11076RE: [bobbinlace] RE: Square bobbins
- Dec 6, 2013Hello,
Normally I just read all the wonderful letters and take in the good advise that is given, but today I am snowed in and I would like to put in my two cents on square bobbins. I have been making lace now for about 15 years and I work with I guess square bobbins. They are sometimes called bed post bobbins. What I like about them they do not roll on my pillow and they do not have a spangle on them which makes it much easier to make a sewing as sometimes spangles can get tangled in a sewing. Happy Lacing to all.
On Fri, 12/6/13, Rene <reneastle@...> wrote:
Subject: RE: [bobbinlace] RE: Square bobbins
To: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com>
Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 5:46 AM
As a flemish lace maker , I cannot understand how one can
work with square bobbins. Nata 616 has a
we never use square bobbins . When using a gimp we
might consider it because it is feels different,
when working faster. But is not the right way to work.
A flat cushion is in fact also not for classic work as the
bobbins lay and do not hang. The bobbins need slicht
tension while rollling so one does not have to pull
too much ..
A flat cushion is sometimes used and can be
handy for contemporary work or to have one in
I once saw a German girl with a whole pillow of square
bobbins.. She did actually manage to work with
them and her work was nicely done. She did use
thick thread and pulles a lot.. but she was also
slow as she had to pick up every time the bobbins
and pulling for the right tension. .. That is not
exactly the way to make bobbinlace here.
Then I say .. better that then no lace at all !
Working with spangles is not easy and certainly not for
clunies because one then adapts a non regular way of
Midlands spangles are in fact not made to use for
Here when square bobbins arrived on the market we bought
them for collections. I never see them in use on a
pillow except a few years ago by that one German girl.
I say .. if you feel good using square bobbins .. just
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 12:57:28 -0800
Subject: Re: [bobbinlace] RE: Square bobbins
Midlands with their spangles can be a pain
when doing lots of clunies too.I do my clunies in the air
and not on the pillow. Ann Keller suggested I do that
when I couldn't make them on the pillow without them
looking like holly clunies.
I do not have any problems with the
rounded turns in the middle of the bobbins. Sometime I
will put a picture up on my blog and show you my square
bobbins in action.
Wind To Thy Wings,
New York, US of America
Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:08 PM
[bobbinlace] RE: Square bobbins
I have "international square Model 2" and
"large square" bobbins (the names on Holly van
Sciver's website: http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/3Bob_C.html).
What I've noticed is 1) square bobbins certainly
CAN roll and 2) the pretty, bumpy turnings on the large
square bobbins become less attractive when you're doing
lots of sewings :-) (I was doing a Russian braid lace
pattern where I basically had a sewing every 12
bobbins don't roll--the spangles prevent that. But
larger/more elaborate spangles are not easy to deal with
when doing sewings.
bobbins sound like an interesting concept, but I'm
wondering how they would work in practice. If you wind
bobbins by hand, you usually roll the bobbin in your fingers
(wrapping the thread around the neck of a stationary bobbin
seems to add (or subtract) more twist from the thread than
turning the bobbin either by hand or with a bobbin winder).
It wouldn't be comfortable to try to roll
something with corners in your fingers, and the kind of
winders I'm familiar with wouldn't hold a flat
object. Flat objects also tend to be a little harder to pick
up (think of picking up a key or coin vs. a pen or lace
lacemakers in my area (northern New Jersey, USA) tend to use
continental bobbins, and I've noticed that the
more-experienced people seem to pick up and hold the
bobbins, rolling them between their fingers to make some
stitches, and apparently tensioning by pulling against the
widened ends of the bobbins. This kind of manipulation
might not be possible with flat bobbins.
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