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  • bud e
    Mar 28, 2010
      Thanks very much for this post Susanne.

      --- On Sun, 3/28/10, Susanne@... <philbolger@...> wrote:

      From: Susanne@... <philbolger@...>
      Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger cruising trimaran?
      To: bolger@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 7:05 PM

      Then again, there is for instance Design #649 B-31 Schorpioen, all ply based, 32'7" length (31'6" for highway travel on trailer) x 20' beam or 8'6" folded x 1'/6'draft x 532sq.ft. on full-batten Cat-Rig x 2+2 berths.  Unorthodox, but client had an unusual wishlist.  Was written up in MAIB.  Gotta run with too much to do and not remotely up to 100%.  But things are getting better.  Will be back.
      Susanne Altenburger, Phil Bolger & Friends
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      Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 5:51 PM
      Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Bolger cruising trimaran?

      and don't forget Jim Brown's former partners Dick Newick and John Marples; and don't rule out Constant Camber as a building method.  Mason
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      Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:52 PM
      Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger cruising trimaran?

      I believe he did design a 35 footer...

      I would not touch any multihull he designed with a 10 foot pole. He just didn't get it, or alternatively was working in the dark zones. I mean there are things that multihulls can do that go largely unexplored. Both in terms of stuff one used to commonly see, out there, and stuff that is not commonly done. But in general I don't think he had an aptitude for it.

      If I was looking for an ocean capable catamaran that was easy to build, and possibly cheap, I would look at Oram, or Kelsall. Kelsall is a genius and while I tend not to be drawn to his stuff, I know a number of very dialed in people who went to one of his seminars on KISS and came away sold. Oram is probably the best current value guy for large cats. For trimarans. I would build anything Kurt Hughes designed, or Brown if speed and/or cost were an issue.

      Unfortunately with tris, nobody has really carried on the flame. There is an obvious need to get some decent boats in a simple format like stitch and glue, but nobody is doing it. The reason is that tris are largely considered obsolete for cruising (once you get over the folding/trilering sizes that Farrier does). Brown wise the Searunners are largely obsolete, and the beautiful constant camber boats kinda went down with the Dean Company. The Seaclippers make sense, but could also use some updating which probably won't happen under current conditions. One of the issues is that in the sizes people currently want in these boats some kind of core construction is really required. Plywood is no longer really practical under 30 feet. In NA there really isn't a solution to compare with Duflex down under.

      --- In bolger@yahoogroups. com, "jhess314" <j.hess@...> wrote:
      > Does anyone know if Bolger designed an ocean-capable cruising trimaran?
      > Thanks, John

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