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  • Douglas Pollard
    Not being a member of the timber industry or the Us Forestry service I don t get a mailbox full of literature on wood or timber products daily. I certainly
    Message 1 of 33 , Jun 1, 2009
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      Not being a member of the timber industry or the Us Forestry service
      I don't get a mailbox full of literature on wood or timber products
      daily. I certainly can't speak for John Welsfords part of the world. I
      have lived around the paper mill industry and have relatives who are
      forest rangers and have heard their frustration over forest timber. I
      believe I do have a small understanding of an impending problem.
      Here in Virginia it takes about 30 years to grow pulpwood for paper
      along the coast. Up here in the Shenandoah valley it takes a good deal
      We have a law here that if you have forest land and you cut the
      timber you have to replant it in Bull pine. This wood grows fast but
      over most of the state it never becomes good boat lumber. East of
      Richmond, Baltimore and Washington DC it can grow to an age and size
      that it becomes good enough for work boats, but almost never does
      because of the paper industry.
      Hunt clubs have to twist and turn in red tape when the cut their
      land to have the young forest wanted for wild life to grow. Most wild
      life does not grow in thick pine forests it takes hard wood and brush
      for healthy deer, ground birds, bear and other prized huntable animals.
      The Government has managed the wild life the same way and deer dropped
      by the millions in west Virgina a couple of years ago.
      Up here in the mountains a large part of what used to be timber
      trees are on National forest land. Even more land is held as national
      parks in the west. This year the Government has taken millions more
      acres into the national park service.
      Most of this acreage has been planted in pine as per the law. The
      forestry service is at odds with the Park services over the harvesting
      of timber. The tree huggers do not want any trees cut at all so it is
      like pulling teeth to get the forests thinned. We in this country have
      millions more trees than was here in the early years and likely half of
      them need to be cut for the health of the forests.
      The whole state of Virginia is on huge tree farm for pulpwood and
      since it's all one species the Beetles are eating it. So we now live in
      beetle farm. The Chesapeake foundation is having hissy fits because we
      are pouring millions of gallons of insecticides on the piny woods. There
      are people that think that this is the cause of the weakening and dying
      of the oyster beds and miles of sea grass that was once in the Bay.
      I saw pictures on TV the other day where in the west near Lake Tahoe
      there are millions of acres of dead pines killed by beetles and worms
      and the park service will not allow timber men in to cut it. As a
      result the whole thing is is one huge Forrest of kindling wood waiting
      to burst into flame.
      Tree farming is turning into a disaster here. When you plant a
      million trees all close to gether it is pretty likely a disease or
      infestation will attact them and spread almost pandemic like. In the
      United States so much of the control of these forest has come under
      federal government so there has become less and less diversity of tree
      Here in the south east saw mills and hardwood trees are becoming
      more and more scarce. Having a nation of overpopulation of a small
      number of species is like have 50,000 chickens in one coupe one hint of
      bird flue and they all die.
      The lumber and pulp industry snuggled up close to government to
      help its cause until now it has been swallowed by government. Unlike
      the Auto, banking and finance business that has been absorbed by the
      Feds the timber industry has been leaned on by Uncle Sam until it is
      almost extinct and it is only going to get worse. As the timber
      industry goes so goes the rest of capitalism I believe.
      John, you folks in your part of the world had better watch your
      Governments close. England and Europe have embraced socialism and we in
      the the U.S. are presently doing the same. As government absorbs these
      industries and they wither on the vine. This at a time when China is
      growing along with many other eastern nations and the demand for wood is
      increasing a thousand fold in the not to distant future. As demand goes
      up so goes prices if the supply cannot keep up.
      As I said I am basing this argument on what I am seeing here. I
      hope your governments there are run more wisely by you folks than ours
      is by us.
      I surely hope there is always be cheap plywood. What I have seen
      though has been ever cheaper plywood of decreasing quality. Good high
      grade marine plywood also lost quality. Not in the gluing, but in the
      wood itself and the price has gotten higher.
      I am still of the opinion we should be looking for alternitives
      to plywood. Not just because I think It might become unavailable but
      because we have been building boats from it for about 70 years now and
      it is now an old building material. We have done a lot with it and a
      new excitement in boat building would be a good thing. I think the only
      thing that can kill boat building is boredom or the government taking
      control of it as it seems to have in Europe. If you look around many
      people are building boats that are not the ideal size but are a size
      that slides under the laws of Government regulation. What??
      John I think your optimistic view for plywood does not take
      into account the foolishness of political government.
      I know this is alarmist, but if it's only ten percent correct
      it is still a thing we ought to be thinking about.
    • Julian Fouser
      ... Yes, I would agree with you there . J
      Message 33 of 33 , Jun 6, 2009
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        --- In boatdesign@yahoogroups.com, "Jon & Wanda(Tink)" <windyjon@...> wrote:
        > I already did let it go but it is not sinking in very well must be realy dense
        > Jon

        Yes, I would agree with you there .

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