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  • Chief Redelk
    Dec 24, 2013
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      Smile.. Thanks for that kind comment...If you ever get a chance to
      come this way stop in for a visit..

      We would enjoy a visit.

      I have been dating my new lady friend Connie for a short while but she
      and I became attracted to the thinking of each other. We have a mental
      connection..She likes comments like the one you commented on. smile..

      Of course after a spark of interest lighted the fire of of admiration
      we soon found physical attraction..

      Looking back I don't think either of us were physically attracted in
      the beginning..Love for use was born without eyes and with it's ears
      wide open, smile..

      I would like to share an opinion with you...

      Life is not a static thing but a constant happening. It's an
      opportunity to create.

      Our physical creations often become burdens and seldom satisfy our illusions.

      I like think of possessions as a kid who owns a horse.

      In the end the Horse owns the kid who rides the horse but serves the
      horse providing for it so he can ride a healthy strong horse..The
      circle becomes blurred as we realize at one time or another the owner
      becomes the owned..

      I believe our most joyful and longest lasting creations are good memories..

      When a man becomes disabled or for some reason and is not able to go
      places, his mind, like a laughing child playing among fallen leaves
      finds joy in his good memories.

      I told you that story to tell you this..

      No man knows for sure but life may be a dream that ends with our death..

      We can live our dreams over and over while we are living.. Therefore a
      man is well advised to dream a good dream for himself...

      It's the good dreams, good memories we own without being owned by them..

      It's the unpleasant memories which would enslave us..Joy and peace
      comes when we control our memories, emotions, and thoughts..

      May your days be filled with good dreams and your mind be strong
      enough to not validate any thoughts that would convert your dreams
      into nightmares....

      Be well..Chief..

      On 12/24/13, Wayne Gilham <wgilham@...> wrote:
      > oooooh MY! there's a phrase in the wonderfully-written reply below, that
      > should become a classic on
      > this website, oft-repeated (as it applies to a LOT of discussions):
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      > "...It was not the dead pigs fault.."
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      > timeless!
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      > brilliant, Chief!
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      > Wayne Gilham
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      > From: bolger@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bolger@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
      > Chief Redelk
      > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 8:44 PM
      > To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [bolger] Options for ply thickness for similar sharpie
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      > Agreed Bill.. My canoe fits that bill as well.
      >
      > My point is that building light is most important in boats NOT on a
      > trailer.. That would be car top boats. Yes they would need to be
      > light..
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      > My future boats will all be trailered since I am getting older and not
      > able to handle a 70 lb boat like I once could.
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      > Therefore my future boats can be made out of 3/8 plywood and due to my
      > building skills will not a lot heavier than 1/4 ext plywood.
      >
      > I know because we have a small scow made out of 3/8 plywood and one
      > made out of Luan. The thicker plywood was gifted to us so we used it
      > and was shocked how light the boat came out.
      >
      > The boat is not all that heavy because the plywood did not require as
      > much bracing as the thin Luan boats and my skills as a builder..
      >
      > The point is.. If the boat will be on a trailer it can be made a
      > little bit stronger and heavier.
      >
      > Also a sailboat has a middle of the road weight range. It can be made
      > to light for some conditions.
      >
      > It can be made to heavy for some conditions... My heavy PDR has enough
      > weight to carry it through a "Come about" while my light Baby Goose
      > has to be spun on the lee board by my weight being moved forward.
      >
      > Weight is like ladies. While they can be a bit over weight they can be
      > a bit under weight..
      >
      > My point being. I like good 3/8 plywood for boats on trailers. IF
      > someone goops a LOT of epoxy and glass on it the thing becomes a
      > "Tank".. If it's made light it can be excellent.
      >
      > Boat building is like cooking. I know someone who messed up a good
      > ham.. It was not the dead pigs fault..
      >
      > I do agree that light boats ares great if you need to carry the boat
      > or self launch without a trailer.
      >
      > For doing that I know of a man who uses 1/16th door skins and foam..
      > Great boats uses epoxy for his builds. It's not as cheap to build as
      > what I do but great boat.
      >
      > Skin on frame is another good way to build light. But floating in
      > gators, snags, roots under water junk, I want 3/8 plywood..
      >
      > Building boats is like choosing a woman.. We all think OURS is the
      > best. Smile, good day..Chief..
      >
      > On 12/23/13, Bill Howard <billh39@...> wrote:
      >> The key is weight vs. strength.
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      >> My 14 foot June Bug would be impossible to car-top with 3/8 inch ply.
      >>
      >> It would also be foolhardy to take her into any kind of chop.
      >>
      >> Here she is returning from a jaunt in the Chesapeake. Wind about 5 knots.
      >>
      >> Bill Howard,
      >> Nellysford
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      >> On Dec 23, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Chief Redelk <chiefredelk@...> wrote:
      >>
      >>> I made that discovery on small boats too..
      >>>
      >>> I am of the opinion that 3/8 plywood is MUCH stiffer than 1/4,
      >>> stronger and not a lot heavier..
      >>>
      >>> I find a full 3/8 plywood deck well supported works well..When I
      >>> design a deck that will be walked on I think of picture frames or 4
      >>> sides boxes 12 inches wide by 12 inches long by 3 inches deep..Bracing
      >>> like that well supported then covered with 3/8 ply is very strong..I
      >>> think that a brace every 12 inches is my standard.. Ribs once were set
      >>> that close but on some boats I open them up to 16 inches.. However,
      >>> Stitch and glue boats don't fit that rule..
      >>>
      >>> My next boat will have a 3/8 plywood bottom, 3/8 decks and maybe 3/8
      >>> all over.. BUT since it's gonna be a 12 feet long scow maybe I will
      >>> make the sides out of 1/4 ext ply...BUT the fact is I am not sure the
      >>> weight difference is worth all the trouble of using two thicknesses of
      >>> plywood..
      >>>
      >>> In my mind there are TWO boat options when it comes to materials.. ONE
      >>> for boats on trailers and the other ONE for boats designed to be
      >>> LIGHT.. Since I trailer all my boats, just a tad Heavier is not a
      >>> problem..
      >>>
      >>> I am not talking excessively Heavy boats or over built boats.. just
      >>> boats using 3/8 versus 1/4 plywood..1 inch by 1 inch bracing is good
      >>> IF it's not hanging in the air..Well braced boats need to be
      >>> overweight.. Good day, Chief..
      >>>
      >>> On 12/23/13, MylesJ. Swift <mswift@...> wrote:
      >>> > I ended up doubling the ΒΌ inch bottom and main deck on my Micro. With
      >>> > four
      >>> > 200pounds plus guys dancing on the deck it flexed too much for my
      >>> > comfort.
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      >>> >
      >>> > MylesJ
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