears as a big shift but it has the headroom I've
      > always dreamed about along with some genuine space to
      > cruise/live-a-board in fine fashion,also something I've dreamed of for
      > a very very long time.
      > That little derrick in front? Well,that's for raising a 30lb
      > anchor without fear of damaging the hull sides or wrecking my lower
      > back and as I intend to do alot of river cruising,I expect to do alot
      > of anchoring to take fukk advantage of the autonomy this boat offers
      > from expensive marinas etc......
      > She'll be a grand sight to see coasting down to a future Lake
      > Champlain Bolger Messabout with all the comforts of home including a
      > very happy Pesky Crew!!
      > And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me by a
      > long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
      > ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
      > Continued Success with FIREFLY!
      >
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the snow
      > on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
      >
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "dnjost" <djost@m...> wrote:
      > > Peter,
      > > Best of luck with your project. I am kind of surprised at the
      > > quantum shift from your Micro, but I am sure that your construction
      > > skills will produce a quality project.
      > > What is the little derrick on the front for? It kind of
      > reminds
      > > me of a Winnebago with a motor. This boat could be a lot of fun!
      > >
      > > David Jost
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 8
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 21:14:53 -0000
      > From: "rdchamberland" <cha62759@...>
      > Subject: Re: Michigan Messabout
      >
      > Late June or July sounds good to me. I can recommend Suttons Bay as a
      > venue though after the fourth rooms get scarce. There is a State
      > campground north of Northport but a rocky beach. If the timing is
      > right and the crowd not too large I might be able to host campers
      > though sanitation would be a portipotty (commercial variety) and
      > garden hose. There may be a "Wooden Boat Festival" in the Village of
      > Suttons Bay in that time span also. This past year it was cancelled
      > because of construction of a new fishing dock at the usual site. (This
      > is not the usual swarm of shiny Chris-Crafts and Gar Woods etc but a
      > very eclectic mix of boats including a Bolger box at times. There
      > might be a CC or two but this is not an event of the Antique Boat
      > Society whatever its name is. I had intended to go the Saginaw event
      > last summer but visitors obtruded. It looked to me that that event was
      > heavy on kayaks. You would not want to get dunked in early June; by
      > the fourth the water is warming up (sort of).
      > Bob Chamberland
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@v...> wrote:
      > > Sounds like a winner. There was one in St. Ignace a few years back and
      > > some kind of a get together in the Saginaw/Bay City area the past couple
      > > of years. I went to St. Ignace, but haven't been to the Saginaw/Bay City
      > > one. Where do you have in mind?
      > >
      > > Vince Chew
      > > Charlevoix
      > >
      > > Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI Wrote
      > >
      > > .................... P.S. Sorry for the slightly off topic message,
      > > folks. If I find a few
      > > more Michiganians, might be able to put together a
      > > Michigan Messabout
      > > this summer.
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 9
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:25:29 -0000
      > From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
      > Subject: Re: Michigan Messabout
      >
      > Bob -- excellent point about the water temperature. Heck, even down
      > this way the water does not really warm up until mid-August if we are
      > lucky. Just this last summer my wife, Terry, and I went strolling
      > along the Lake Michigan shore in mid-late July and I swear the water
      > temp was in the mid-upper 50's. It took me walking around on hot sand
      > for 15 minutes before I could feel my feet again!
      > Maybe we could settle on a large inland lake -- we have more
      > than 10,000 to choose from. These would offer a warmer dunk if
      > circumstances warrant.
      >
      > Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "rdchamberland" <cha62759@t...> wrote:
      > > Late June or July sounds good to me. I can recommend Suttons Bay as
      > a
      > > venue though after the fourth rooms get scarce. There is a State
      > > campground north of Northport but a rocky beach. If the timing is
      > > right and the crowd not too large I might be able to host campers
      > > though sanitation would be a portipotty (commercial variety) and
      > > garden hose. There may be a "Wooden Boat Festival" in the Village of
      > > Suttons Bay in that time span also. This past year it was cancelled
      > > because of construction of a new fishing dock at the usual site.
      > (This
      > > is not the usual swarm of shiny Chris-Crafts and Gar Woods etc but a
      > > very eclectic mix of boats including a Bolger box at times. There
      > > might be a CC or two but this is not an event of the Antique Boat
      > > Society whatever its name is. I had intended to go the Saginaw event
      > > last summer but visitors obtruded. It looked to me that that event
      > was
      > > heavy on kayaks. You would not want to get dunked in early June; by
      > > the fourth the water is warming up (sort of).
      > > Bob Chamberland
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > --- In bolger@y..., Vince and Mary Ann Chew <vachew@v...> wrote:
      > > > Sounds like a winner. There was one in St. Ignace a few years
      > back and
      > > > some kind of a get together in the Saginaw/Bay City area the past
      > couple
      > > > of years. I went to St. Ignace, but haven't been to the
      > Saginaw/Bay City
      > > > one. Where do you have in mind?
      > > >
      > > > Vince Chew
      > > > Charlevoix
      > > >
      > > > Dennis Marshall, Grand Rapids, MI Wrote
      > > >
      > > > .................... P.S. Sorry for the slightly off topic
      > message,
      > > > folks. If I find a few
      > > > more Michiganians, might be able to put
      > together a
      > > > Michigan Messabout
      > > > this summer.
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 10
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:30:17 +1000
      > From: "Phillip & Isabella" <isabella@...>
      > Subject: Re: Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Andrew Pryer" <dukepryer@...>
      > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:55 PM
      > Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
      >
      > > G'day
      > > re : your problem with out board motor
      > >
      > > I was up against the same problem tryng to fit my outboard into the Long
      > > Micro I am building. I got around it by introducing a curve to the top of
      > > the transom this gained me about 2 inches or more.
      > > You can see what I have done at the the website I'm putting together (
      > just
      > > updated )
      > >
      > > I'm as interested as you regarding other's suggestions for mooring lines
      > > etc.
      > >
      > > Good luck with sorting it out.
      > > My website at http://members.tripod.com/rivalduke site has lots of
      > > construction pictures and takes awhile to load
      > >
      > > Thanks Andrew Pryer
      > > Victoria
      > > Australia
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 1:50 AM
      > > Subject: [bolger] Re: Sailing a Micro (newbie)
      > >
      > >
      > > > --- In bolger@y..., "robertsmme" <martin.me.roberts@b...> wrote:
      > > > > I have just purchase a 2nd hand micro, and was wondering if any one
      > > > > could give me tips on sailing one. I live on a tidal estuary, The
      > > > > Deben in eastern England and would appreciate any help and piinters
      > > > > that people can give. I am concerned about two things in
      > > > particular:
      > > > >
      > > > > 1) As the rear bulkhead was not adjusted for a larger motor the
      > > > motor
      > > > > has been put on a bracket behind the rear bulkhead. This means
      > > > > reaching it is going to be difficult. Any tips on either remotely
      > > > > controlling the motor or on adjusting the rear bulk head to
      > > > > accomodate the larger motor.
      > > > >
      > > > > 2) Attaching the Bow to a mooring or anchor. Do you attach them
      > > > > through the 'ladder' holes or over the bow gunnel?
      > > > > Thanks
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Hello Lucky Micro owner,
      > > > When you say the transom was not adjusted for a larger motor,are
      > > > you refering to the vertical dimension? If so,then the easy solution
      > > > is to cut out the top section over the opening and install a
      > > > traveller horse.You can also widen the opening a wee bit too,if that
      > > > is tight.
      > > > As to the anchoring question,I resolved mine through the
      > > > installation of a hawse pipe located between to two step cut-outs.
      > > > Hopefully,other satisfied Micro owners will chime in with other
      > > > solutions to ensure trouble free use of your boat!
      > > >
      > > > Sincerely,
      > > > Peter Lenihan,happy Micro owner................
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Bolger rules!!!
      > > > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
      > > > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
      > > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
      > > > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
      > > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
      > > > - Unsubscribe: bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      > > >
      > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
      > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Bolger rules!!!
      > > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
      > > - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
      > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
      > > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
      > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
      > > - Unsubscribe: bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
      > >
      > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      > >
      > >
      >
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      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 11
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:25:24 -0500 (EST)
      > From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
      > Subject: Re: Re: Plan Resale
      >
      > Thomas, what comes after "(Snip)"? Inquiring minds
      > want to know. ;)<
      >
      > I can imagine. Nothing so scandalous was snipped, but
      > I am not going to be the conduit for it.
      >
      > ______________________________________________________
      > Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca
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      >
      > Message: 12
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 18:37:25 -0500 (EST)
      > From: thomas dalzell <proaconstrictor@...>
      > Subject: Re: info needed Bolger SuperBrick
      >
      > In the book he describes it by allusion to the
      > Shanty-boat concept. This is less a boat for sailing
      > and motoring pleasure, than a houseboat that can be
      > sailed and motored. Of course as to how all that
      > sorts out, would depend on the kind of
      > sailing/motoring one had in mind, might be perfect
      > daysailer for someone.
      >
      > The article also makes clear that the boat is built in
      > sections, so that one assembles the skiff, and then
      > builds up the sides and over the top, for ease of
      > construction.
      >
      > --- Chuck Leinweber <chuck@...>
      > wrote:
      >
      > <HR>
      > <html><body>
      >
      > <tt>
      > Sam:<BR>
      > <BR>
      > I guess you have seen the chapter on SuperBrick in
      > BWAOM page 365.<BR>
      > <BR>
      > Chuck<BR>
      >   Looking for printed mateial on Bolger
      > SuperBrick<BR>
      >   Ive seen the pictures in file, need a article
      > on it.<BR>
      >   Ive searched web and have found nothing.<BR>
      >   Thanks<BR>
      >   Sam<BR>
      > <BR>
      > <BR>
      > <BR>
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      > Message: 13
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 01:55:56 -0000
      > From: "pseudodion3" <PseudoDion3@...>
      > Subject: Gunter Rig
      >
      > Hi, All. PCB is certainly no fan of the gunter rig -- at least
      > according to "103 Small Rigs." However, I notice that these are used
      > in many designs still. Could it be that it has more virtures than
      > vices. Would anyone care to comment?
      >
      > Thanks, Dennis Marshall
      >
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      > Message: 14
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 03:39:43 -0000
      > From: "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Peter, what a hell of a fine looking craft.
      > A couple of points of interest to me- seems to be a Sneakeasy type
      > hull, with the corner filled in, presumably to cut out slap? Is the
      > fill in piece foam or ply? Does she have water ballast...looks like
      > tanks down the keel?
      > No more anchoring to beat the tides!
      > DonB
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@b...>
      > wrote:
      > > Bolgerados,
      > > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
      > illustrating
      > > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
      > > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
      > cruiser.As
      > > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
      > > everyone up-dated.Promise!
      > > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
      > > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
      > > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
      > > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who
      > so
      > > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
      > Phil!)
      > > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
      > > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
      > > Sincerely,
      > > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
      > not
      > > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
      > > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 15
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 22:52:18 -0500
      > From: "John Bell" <jmbell@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > A sweet little cruiser you have there. Looks like quite project ahead of
      > you. Hope you can secure some heated building space so you can at least make
      > progress in the winter time.
      >
      > Is that a deck aft above the motors? How are you supposed to launch (and
      > retrieve) the skiff?
      >
      > JB
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:10 AM
      > Subject: [bolger] WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > | Bolgerados,
      > | I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group illustrating
      > | the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
      > | She will be my future retirement home and all-around cruiser.As
      > | the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and keeping
      > | everyone up-dated.Promise!
      > | I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as she
      > | represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
      > | cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my liking
      > | and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger who so
      > | generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you, Phil!)
      > | Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
      > | offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
      > | Sincerely,
      > | Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will not
      > | be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
      > | home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
      > |
      > |
      > |
      > | Bolger rules!!!
      > | - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
      > | - pls take "personals" off-list, stay on topic, and punctuate
      > | - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts, snip all you like
      > | - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
      > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
      > | - Unsubscribe: bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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      > | Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
      > |
      > |
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      > Message: 16
      > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 23:09:22 -0600
      > From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
      > Subject: Re: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > What? No Viking funeral?
      >
      > Chuck
      > And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me by a
      > long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
      > ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
      > Continued Success with FIREFLY!
      >
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the snow
      > on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
      >
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      > Message: 17
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 06:13:36 -0000
      > From: "vexatious2001" <cadbury@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > ---
      >
      > > of anchoring to take fukk advantage of the autonomy this boat offers
      > > from expensive marinas etc......
      >
      > I am really sorry but i can just NOT resist the temptation
      > to bring up the "shi__ing ballast" post again!
      >
      > P.S. I really like the design although it is WAY more
      > project than I think I will ever tackle (and finish).
      >
      > Keep us advised of progress!
      >
      > Max
      >
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      > Message: 18
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:21:01 -0000
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Hello Don,
      > The fillet you refer to is out of plywood with foam to fill in
      > the dead space.Yes,it is used to reduce the slap/pounding of wave
      > action.The boxkeel in this boat(unlike SNEAKEASY?) is partially used
      > to hold/store key elements of the boat eg;batteries,anchor.
      > Her "ballast" comes from a thick bottom and shoe assembly along
      > with the weight of the batteries(1824lbs).Of course,the freshwater
      > holding tanks(835lbs) and fuel capacity(1230lbs) is not to be ignored
      > and contribute positively to her overall stability.
      > The"tanks" you refer to are actually part of the battery
      > pack.All the tanks are situated bellow the cabin floor but not in the
      > boxkeel.
      > Glad to hear that you think she is good looking! Bolger is
      > such a crafty designer........!
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "dbaldnz" <dbaldnz@y...> wrote:
      > > Peter, what a hell of a fine looking craft.
      > > A couple of points of interest to me- seems to be a Sneakeasy type
      > > hull, with the corner filled in, presumably to cut out slap? Is
      > the
      > > fill in piece foam or ply? Does she have water ballast...looks
      > like
      > > tanks down the keel?
      > > No more anchoring to beat the tides!
      > > DonB
      > >
      > > --- In bolger@y..., "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@b...>
      > > wrote:
      > > > Bolgerados,
      > > > I have just up-loaded two files to the Bolger2 group
      > > illustrating
      > > > the Bolger design WINDERMERE.
      > > > She will be my future retirement home and all-around
      > > cruiser.As
      > > > the building of her progresses,I'll be posting pictures and
      > keeping
      > > > everyone up-dated.Promise!
      > > > I hope you enjoy re-viewing the files of her especially as
      > she
      > > > represents a very serious attempt at creating honest-to-goodness
      > > > cruising capability/endurance within a shape very much to my
      > liking
      > > > and she is,of course,from the board of our hero,Philip C.Bolger
      > who
      > > so
      > > > generously made me an offer I just couldn't refuse.(Thank you,
      > > Phil!)
      > > > Plans for this most enchanting design are available from the
      > > > offices of PCB & Friends Inc.
      > > > Sincerely,
      > > > Peter Lenihan,head over heals for this design and no,LESTAT will
      > > not
      > > > be relegated to the role of dinghy(she really deserves a good
      > > > home!),from the chilly shores of the St.Lawrence......
      >
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      >
      > Message: 19
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:31:39 -0000
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Morning John,
      > One of the advantages of this type of construction is that one
      > can proceed with the building of many components(bulkeads etc) before
      > actual setup.This will allow me to begin in a space no bigger then a
      > garage.If things move along smartly,summer time should see me
      > assembling the whole works together.In fact,Bolger recommends
      > starting with the bulkheads to work up effecient building habits then
      > moving on to the side-panels and finally the bottom.The bottom is
      > meant to be built upside down as a unit and virtually finished before
      > roll-over.Afterward,bulkheads are installed using temporary braces
      > followed by"wrapping around" the pre-assembled side panels.
      > Yes that is a small aft deck which can be expanded by lowering an
      > (optional) panel aft.The skiffs overhead are lowered and retrieved
      > through an ingenius davit setup included on the plans from Bolger.Our
      > hero thinks of everything!
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,wishing he lived in the sunny sunny south!
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
      > > A sweet little cruiser you have there. Looks like quite project
      > ahead of
      > > you. Hope you can secure some heated building space so you can at
      > least make
      > > progress in the winter time.
      > >
      > > Is that a deck aft above the motors? How are you supposed to launch
      > (and
      > > retrieve) the skiff?
      > >
      > > JB
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 20
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 12:42:25 -0000
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Ahh Chuck,
      > While this may be a wee bit premature considering the boat ain't
      > even built yet,but I can easily see the enviro-police going ballastic
      > when the fuel,batteries and holdingtank explode in one mighty toxic
      > blast..........besides,I'm Irish!
      > I'd much rather have me friends gathered around the boat for a
      > good soaking in the finest beverages available from the"licker"store
      > followed by a non too serious parade over to the as yet built PHILIP
      > C.BOLGER MUSEUM of NAUTICAL HISTORICS were she(the boat) can be
      > donated!
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,feeling the pull of my Celtic ancestors over the
      > ether,stuck here at work...burp......it's tough....and
      > lonely....burp.....but I canna stay home!
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
      > > What? No Viking funeral?
      > >
      > > Chuck
      > > And finally,if I do this right,WINDERMERE should out-live me
      > by a
      > > long shot.A truly wonderful way to ease into retirement and
      > > ultimately out of this life.Heeee! Haaaa!
      > > Continued Success with FIREFLY!
      > >
      > > Sincerely,
      > > Peter Lenihan,on the threshold of a dream come true,despite the
      > snow
      > > on the shores of the St.Lawrence...........
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
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      >
      > Message: 21
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:42:18 -0000
      > From: "ellengaestboatbuildingcom" <ellengaest@...>
      > Subject: Re: WINDERMERE revealed...at last!
      >
      > Max,
      > Yes,WINDERMERE has the DLD toilette feature and this is just as
      > well since most composting heads would require a considerable amount
      > of electricity to opperate properly in my generally cooler climate.
      > The holding tank is not a ballast feature.......
      >
      > Sincerely,
      > Peter Lenihan,still wondering about the usefullness of Zebra mussels
      > for serious chomping/recycling of waste element.....
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "vexatious2001" <cadbury@s...> wrote:
      > > I am really sorry but i can just NOT resist the temptation
      > > to bring up the "shi__ing ballast" post again!
      > >
      > > P.S. I really like the design although it is WAY more
      > > project than I think I will ever tackle (and finish).
      > >
      > > Keep us advised of progress!
      > >
      > > Max
      >
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      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 22
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 13:50:15 -0000
      > From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderwaart@...>
      > Subject: Re: Gunter Rig
      >
      > > PCB is certainly no fan of the gunter rig -- at least
      > > according to "103 Small Rigs."
      >
      > Bolger usually uses the Solent Lug rig instead of the gunter. The
      > difference is that there is no attachment of the heel of the yard to
      > the mast. The tradeoff is that the gunter may bind and be difficult
      > to raise or lower, whereas the Solent Lug may blow off downwind and
      > be hard to control.
      >
      > His preference extends even to quite large boats such as the Wolf
      > Trap 30 about which he said that the yard was unpopular "for reasons
      > easy to imagine." Very easy!
      >
      > PHV
      >
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
      > Message: 23
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 15:58:47 -0000
      > From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
      > Subject: Re: Wyoming
      >
      > Good question! I'm not sure we would need 3 weeks but we envision
      > doing a lot of idling along staying put for weeks at a time. We
      > would like to head out into the FL Keys or backwaters of LA,
      > Tombigbee, St. Lawrence and the Great Lakes. Many of the river
      > travels will not include pump out stations close together. We'd also
      > like the ability just to relax and do nothing, maybe explore a whole
      > area, and Murphy's Law dictates it'll be somewhere that doesn't have
      > a pump out station or fresh water.
      >
      > Being able to hide away for 2 weeks at a time is part of our dream.
      >
      > While less than 2 weeks is realistic, 3 weeks of self containment is
      > just a comfort zone.
      >
      > Jeff
      >
      > --- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
      > > I'm curious about the need for three weeks of self-sufficiency in
      > your
      > > proposed cruise. It's not like you are going to be far from
      > civilization
      > > anywhere on the ICW or any of the rivers draining the central US.
      > What's
      > > driving that requirement?
      > >
      > > Glad to see you are interested in Wyoh again. Keep us posted.
      > >
      > > JB
      > >
      > >
      >
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      >
      > Message: 24
      > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:01:26 -0000
      > From: "jhbjap" <boatbuilding@...>
      > Subject: Wyoming
      >
      > After a week of serious viewing the new Wyo plans, I am impressed
      > with the ease at which a very large boat can be built.
      >
      > Almost no seam taping, fillets only to stop water from standing in
      > corners. Each bulkhead, seam, etc. is backed up with 1 1/2" square
      > frames or larger.
      >
      > With a bit of planning, all parts can be cut, epoxy and/or glassed as
      > need before assembly using a small garage. Assembly could literally
      > be done in a few full days of work with a couple strong helpers. (I
      > have 5 sons, teenagers and older.) After assembly, jack up one side
      > at a time just enough to finish the chines and bottom seams.
      >
      > Still, a large project, but I think she can be assembled in 500
      > hours. Another 500 hours or more for fit out and finish work.
      >
      > That's the real genius of Mr. Bolger! Ya just gotta love it!
      >
      > Jeff
      >
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    • ellengaestboatbuildingcom
      Steve, Either check out the latest MAIB issue or go to the BOLGER2 YAHOO group,under files... That s about all that exists for the moment. Peter Lenihan ...
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        Steve,
        Either check out the latest MAIB issue or go to the BOLGER2
        YAHOO group,under files...
        That's about all that exists for the moment.
        Peter Lenihan




        --- In bolger@y..., Steven Geoffrey Keating <sgkeating@m...> wrote:
        > Could someone provide the web site or address to view the images of
        Windmere?
        >
        > Thanks and Happy New Year
        >
        > Steve
      • Sam Glasscock
        Peter: I am eagerly awaiting my MAIB to see the new Windemere. Does the article describe the flat davits for dinghy launch/retrieval? Or could you fill us
        Message 3 of 3 , Dec 31, 2001
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          Peter:
          I am eagerly awaiting my MAIB to see the new
          Windemere. Does the article describe the "flat
          davits" for dinghy launch/retrieval? Or could you
          fill us in on the design?

          Thanks, Sam.

          --- ellengaestboatbuildingcom
          <ellengaest@...> wrote:
          > Steve,
          > Either check out the latest MAIB issue or go to
          > the BOLGER2
          > YAHOO group,under files...
          > That's about all that exists for the moment.
          >
          > Peter Lenihan
          >
          >
          >
          >
          > --- In bolger@y..., Steven Geoffrey Keating
          > <sgkeating@m...> wrote:
          > > Could someone provide the web site or address to
          > view the images of
          > Windmere?
          > >
          > > Thanks and Happy New Year
          > >
          > > Steve
          >
          >
          >


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