48142Re: [bolger] Re: Chinese gaffer
- Feb 5, 2006Hi Don,
Thank you for such a detailed response, it was most informative.
As to my Cynthia J. Nothing much has happened in about four years due to
various changes in personal circumstances, starting with moving from the
house I was building it in. After treating all of the Kaihikatea and red
beech framing with clear metalex, I moved it into an open shed for storage,
with the help of an experienced rigger. Unfortunately when lifting it of the
back of a truck with a front end loader it fell from the height of about
eight feet, onto a hard gravel yard and cracked the bottom frame in the
bulkhead, at entrance to cuddy. After a couple of years and another move I
put it into an insulated shipping container. Currently I am in the process
of relocating to Dunedin, hopefully in the next two or three months, where I
intend on repairing the damage and finishing building her.
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> Subject: [bolger] Re: Chinese gaffer
> --- In email@example.com, stuart crawford <scrawford@...> wrote:
>> DonB or anyone else who has experience using the Chinese gaff rig on
>> All theory aside, how do you find the rig in practice? What
> conditions do
>> you find it most suitable for?
>> Stuart Crawford.
> Hi Stuart,
> How is your Cynthia J?
> The Navigator was designed by Bolger, so an Aussie Micro owner could
> convert his Micro into an ocean cruiser, hopping from port to port
> around Australia, which would require quite a seaworthy boat and rig.
> I don't know of any builder so far who has done more than daysailing
> or short cruises in sheltered waters. I have not been out in more than
> marginal reefing breezes. And the set of the sails on my website is a
> cringe. My excuse is, that it was the first sail, and rigging took an
> age, leaving little time to sail before the tide went out again.
> Sitting in mud for a day was not on my wishlist. But I do have some
> The rig was designed for reefing without the need to go outside, at
> sea. Really, it is normal jiffy reefing with the lines leading inside,
> with full length battens and jaws to help keep it all under control.
> Then mainsail sheetlets sheeted to the mizzen mast to sit the mainsail
> leech up for efficient windward sailing. And the rig is very competent
> for windward sailing, at least in light to moderate conditions.
> However it does have potential vulnerabilities in my opinion, in heavy
> adverse conditions. For example, turning from 'on the wind' to a broad
> reach or run, you have to remember to let go and reset the main leech
> sheetlets as well as the mainsheet. If you forgot to do so, and were
> hit by a strong gust,wild rolling and gear breakage would be a strong
> possibility. The jaws bolted to the mainsail luff could easily be
> broken, as could the battens.
> The rope in the rig is a nightmare until both masts and sails are
> erected and in place. What looks simple viewed on the sailplan is a
> cats cradle when the masts and sails are laid out on deck. It is so
> easy to get one wrong, around something else or hooked up as you lift
> the mast in place. Twice I have had to take the whole thing down again
> because of one small problem. Both masts and sails are interconnected
> with ropes, and EVERYTHING needs to be in place before anything can be
> erected. You need a Boeing 747 checklist!
> The ropes are also everywhere when you are not sailing. Once in place
> correctly however, everything looks after itself quite well when
> sailing and gybing, with the exception of extra watching and handling
> as said above. I did have one of the sheetlets hook around the aft
> corner of the cabin roof overhang, but luckily just while swinging on
> the mooring. If it happened in anger, perhaps the roof could be lifted!
> Bruce and Dereck will know better, but I would not like to trailer
> this boat, just for short sailing, because of the rig complexity. In
> fact I'm thinking I will try it without the connecting string.
> Basically, I think the rig is over complex for casual sailing, and
> possibly not that seamanlike for ocean work, as the owner of Alert
> found. The rig is great for someone who loves tinkering and playing
> about with setups and improvements. If I were starting over, Jason's
> overlarge balanced lug, or the chinese lug on the Birdwatcher featured
> in Duckworks magazine are better rigs for simple casual sailing. Big
> for speed, and much easier to reef as soon as needed. Combined with
> Jason's swing mast, a very sensible combo.
> I feel the Chinese Gaff rig is better in theory than in practice.
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