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    Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hangh kitaan thei lo (Romans 8: 29-30)   Tatkhiatna pen ih ngah khit tehh kitaan thei nawn lo hi. Thu khat ah, tatkhiatna
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      Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hangh kitaan thei lo (Romans 8: 29-30)

       

      Tatkhiatna pen ih ngah khit tehh kitaan thei nawn lo hi. Thu khat ah, tatkhiatna ngah takpi maw ngahtakpi lo cih bel kidot huai pen hi. Tua ih kikup nop thu pen tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh kitaan thei maw cih thu hi lo zaw-in, tatkhiatna kingah lo thei cih hi zaw hi. Khat veivei mihing te thu kikumkum pong mawk na pi-in a phi (the answer to the question) ah ih kibat lohna pen dotna maan lo (wrong question) hang na hi gige thei hi. Tua ahih manin a masa pen in dotna maan (right question) a dong thei ih hih masak ding zong thupi hi.

      Tua ih kikup nop pen Tatkhiatna a ngah lo te’n bang hang ngah lo? Tatkhiatna a ngah te in koici bang in ngah cih thu hi zaw hi. Thuma (before the event) ii thu tawh kipat ding hi zaw hi. Not after the event. Tatkhiatna, gupkhiatna ngah khit tehh taan kik thei maw cih pen (un qualified question) ahi hi. It is still a question. But the question itself is unqualified for its answer.

      Ezekiel 33:11-15 le Matt 23: 37na te pawl pen Tatkhiatna ngah theihna ding aa, kisik kikna Pasian in a kalhna hi. (This text is for unbelievers). A piangthak khin mite tungah hah genna hi lo zaw hi. Tatkhiat gupkhiat ngah khit ciang aa ding thu a genna hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ma aa mimawh pa/nu in a mawhna a kisik kei leh ngah lo ding ahihna tona challenge na hi zaw hi. Tatkhiatna na ngah khit ciang aa tona challenge na hi lo zaw hi. Kipia khin ngah khin aa sut kik aa taan sak kik cih peuh mah pen Pasian’ nasep hi thei lo hi. Ginat loh vai lua mahmah hi. Ih theih dingah Christ effectual calling cih khawng thupi hi. Romans 8: 30na ah “whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified” na ci ngiat hi. Romans 9: 11na ah God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of his call na ci hi. Tatkhiatna pen na kipatcil in ngah takpi maw ngahtak pi lo cih tawh kidot huai zaw hi. Kuate in tatkhiatna taan thei hiam cih leh  a um lo a saang lote in taan thei bek-a a um a saang te in taan cih bang om thei lo zaw-in saangin ngah hi cih thu hi zaw hi. A taktak in ci rehang tatkhiatna taan cih taktak zong kua in thei ih hiam? Pasian bekin thei hi. Ahih hangh ih theih dingah Khrih in muibun effective aa a sap mite piangthak (true converted) takpi ding aa, tua kisikna maan tawh pianthakna (conversion with true repentance) ahih nak lelah taan kik cih bang om thei lo hi. Ih piaksa sut kik kei peuh rehang ih piak pa in ngah suak hamtang hi. Tua ahih manin Pasian in ong piaksa ong sut kik ngei lo pa hi. Ih theih dingah Pasian in a sap loh mi-in um lungdamna thu hong um thei thei lo ding uh hi. Philippian 2: 13na for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure na ci hi. A nuai ah ih kikup ding pen piaksa suh kikna taan kikna vai hi lo zawin, kua te in tua a kipia letsong ngah thei aa, kua te in ngah lo thei hiam? Cih hi zaw hi. Hong kipia naakhat saang kei lecin na ngah ding a taan khol khin na hi ta hi. A taan kik ih cih te zong a kipat aa a lungsim le kha tawh sang tak pi lo cihna hi. Na keel luphum hong kidawk ve leh! A saang taktak lo na hihna hong ki dawk ve leh cih ding hi zaw hi. Tua pen a ngah takpisa a taan cih ding hi lo zaw-a, a tung a kipat aa a ngah takpi a saang tak pi lo na hi ve leh cih ding hi zaw hi. Ka saang ka ngah na cih pong mawk hangin na zuaupi ahi ve leh. Singkung a gah in kithei ih cihcih tua daan aive cih ding hi.. Pasian in thu-ummite’ tatkhiatna ong kep cing sakna thu-ummite ii thuakzawhna, ih khona le cihtakna ah kilang hi. God’s preservation is evidenced in true believers’ perseverance.

      John 10: 26, 27na aa, “…note pen keima tuu hilo na hih manun Khrih ka hih lam na hong um kei uh hi. Keima tuute in ka aw za-in thei uh ahih manin kei hong zui uh hi” a cihna ah, Jesuh tuu te na hi uh leh, um ding uh hi. Banghang hiam cih leh upna pen Khrih’ tuu hihna ii gah ahi hi. Faith is one of their marks. Actually, not being Christ’s sheep was not the Cause of the unbelief of the Jews, but their unbelief was the evidence that they were not Christ’s sheep.

       

      Upna nangawn ei aa hi lo (faith itself is the gift of God…Eph. 2: 8)

      Faith is objective. Not subjective. Upna cih pen mimawh pa’ pua lam pan aa a sung lamah kipia thu hi zaw hi. Ama sung lam pan aa kipan tawm hi lo zaw hi. A tom in gen rehang a um mite pen amau le amau hoihna tawh a um thei hi lo-in, a um lo mite ahih leh amau le amau kibawl tawm ahi hi. (Akilamdanna na theih zawh nang na hanciam in). Mangpau in tom gen mahmah rehang (election and reprobate).Upna ih cih pen Pasian Kha Siangtho’ ong sepsak hi. Zechariah 4: 6 “It is not by might or by power, but by my Spirit”…Ama Kha tha bekmah tawh hi hang. John 1: 12, 13na ah “Tua bangin Pasian tate suahna pen leitung ngeina nute pate sung panin suahna tawhh hi lo-in Pasian sung panin suahna ahi hi…nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God ci hi. Um cih pen sepna hi lo hi. Na up ding pen ahi ding mah ahi hi. Ahi ding mah ahi naa te pan-a pua pialna in leitungah problem piangsak hi. Ih Problem pen mawhna (sin) hi. Ih mawhna pan’n ih kisik kik ciangh in zong a zian a ngah kikpan hi hangh. Romans 4: 4ff.

      Ephesians 2:8-10na ah For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

      Theih pak ding ah, tatkhiatna pen sepna tawh hi lo hi. Zong kitaan thei lo hi ih cih ciangh ut bangbang aa gamta ding cih nopna hi lo hi. Mihing te pen tatkhiat ngah tawh ngah lo tawh, tatkhiat ngah khin tawh ngah nai lo tawh ih vek aa, kuamah hoih zo tuan vet lo ih hih manin, hoihna dikna le hahkatna tawh tatkhiatna kingah in tatkhiatna kitaan hi cih thu a maan lohna thu LST in a gen nuam ahi zaw hi. Tua hangin Upna bek tawh hi zaw hi a ci ih hi hi. Tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh kingah lo-in hahkat lohna tawh zong kitaan tuan lo hi. Kam dang khatin gen rehang tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh zong kingah beh tuan lo hi. Upna nangawn Pasian letsong hi lai hi a cihna thu a kithei sak nuam ih hi. Na telsiam dingin ong lamen ingh.

       

      CALVINSIM AND ARMINIANSIM THU TAWM

      TULIP a kici John Calvin in Jacob Arminius le a pawl te ii LST upna laigil pi pan aa paikhialhna Remonstrain tungtaang aa Jocob Arminius ii 1610 kum aa, his five points of doctrine pen John Calvin in 1619 aa Synot of Dot pan aa LST based aa Jacob Arminius ii five points a dawnna the five points of Calvin pen TULIP kici hi.

      1. T= Total depravity (mihing khempeuh sia khin. Mawh khin)
      2. U= Unconditional election (hoihna, dikna le sepna condition tungtawn hilo. A kiteel mite kua te cih eite in thei lo ihih manin tua ih theih kholh loh Pasian bekin a theih a teelsa mite tungah lungdamna thu gen ding ih tavuan)
      3. L= Limited atonement (or particular atonement)—Deihna nei sihna (A telsa mite aa ding bek aa Jesuh singlamteh tungah si cihna. Kamdang khat in gen rehang a ummite le a hong um lai ding mite Pasian teel te na hi gige pah)
      4. I= Irresistible grace  (Pasian’ hehpihna pen kinolh thei lo. Pasian’ hehpihna pen nang hanciam zawh thu tawh na ngah hi lo cihna)
      5. P= Perseverance of the saints (Thu ummite’ khona. A tawp dong cihtaakna cih ding hi. God preservation is evidenced in the believers’ perseverance. But believer’s perseverance is not the cause for preservation/ salvation) cih ding hi.

      Hi thu pan-a, Calvinism le Arminian cih thu hong piang hi.

      Calvin doctrine le Arminius doctrine pen number 3thumna le 4lina pan kithu kimlo pha diak hi. Arminius ii Unlimited atonement (general atonement) Calvin in Biblical sa lo ahih manin Limited atonement (particular atonement kammal) tawh dawng hi

      Arminius ii Resistible grace pen biblical sa lo ahih manin Calvin in Irresistible grace cih kammal tawh na dawng hi. Five points of Calvin pen five points of Arminius tungah dawnna hi aa, five points of Calvinist pen five points of Arminius om kei leh a om lo ding ahi hi. Arminius in numbat thumna tungtawnin bang gen hiam cih leh Jesuh ong sihna pen mi khempeuh aa ding hi cih daan hi. Salvation made possible. Salvation is not certain cih hi pha diak hi. God has done his part. Now is your turn cih peuh hi ziauziau hi. Tatkhiatna pen mihing tungah kinga zaw in Pasian tungah kinga lo zaw hi ci hi. Tua ciangh numbat lina tungtawn aa Arminius genna ah hehpihna pen Pasian in by force tawh ong pia lo hi eimau ih san leh bek kingah hi ci. Hih Ariminian teachings pen Pelagianism a kici Nicene Creed ih cih te ii heresy ci aa a ki condemned upna pan aa hong piang khia hi. Buddhism teaching mah bang aa human effort tawh salvation kingah cih daan hi mawk hi. LST sungah Pasian in salvation belongs to God ci hi. John 2: 9; Rev 7: 10 and many others verses in the bible. LST ih et tehh Pasian in active tak aa nang le kei salvation ding a sepna kilang mahmah hi. Beyond our understanding the Holy Spirit is working in us from the beginning to the end. Salvation pen eimau hanciamna tawh ngah in eimau perfect lohna genbaan lohna tawh kitaan kik thei cih LST in gen hi leh kuamah vantung gam tung lo ding hi hang. Mihing te pen ih sih ma-dong mawhna tawh kipeng kua mah om zo lo ding hi hangh. You will die sinning. Only the blood of Jesus will save you. Nothing but the blood of Jesus! Faith alone is our victory not by your perfection.

       

      Special grace and common grace

      Pasian hehpihna pen a teel mite bekin nolh kik zawh loh-in ngah ding hi. Tua pen special grace kici hi. Common grace pen thu umlo mite in zong ngah hi. Leitung hauhna, nitang le guah tui te zong ih ngah khawm hi. 2 Thessalonians 2: 13, 14na ah Paul in Pasian in note hong teel ahih manin lungdam na ka ko tawntung hi ci hi. God chooses you from the beginning for your salvation. Election granted salvation. Pasian in Pharoh lungtang ka khauhsak hi ci hi. Ahih hangin a lungtang a khauhsak bek hi a, mawhna a bawlsak pen Pasian hi lo hi. God’s hardening the heart doesn’t mean he cause them to sin. Hoihna peuh mah Pasian hang hi-a, siatna peuhmah nang hang hi. In the case of good God is directing. But in the case of evil God is over-ruling. God actually takes the initiative. God plans and God accomplishes. Election granted our repentance and salvation. And election leads to holiness… Eph. 1. But holiness is not the cause that saves you.

      Ahih hangin salvation pen eimau ih saan leh ngah bekin eimau mah in ih khahsuah leh kitaan kik thei a cite in “tua bang ahih leh teltuamna ih cih in Pasian mi deidan pa suah hi ci uh hi.” Hi te pen Arminian te kici hi. Human free will tawh salvation kingah ci hi. A nu a pa a u anau aading thungetsak leh vantung gam tung ding ci uh hi. Nget zawh thu tawh kingah hi cih bul phuh hi. Tua ahih manin thu a nget uh tehh Topa aw ka pa ong tatkhiat sak in cih daan hi pah hi. Tua leh Pasian in tua Arminian pa kiangah tua na thungetsak na pa zong free will khensatna pia ka hih manin ama khensat bang hi zaw henla, nang thu ngetsakna tawh hi kei zaw hen. Amah zong nang mah bangin free will ka pia khin hi ci zeel ding hi. Hyper Calvinist ih cih te leuleu in ei nget thu tawh salvation kingah hi lo ahih tehh thunget kul vet kei. Pasian thu zong taangko kul vet kei ci zel hi. Hi nih kikaal ah reformation kisam hi. Thu nget ding hi-a, human free will/ human agency cihte in zong a ma dinmun maan right place nei hi. Arminian te in Pasian teeltuamna le it tuamna thu nial uh hi. A taktak in ci rehang “man in sin refuses to repent, to believe in Jesus”. Actually no one should be saved. We all are deserved for condemnation. The fact is without election no one will be saved. Election should not be negative. Ataktak in ci rehang mihing te in ei le ei tawh a kisik kik thei lo a um thei lo hell lam zuan tum khin ih hi hi. Ahi zongin mawh nei mi nang le kei tua Pasian teeltuamna it tuamna hangin hong kitan khia khin hi. Amen!

      Like Wesley you may deny election on your head but in your heart you believe election. Na lu in teeltuamna a nial hangin na lungtangin um veve ding hi.

       

      Lei pian ma pek aa hong  kiteel maw? Favoritism?

      Calvinist ih cih te in Pasian in teel khol hi. Sehh khol hi. It khol hi. Pasian in lei pian ma pekin hong teel khin hi ci uh…Ephessians 1: 4ff. God loved beforehand. God foreknew Pasian in ma theih hi ci uh. Pasian in sem masa den ci uh. God always takes the initiative of all ci uh. Tua ahih manin Pasian teelsa mite beek in hong um thei ding ci uh. Hi pen election prior to faith kici hi. Arminian te in tua pen Pasian thumaan lo suah uh tehh. Pasian in tua bangin miteel khol leh a teel te bekin um leh taza lo hi legitimate lo hi ci uh. A um thei te bek a teel ding hi ci uh. Arminian te genna ah Pasian in a teel ma pekin kua te in upna na nei uh cih na ma theih khol ci uh. Hi pen Faith prior to God’s election kici hi. Arminian te genna ah upna ih neih leh bek Pasian in hong teel hi ci uh. Tua mi nu mi pa in upna nei a hih manin um ding hi cih thu Pasian in ana ma theih hi bek hi ci.  Prior to election, God has foreseen faith in those who will believe prior to election cih daan hi. Hi lai mun ah Calvinist te leuleu in Pasian in tua upna amah le amah aa a nei thei tawm te bek teel ahih leh upna a nei lo te teel lo ahih manin taza lo hi legitimate lo hi ci. Pasian pen condition sepna bawlna tungah kinga in a hoih te teel in a hoih lo te a teel lo hi mawk hi ci.  Pasian guat loh in kuamah in Pasian tawh kilem kik theihna ding upna nei lai zang lo hi ci uh. Tua ahih manin upna sangin teeltuamna masa zaw hi. Pasian kiang lam pan kipan zaw-in mihing lampan eimau neih tawm tawh kipat theih bangmah om ngei lo hi. Banghang hiam cih leh piansak te ih hi hi. Hi Armnians te gen daan pen favoratism angvantuam neihna kici zaw hi ci uh. Favoratism cihteh Pasian in angvan tuam nei sak uh tehh kicih tuakna hi. Actually, if someone (an Arminian) has faith whom God saw as if he has faith prior to God’s election, and if that is the reason chosen by God is favoritism.

       

      Romans 8: 29-30na

      Pasian’ Tapa mi khempeuh lakah a upa pen a suah theihna dingin Pasian in a tel kholhsa mite, a Tapa tawh a kibang dingin a sehsa ahi hi. Tua ahih manin ama sap mite a sehsa hi a, ama sap mite amah tawh a kipawlin bawl a, amah tawh a kipawl-a a bawl mite ama minthan’na zong a hawm hi. Ephessians 1: 4na ah “Ama mai ah eite pen pauban’na a nei lo, mi siangthote ahi ding le Khrih hangin ama mite ahi dingin leitung a pian’ ma pek nangawnin Pasian in a hong telsa ih hi hi” na ci hi. Apat pan a tawp dong a nasep a zo tiuteu Pasian ih biak khak manin ki paak mahmah hangh. Hih LST munin Pasian theihkholna telkholna le sehkholna thu kician tak in gen hi. Nang le nang question na kidongdong lecin Pasian’ tung vive tu kik ding hi. Pasian pen a beisa bek ah nasem pa hi lo hi. Abeisa, tuhun le hong tung ding hun khempeuh ah nasem pa hi. Salvation has a past reference (Eph 2: 8) and is a present experience (1 Cor 1: 18) and is a future hope (Romans 5: 9). Hong kitatkhiatna thu na theih khiat, na experience khiat ciangin nang sep hi lo-in nang tungah hong kisem a thei khia a phawk khia na hi lel hi. Na ci hong kimeek sak leh ka cih hong kimeek hi cih na up loh a phamawh ahi hi. Tatkhiatna kitel khia ing cih zong tua daan aa kiphawkna na hi bek lel hi. Na sepna tawh tatkhiatna a ngah na hi peuh mah kei hi. Na tung aa hong kisem na up loh a phamawh na upna tawh tatkhiatna a ngah na hi hi. Tua bangin nang tungah ong kisep ciangin na um thei hi. The wonderful work of God in the Lord Jesus preceded all of our experience (2Cor 5: 17-19).

      Pasian in a sehsa mite a kitatkhiat theihna dingin lampi honkhiat sakin sam-a, tua asapsa mite a Tapa’ sisan tawh tankhia a, tua atatsa mite khempeuh zong aminthan pih lai ding hi. Ih theih dingah tatsa mite pen hong ki gupgup laitak hi. They are being sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Ih theih lai dingah tatkhiatna den lam ciangh zong hong ngah lai ding om hi. A ngah lai ding tu laitak a ngah nai lo deuh zong om zihziah lai hi. Naungek zong a suak nai lo le a suaksa a om mah bang ahi hi. Tua ahih manin hih tatkhiatna pen kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cihna ah, dotna question ih kidop mahmah kisam hi. Tatkhiatna pen atung a kipat thu tawh kisai hi. A kipat aa na ngah takpi le na ngah takpi loh thu tawh kisai zaw hi. Na ngah takpi leh taan cih bang om nawn lo hi. Na ngah takpi hiam cih thupi zaw hi. Saul te Judas te pen a pat cil lim aa a maan lo a mau le amau ki khem te na hi uh hi. True repentance true conversion ahih nak leh atawp dong kho ding hi. A tawp dong a kho kei leh a patna pen true repentance true conversion tawh kipan lo cihna hi. A tawp dong khona pen a kipatna a maanna hang na hi zaw hi. Justification and sanctification hi nih pen Christian te in a Christian nuntaakna ah a tuak loh uh a phamawh thu nih hi. Sanctification is the fruit of justification not vice versa. Ih Christian nisim nuntaakna ah Kha Siangtho tha bek tawh ih kalsuan hi. Gup mi hihna pen tatkhiatna ii gah ahi hi. Tatsa mite a nisim nuntakna ah a gamtatna uh a kipuah phatphat laitak uh ahi hi. Ahi zongin tua gamtat kipuah phatna pen tatkhiat ngahna hi lo hi. Gamtatna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo hi. Ih gamtatna in tatkhiatna ngah mi ih hihna a kilang sak hi zaw hi. Tatkhiat ngah khit tehh ki perfect ki genbaang lo pah ding cihna zong hi lo hi. The more you feel guilt you are the more becoming holier. Don’t try to take baptism again. Na mawhna pan siangthona lamah na kah toh simin tui kiphum kik ding hi lo hi. Mihing te pen a mawh pi mah aa kisi lai ding hi. Tatkhiatna ii gah ahi gupkhiatna ih khah suah leh kitaan kik ding cih a thumaan ahih mawk leh mi khempeuh hell tung mang ding hi. Pasian na sem lian Moses David cih te zong a hun nunung ta uh ciangh puk uh hi. Nang zong na hun nunung lamah puk beh lai ding hiteh. Ahi zongin tua na pukna tawh vangam na taan kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin kuamah perfection ih cih genbanlohna tawh vangtung gam kitung lo ding hi. A gen bangpipi mah in Topa’ ong tatsa ih hi hi. Praise the Lord! Ahi zongin kuamah perfect lo cih pen ih paulap ding hi lo zel hi. Tatsa mite pen ih cihtakna ih gamtat hoihna te Topa aa ding aa ih faithful na te tawh kituakin letsong (rewards) hong kipia lai ding hi. So be faithful. Tua ih san ding letsong te pen hotkhiatna, tatkhiatna le gupkhiatna hong pia vangam hong tun the Cause a bulpi pen hi lo zel hi. Once save always save cih pen a thumaan hi. Jesuh in ka Pa in kei hong piak tuute kuamah in ka khut sung pan la khia zo lo ding ci hi. A thupoi ah mipoi pawl khat in tua Once save always save pen olzat in kimawlna bangin a zat uh te thu ummite linglawng lungka sak uh hi. Linglawng lungkaat ding hi zenzen lo hi. Tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh taan kik nawn lo cih kammal once save always save pen thu umlo mite in zong pheng gen ziau thei mah hi. A gen thu uh maan aa, a hih hang amau tungah piang lo kha ding hi. Kam in ih zuih zawh loh pih thu zong thukimin pau thei hi. Ahih hang a kipau khia thu pen a thumaan na hi lel hi.

       

      Piakna le Saanna gentehna

      Gentehna minthang mahmah khat. Mi thum om dingin tua te’ lakah lingmaw (oranges) pum thum kipia ding. Nih te gel in saangin a khat pa in sang lo la lo ahih manin ngah lo hi. Tua mah bangin tatkhiatna zong a saang te bekin  ngah in a saang lo te in ngah lo hi cih thu ahi hi. Hi lai mun ah qualified question khat kidong thei hi. Tua mite lakah tua lingmaw a sang lo pa pen liiphiat ih cih khut zaw cidam lo khat ahih man-a sang lo na hi leh e? Tua khut zaw pa in tua lingmaw a kipiak hang saang thei lo ding hi. Tua khut zaw cidam lo pa pen nang le kei ih hihi. Mi mawh ih hi khin hi. Corruption-Original sin, Guilt imputed sin cih te hangin mihing te a si ih hi hi. Sing hiang khat a kung tung pan na lak khiat cil-in a hing lai mah bang lel hi. Ahih hangin a kungpi tawh kikhen khia khin ahih manin tua singhiang pen a hing a bat sesat laipong hangin a sikhin ahi hi. Nang le kei tua bang dinmun ah ih om hi. Hih theihna bang mah ih nei kei hi. A si pi ih hi hi. Lingmaw a saang thei lo khut zaw pa tawh ih kibang hi. Pasian tawh a kikhen khin te ih hi hi. Tua ahih manin Jesuh in Matthew 9: 12, 13na ah “Cidam te in syavuan kisam lo uh a, cina mite bek in kisam uh hi…Mite in a zahtak mi hoihte a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi kei a, mite in a pampaih mite a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi hi,” a ci hi. Jesuh pen tua lingmaw a sang thei mi nih te’ aading aa ong pai hi lo zaw in tua lingmaw a sang thei lo cidam lopa khut zaw pa mawhna sungah a si cip nang le kei aa ding aa ong pai hi zaw hi. Jesuh in ong sepsak khin hi. It is finished! (John 19: 30). Ei thu-mu mite tatkhiat ngah kician mite pen hong kihon khia khin hong kitan khia khin hong kigupgup laitak hong kisian suahsuah laitak hi. I have been saved for justification and have been justified and am being sanctified and will be glorified yet. In other word, I have been saved and am being saved and will be saved yet. Tatkhiatna ka ngah theihna dingin Pasian in ka nun lui Egypt gam pan lampi hong sial pih in san tuipi na ngawn kantan in hong hon khia aa, a tawpna ah a Tapa Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia in tu laitakin a hong sawlpa Kha Siangtho in ong sian suahsuah laitak a ong gupgup laitak ka hi hi.

       

      Thum lakah mihing te’ aading aa a thupi pen

       Thum gawm Pasian sungah Tapa kilaitaat. Christ center saving grace. Thum aa kikhen hun (time) past+present+future sungah tuhun (the present time) ki laitaat. Hotkhiatna (Salvation plan by God the Father), Tatkhiatna (Justification/ Redemption accomplished by God the Son) le Gupkhiatna (Santification renew or awakening or sealed or adopted or led or guide or illumine or regenerated by the Holy Spirit) (hih the three components of saving event in Zolai contact) ah Tatkhiatna kilaaitaat hi. OT Egypt gam pan san tuipi kantan aa hotkhiatna in NT Topa Jesuh tatkhiatna kawk bek hi. Tu hun Kha Siangtho hun gupkhiatna nasepna ih cih te in zong Tapa tatkhiatna a siksan kei leh gupkhiatna man lo ahi hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ih hih lam ih kitel ding ih ngah ding hun pen zing ciang ci se ken ze kai niteh. The present time is the most important. Tu ni tu hun ding hi. Pilna (knowledge), Ciimna(Wisdom) le Siamna (Giftedness) hi thum lakah Ciimna (Wisdom) mah thupi pen. Inn (house), Baangkua (home) le innkuan (family) hi thum sungah baangkua (home) mah thupi pen hi.

      Pasian’ ciimna in eite tu hun tu mahmahin hong tankhia-in vantung baangkua pi ah hong tun pih thei hi. Cihnopna ah a thum in a thupi tek ahih hangin a laimu a mu zo taktak ding mi kikhaat mahmah hi cih a gen nuam ih hi hi.

       

      Hotkhiatna, Tatkhiatna le Gupkhiatna

      Zomi te in hi kammal thum te eimau kammal ahih lam ih phawk phat ding kisam hi. Honkhia cih tehh mi khat peuhpeuh a tawp dong tavuan (mawhpuak) na laak sak lohh ding hang honkhia pak thei hi tehh. Gumkhia cih tehh nang ta nang nau ahih nak leh gum hamtang  cihna hi lel hi. Tankhia cih kammal pen honkhia cih le gumkhia cih sangin a thu thuk zawkna a mui but zawkna Zomi Zolai siam te in ih thei sa hi pah hi. Tankhia cih pen ama nuntaakna mahmah tawh tankhia a sisan tawh ong tankhia cihna hi. Luang sawng hi. Topa Jesuh in eite ong tankhia hi. Hih tatkhiatna laigil thu pen LST Romans sungah lim gen mahmah hi. Tua pen Justification by faith cih thu ahi hi. Hih Justification by faith pen redemption zong kici thei ding hi. Salvation pen hotkhiatna hi-a, biakna dang te in zong salvation sense nei uh hi. Ei Christian te salvation a tumdang sak pen the Justification by Faith ahi hi. Romans 1: 17na ah “The righteous/ just shall live by faith” na ci ngeu hi. Pasian’ mai ah dik ih tan theihna pen upna hang bek tawh ahi hi.

      Tatkhiatna kihel lo hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna nam ahi Buhhism hotkhiatna, Hinduism le Muslim hotkhiatna te in a si cih ding hi. Christian te in zong hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna ih gengen hangin Jesuh ong tatkhiatna ahi Justification by Grace through faith Alone pen a kihel kei leh a si pi ahi hi. Tatkhiatna thu ah hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna kihel hamtang aa, gupkhiatna le hotkhiatna ih cih sungah tatkhiatna kihel lo gige thei hi. Baptists believe Justifiction is the only cause of our sancitfication not vice virsa. But RCs believe sanctification in the reason you will be justified. Justification le sanctification thu a tel te in telsiam pah ding hi. Ei Zopau in Justification pen tatkhiatna hi. Sanctification pen gupkhiatna hi. Hi munah hih thu nih ii thu ih ki tam kup man kei ding hi. Pasian’s sap mite bek kitankhia aa (John 6: 44, 45 No one can come to Me unless he Father who sent Me draws him), tua a kitankhia mite Kha Siangtho nasepna tawh a nisim nuntaakna tung tawnin kigumkhia kisian suah ki sanctified aa, ahi zongin tua hong ki sanctified siansuah gupkhiatna pen tatkhiatna a hong ngahsak thumasa pen hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna (justification) precedes gupkhiatna (sanctification). Gupkhiatna ih cih tua sanctification pen eimau thu ummi pa/nu le Kha Siangtho kipawl khawm aa sepna kici thei hi. Ahih hangin tua siansuahna ah khanna (growth) pen gumpa Kha Siangtho nasep mah hi kik zel in mihing sepna hang hi lo lai hi.

       

      Upna le Tatkhiatna

      Romans 5: 10na ah” Pasian tawh eite ih kilang neih lai takin ama Tapa sihna hangin amah tawh hong kilemsak ahih leh tu-in Pasian tawh kipawl khinta ihih manin Khrih’ nuntaakna in eite bangzahin hong honkhia zo zaw kan ding ahi hiam? Cihnopna ah Jesuh Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia khin  ahih leh tatsa mite ih puk zel laina pan-in hong kihon khia lua lai ding cihna kilang pah hi. Pasian in ka mite a puk hangin ka phong kik ding hi ci hi. In English to understand this text: believing does not save me—I simply realize believing saves me. (I am not saved by believing—I simply realize I am saved by believing. And it is not repentance that saves me—repentance is only the sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus. Romans 4: 4na ah “ Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And not the one who does not work but trust him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness. Cihnopna ah: ahi ding bang aa ih nuntaakna pen sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi ding bang aa nuntaak lohna pen sepna hi se hi. Tatkhiatna ih ngahna dingin mihing na hoih kisem thei lo-a, ahi zongin tatkhiatna ngah lohna dingin na hoih lo kisem thei se hi. Mihing te sepna in sihna piang sak thei bek hi. Pasian in an ne ding aa a nungta ding aa hong bawl kimlai an ni 40 ne kei lecin na si ding hi. Ne kei lecin si ding. Ne lecin si lo ding cihna ah, ahi ding bang aa nuntaakna pen ahi ding mah ahih manin sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi ding thu a hi lo na suah citciat leh tua pen out of tune, out of order ahih manin tua pen nang ma mawh puak sepna hi ta hi. Pasian in Khrih ong tatkhiatna ih up ding ong kalhna pen a hi ding mah ahih manin ka upna zong sepna hi ven cih theih ding hi lo hi. Na upna na ngawn na sepna aa kal nuam na hi leh nang kuan hong piangsak cih kidong pah lecin. Na mi pumpi mahmah hong bawl ong piangsak pa Pasian ahi hi. Nang le nang na kipiangsak thei kei ding hi. Upna ih cih mahmah zong Pasian’ letsong ahi hi. Mimawh ih hih lam za ah za ih kitel masiah upna ii thupiitna ii thupi saan (appreciate) thei kei ding hi. Mimawh na hih lam, mi kicingtaak lo na hih lam, deih pen a bang zo nai lo na hih lam na kitel zahzah bekin mi hoih na hihna hong khansuah ding hi. Na kihawm thawh semsem leh a hoih semsem cihna ahi hi. Zan hun khua mial hun ciangh mei tang neh semsem rehang ih pum tung ih puan tung aa nin baang kimu semsem hi. Mimawh ih hih lam za ah za kitelna tawh kampau thu genin gamta rehang ih societies kipawlna te ih veng ih paam le ih gam hong nuam pan ding hi mawk hi. Ih veng le paam sung kipawlna a noplohna, Kawlgam zum pai ciangh a nop lohna, Christ makaai te kiangah ih pai ciangh a nop lohna pen ei mau tek ii ih gen ih sep ih bawl zia maan kisa tek mimawh mi za ah za ih hih lam kitel lo tek ih hih man ahi hi. Ih sep khat peuhpeuh a hoih pen kisa kha pahpah i hih man hi. Hi bang paizia tawh upna ii thupiitna ih thupi saan thei kei kha ding hi. We will never appreciate Faith unless we are convicted as sinners by hundreds percent of our own sinful nature. God calls us to the simplest way (faith) for the greatest gain.

       

      Backslide (nungtolh) vs Apostasy (puuk)

      Matthew 7: 17, 18na ah “Tua ahih manin singkung cidamte in gah limci gah a, singkung gina lote in gah gina lo gah uh hi. Singkung cidamte in gah gina lo gah ngei lo a, singkung gina lote in gah limci gah nei lo hi. Backslide cih tehh nungtolh cihna hi. Thu ummi khat nungtol pak thei ding hi. Backslidng is possible for true believers. But a postasy is impossible for true believers. Pasian’ saptaktak thu um taktak mi ahih leh Pasian mah in phong kik ding hi. Apostasy cih tehh thu um minpua pong cihna hi. Apostasy means temporary believers. Apostasy cih tehh puukna cihna hi-a, puukna pen a kipatna a maan kei leh puuk cihna hi. Tua ahih manin Pawlpi sungah zong thu um taktak ahi taang le thu um minpua tahum po khawm hi. Thu um min pua te pen a tawpna ah hong puuk hamtang ding uh hi. Gentehna Judah Siakazuh te pawl. Tua a puukna uh pen a kipatna a maan lo uh ahihna le thu um taktak mi ahih lohna uh a kel luphum uh a kilang sak tetti (evidence) ahi hi. In my own word, whether salvation can be lost or not is to be dealth with true beginning, thu repentance and true converstion not by half truth or mere profession. Thu nung thu ma thei lo aa Salvation kitaan thei lo cih ziau pen hoih masa lo-a, salvation kitaan thei cih lah laihuai pen sem hi. Kitaan thei a ci te’n mihing a muang lua suak aa, kitaan thei ngiat lo a ci ziau te in zong Pasian a muang khial suak thei kha dinguh hi. Bangbangin  a lang nih tuakah negative point om thei hi mah ta leh kitaan thei lo cih sangin kitaan thei cih pen lauhuai zaw hi. Banghang hiam cih leh kitaan thei ci pen biakna dang ahi buddhism teaching khawng tawh a kilamdanna om lo-in LST lungdamna thu tawh zong ki lehngak zaw hi. Kitaan thei cih pen sepna tawh cihna hi-a, ahi zongin LST in sepna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo na ci hi. LST tawh kituak lo ahih nak leh lauhuai zaw cihna hi. Sepna cih pen genbanglohna cih kul pah hi. Genbang lo tawh kuamah a si ding ih om kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin tatkhiatna ngah khit tehh kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih tawh ki dong nawn lo zawin, tatkhiatna pen koici bangin kingah cih bangin kidong zaw rehang. Tatkhiatna kitaan maw cih pen ngah khitteh kitaan maw ci-in ki dong nawn lo zaw-in ngah ma-in kitaan thei maw cih lam tawh kidot ding hi zaw hi. Ih ngah takpi aa, thu ummi true believer ih hih taakpi ding thupi masa hi. Ei Zomi te’ lakah (true believer) thu um taktak nungzui taktak mi sangin Christian minpua hong tam semsem na pen decisionism ahi dictatorship le alter call prayer for salvation cih te hang ahi hi. Decisionism cihteh pastor pa in mipi te’ aading salvation hotkhiatna khensat sak cihna hi. Tua a khensat sak mite in pastor pa’ khensat sakna pen paulap suk pah-a tua nu tua pa amah le amah a kipat pan thu um taktak mi ahih loh lam zong mite in phawk sak lo ahih man-a salvation kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih khawng peuh tawh a buai ih hi hi. Decisionism cih tehh ki khawm mite a mai ah samin pastor pa in a ma cih bangbang Tanshwe in a sawl daandaan aa kizui sakin, tua khitteh kei pen tu ni aa kipan a piang thak ta ka hihi cih thunget kizui sak leuleu-in amau le amau kipia tawm gawp cihna hi. A mipa a minu ii kitel taktakna conviction tawm zong omlo thei hi. Tua hi ih buaina!

       

      Mimawh te tungah Pasian’ ong hehpihna

       Total depravity and total inability because of Adam’ fall cih LST thu laigil te theih huai masa hi. Mihing te a hoih khat zong om lo hi. No one is righteous Romans 3: 10. Ih vek pi aa, hell gam tung ding aa kilawm ih hih lam, mawh nei mi ih hih lam ih kiciat mahmah ih ki convinced mahmah phot kei leh Pasian’ thu laigil kitel zo lo ding hi. Ih vek aa hell gam tung ding kimlai Jesuh ong tatkhiatna sungah upna tawh hehpihna ih ngah theih pen lungdamna thu hi. Vantung gam tung ding thu ummite pen hell gam tung thu umlo mite sangin a hoih zaw hi peuh mah lo hi. Hell tung te le Vangam tungte ih vek aa a ki bang hi hang. We all deserve hell. Ahi zongin a telsa mite ih kilawmna om het lo pi mah in Jesuh Khrih tanpa le Topa aa ih saanna tawh vangam a ngah thei ding aa nang le kei Pasian in hong hing khawi lai manin lungdam mahmah hang. Tua pen hehpihna ih cihcih pen hi.

      Grace-Faith-Repentance-Forgivenness-God’s preservation-and believers’ persevereance.

       Tatkhiatna pen na ngah takpi leh na taan nawn kei ding hi. Na ngah takpi kei leh bel na taan ding hi. A pat pan aa a taan khiinkhian a ngah lo khinkhian na hihna pen a tawp dong na kholohna in hong kilang sak kik hi bek hi. A taan lo te pen a kipat cil aa ngah takpi cihna hi. Once truly save always save.

       

      Matthew 24: 24na aa “Banghang hiam cih leh Khrih a kineih khemte le kamsang a kineih khemte hong piang ding a, a hih zawh leh a teelsa mite nangawn a khemna dingun lim le nalamdang lianpipi hong bawl ding uh hi” cihna ah, teelsa mi te pen ahih zawh leh cih hi bek hi. Teelsa mite pen hih zo lo ding cihna kilang pah hi. Late 37: 24na ah “Amah a puk hangin lu-tuk lo ding hi; banghang hiam cih leh Topa in ama khut len hi” ci hi. Christian te ih nisim nuntaakna ah ih tuk zel hangin ih lu kitam lo ding hi. A lang khat lam leuleu ah teel loh mite a khem zawh ding tampi tak hong piang lai ding ahih manin Satan aa dingin kipat taak mahmah lai cihna hi. Pasian in nang le kei hong teel hi. Thanks the Lord!

       

      One last note: Apua lam biaknate gen nai loh Chrisitanity sungah Tatkhiatna kitaan cih pen Roman Catholic ii teaching hi pen hi. Siampi te tungah mawhna suut kei leh cih te pawl etc…Hi thu pen Britist monk Pelagius a kici pa’ upna ahi salvation pen by work tawh hi a ci pa upna zuihna ahi hi. Tua pen Pelagianism kici hi. Tu lai Vatican in ahih leh Semi-Pelagianism kici salvation pen upna le sepna faith+work ahi hi cih thu a pom laitak hi. Ahih hang Vatican mahmah in zong Justificatin by Grace through faith alone cih pen asung lamah official sak khinkhian na pi un apply lo lettuih in gen khia zang khia lo uh hi cih thu zong theih huai. Hi Pelagianism te pen a beisa thu ummite’ hun aa Creed te in a na condemned heresy hi ci-a ana ciapteh ahi hi.

       

      Challenge: Salvation is not by work. It is by Grace through faith alone. Tu lai Kawlgam aa numei naupang bangmah thei cian lote’ gen faith namte bel hi lo. Ei faith gen pen LST Faith hi ei! The Faith of the Bible. Thanks.

       

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        Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hangh kitaan thei lo (Romans 8: 29-30)    Once save always save cih a pheeng gente hangin Biblical truth ahi once save
      Message 2 of 28 , Sep 1, 2009
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        Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hangh kitaan thei lo (Romans 8: 29-30)
         

         Once save always save cih a pheeng gente hangin Biblical truth ahi once save always save cih thu ii za ah za thumaan ahihna lunghiang pih lai zang kei in. Pasian in a mite khahsuah thei hi muanhuai lo hi ci-a Satan in a thumaan thu mah tawh ih pukna ding aa a techque ong toknawina hi. Tua techque pen Satan ih ama mite mah one save always save a cih sak hang hi. In the contact of God, once save always save is true but in the contact of Satan it is deceitful.

         

        Tatkhiatna pen ih ngah khit tehh kitaan thei nawn lo hi. Thu khat ah, tatkhiatna ngah takpi maw ngahtakpi lo cih bel kidot huai pen hi. Tua ih kikup nop thu pen tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh kitaan thei maw cih thu hi lo zaw-in, tatkhiatna kingah lo thei cih hi zaw hi. Khat veivei mihing te thu kikumkum pong mawk na pi-in a phi (the answer to the question) ah ih kibat lohna pen dotna maan lo (wrong question) hang na hi gige thei hi. Tua ahih manin a masa pen in dotna maan (right question) a dong thei ih hih masak ding zong thupi hi.

        Tua ih kikup nop pen Tatkhiatna a ngah lo te’n bang hang ngah lo? Tatkhiatna a ngah te in koici bang in ngah cih thu hi zaw hi. Thuma (before the event) ii thu tawh kipat ding hi zaw hi. Not after the event. Tatkhiatna, gupkhiatna ngah khit tehh taan kik thei maw cih pen (un qualified question) ahi hi. It is still a question. But the question itself is unqualified for its answer.

        Ezekiel 33:11-15 le Matt 23: 37na te pawl pen Tatkhiatna ngah theihna ding aa, kisik kikna Pasian in a kalhna hi. (This text is for unbelievers). A piangthak khin mite tungah hah genna hi lo zaw hi. Tatkhiat gupkhiat ngah khit ciang aa ding thu a genna hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ma aa mimawh pa/nu in a mawhna a kisik kei leh ngah lo ding ahihna tona challenge na hi zaw hi. Tatkhiatna na ngah khit ciang aa tona challenge na hi lo zaw hi. Kipia khin ngah khin aa sut kik aa taan sak kik cih peuh mah pen Pasian’ nasep hi thei lo hi. Ginat loh vai lua mahmah hi. Ih theih dingah Christ effectual calling cih khawng thupi hi. Romans 8: 30na ah “whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified” na ci ngiat hi. Romans 9: 11na ah God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of his call na ci hi. Tatkhiatna pen na kipatcil in ngah takpi maw ngahtak pi lo cih tawh kidot huai zaw hi. Kuate in tatkhiatna taan thei hiam cih leh  a um lo a saang lote in taan thei bek-a a um a saang te in taan cih bang om thei lo zaw-in saangin ngah hi cih thu hi zaw hi. A taktak in ci rehang tatkhiatna taan cih taktak zong kua in thei ih hiam? Pasian bekin thei hi. Ahih hangh ih theih dingah Khrih in muibun effective aa a sap mite piangthak (true converted) takpi ding aa, tua kisikna maan tawh pianthakna (conversion with true repentance) ahih nak lelah taan kik cih bang om thei lo hi. Ih piaksa sut kik kei peuh rehang ih piak pa in ngah suak hamtang hi. Tua ahih manin Pasian in ong piaksa ong sut kik ngei lo pa hi. Ih theih dingah Pasian in a sap loh mi-in um lungdamna thu hong um thei thei lo ding uh hi. Philippian 2: 13na for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure na ci hi. A nuai ah ih kikup ding pen piaksa suh kikna taan kikna vai hi lo zawin, kua te in tua a kipia letsong ngah thei aa, kua te in ngah lo thei hiam? Cih hi zaw hi. Hong kipia naakhat saang kei lecin na ngah ding a taan khol khin na hi ta hi. A taan kik ih cih te zong a kipat aa a lungsim le kha tawh sang tak pi lo cihna hi. Na keel luphum hong kidawk ve leh! A saang taktak lo na hihna hong ki dawk ve leh cih ding hi zaw hi. Tua pen a ngah takpisa a taan cih ding hi lo zaw-a, a tung a kipat aa a ngah takpi a saang tak pi lo na hi ve leh cih ding hi zaw hi. Ka saang ka ngah na cih pong mawk hangin na zuaupi ahi ve leh. Singkung a gah in kithei ih cihcih tua daan aive cih ding hi.. Pasian in thu-ummite’ tatkhiatna ong kep cing sakna thu-ummite ii thuakzawhna, ih khona le cihtakna ah kilang hi. God’s preservation is evidenced in true believers’ perseverance.

        John 10: 26, 27na aa, “…note pen keima tuu hilo na hih manun Khrih ka hih lam na hong um kei uh hi. Keima tuute in ka aw za-in thei uh ahih manin kei hong zui uh hi” a cihna ah, Jesuh tuu te na hi uh leh, um ding uh hi. Banghang hiam cih leh upna pen Khrih’ tuu hihna ii gah ahi hi. Faith is one of their marks. Actually, not being Christ’s sheep was not the Cause of the unbelief of the Jews, but their unbelief was the evidence that they were not Christ’s sheep.

         

        Upna nangawn ei aa hi lo (faith itself is the gift of God…Eph. 2: 8)

        Faith is objective. Not subjective. Upna cih pen mimawh pa’ pua lam pan aa a sung lamah kipia thu hi zaw hi. Ama sung lam pan aa kipan tawm hi lo zaw hi. A tom in gen rehang a um mite pen amau le amau hoihna tawh a um thei hi lo-in, a um lo mite ahih leh amau le amau kibawl tawm ahi hi. (Akilamdanna na theih zawh nang na hanciam in). Mangpau in tom gen mahmah rehang (election and reprobate).Upna ih cih pen Pasian Kha Siangtho’ ong sepsak hi. Zechariah 4: 6 “It is not by might or by power, but by my Spirit”…Ama Kha tha bekmah tawh hi hang. John 1: 12, 13na ah “Tua bangin Pasian tate suahna pen leitung ngeina nute pate sung panin suahna tawhh hi lo-in Pasian sung panin suahna ahi hi…nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God ci hi. Um cih pen sepna hi lo hi. Na up ding pen ahi ding mah ahi hi. Ahi ding mah ahi naa te pan-a pua pialna in leitungah problem piangsak hi. Ih Problem pen mawhna (sin) hi. Ih mawhna pan’n ih kisik kik ciangh in zong a zian a ngah kikpan hi hangh. Romans 4: 4ff.

        Ephesians 2:8-10na ah For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

        Theih pak ding ah, tatkhiatna pen sepna tawh hi lo hi. Zong kitaan thei lo hi ih cih ciangh ut bangbang aa gamta ding cih nopna hi lo hi. Mihing te pen tatkhiat ngah tawh ngah lo tawh, tatkhiat ngah khin tawh ngah nai lo tawh ih vek aa, kuamah hoih zo tuan vet lo ih hih manin, hoihna dikna le hahkatna tawh tatkhiatna kingah in tatkhiatna kitaan hi cih thu a maan lohna thu LST in a gen nuam ahi zaw hi. Tua hangin Upna bek tawh hi zaw hi a ci ih hi hi. Tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh kingah lo-in hahkat lohna tawh zong kitaan tuan lo hi. Kam dang khatin gen rehang tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh zong kingah beh tuan lo hi. Upna nangawn Pasian letsong hi lai hi a cihna thu a kithei sak nuam ih hi. Na telsiam dingin ong lamen ingh.

         

        CALVINSIM AND ARMINIANSIM THU TAWM

        TULIP a kici John Calvin in Jacob Arminius le a pawl te ii LST upna laigil pi pan aa paikhialhna Remonstrain tungtaang aa Jocob Arminius ii 1610 kum aa, his five points of doctrine pen John Calvin in 1619 aa Synot of Dot pan aa LST based aa Jacob Arminius ii five points a dawnna the five points of Calvin pen TULIP kici hi.

        1. T= Total depravity (mihing khempeuh sia khin. Mawh khin)
        2. U= Unconditional election (hoihna, dikna le sepna condition tungtawn hilo. A kiteel mite kua te cih eite in thei lo ihih manin tua ih theih kholh loh Pasian bekin a theih a teelsa mite tungah lungdamna thu gen ding ih tavuan)
        3. L= Limited atonement (or particular atonement)—Deihna nei sihna (A telsa mite aa ding bek aa Jesuh singlamteh tungah si cihna. Kamdang khat in gen rehang a ummite le a hong um lai ding mite Pasian teel te na hi gige pah)
        4. I= Irresistible grace  (Pasian’ hehpihna pen kinolh thei lo. Pasian’ hehpihna pen nang hanciam zawh thu tawh na ngah hi lo cihna)
        5. P= Perseverance of the saints (Thu ummite’ khona. A tawp dong cihtaakna cih ding hi. God preservation is evidenced in the believers’ perseverance. But believer’s perseverance is not the cause for preservation/ salvation) cih ding hi.

        Hi thu pan-a, Calvinism le Arminian cih thu hong piang hi.

        Calvin doctrine le Arminius doctrine pen number 3thumna le 4lina pan kithu kimlo pha diak hi. Arminius ii Unlimited atonement (general atonement) Calvin in Biblical sa lo ahih manin Limited atonement (particular atonement kammal) tawh dawng hi

        Arminius ii Resistible grace pen biblical sa lo ahih manin Calvin in Irresistible grace cih kammal tawh na dawng hi. Five points of Calvin pen five points of Arminius tungah dawnna hi aa, five points of Calvinist pen five points of Arminius om kei leh a om lo ding ahi hi. Arminius in numbat thumna tungtawnin bang gen hiam cih leh Jesuh ong sihna pen mi khempeuh aa ding hi cih daan hi. Salvation made possible. Salvation is not certain cih hi pha diak hi. God has done his part. Now is your turn cih peuh hi ziauziau hi. Tatkhiatna pen mihing tungah kinga zaw in Pasian tungah kinga lo zaw hi ci hi. Tua ciangh numbat lina tungtawn aa Arminius genna ah hehpihna pen Pasian in by force tawh ong pia lo hi eimau ih san leh bek kingah hi ci. Hih Ariminian teachings pen Pelagianism a kici Nicene Creed ih cih te ii heresy ci aa a ki condemned upna pan aa hong piang khia hi. Buddhism teaching mah bang aa human effort tawh salvation kingah cih daan hi mawk hi. LST sungah Pasian in salvation belongs to God ci hi. John 2: 9; Rev 7: 10 and many others verses in the bible. LST ih et tehh Pasian in active tak aa nang le kei salvation ding a sepna kilang mahmah hi. Beyond our understanding the Holy Spirit is working in us from the beginning to the end. Salvation pen eimau hanciamna tawh ngah in eimau perfect lohna genbaan lohna tawh kitaan kik thei cih LST in gen hi leh kuamah vantung gam tung lo ding hi hang. Mihing te pen ih sih ma-dong mawhna tawh kipeng kua mah om zo lo ding hi hangh. You will die sinning. Only the blood of Jesus will save you. Nothing but the blood of Jesus! Faith alone is our victory not by your perfection.

         

        Special grace and common grace

        Pasian hehpihna pen a teel mite bekin nolh kik zawh loh-in ngah ding hi. Tua pen special grace kici hi. Common grace pen thu umlo mite in zong ngah hi. Leitung hauhna, nitang le guah tui te zong ih ngah khawm hi. 2 Thessalonians 2: 13, 14na ah Paul in Pasian in note hong teel ahih manin lungdam na ka ko tawntung hi ci hi. God chooses you from the beginning for your salvation. Election granted salvation. Pasian in Pharoh lungtang ka khauhsak hi ci hi. Ahih hangin a lungtang a khauhsak bek hi a, mawhna a bawlsak pen Pasian hi lo hi. God’s hardening the heart doesn’t mean he cause them to sin. Hoihna peuh mah Pasian hang hi-a, siatna peuhmah nang hang hi. In the case of good God is directing. But in the case of evil God is over-ruling. God actually takes the initiative. God plans and God accomplishes. Election granted our repentance and salvation. And election leads to holiness… Eph. 1. But holiness is not the cause that saves you.

        Ahih hangin salvation pen eimau ih saan leh ngah bekin eimau mah in ih khahsuah leh kitaan kik thei a cite in “tua bang ahih leh teltuamna ih cih in Pasian mi deidan pa suah hi ci uh hi.” Hi te pen Arminian te kici hi. Human free will tawh salvation kingah ci hi. A nu a pa a u anau aading thungetsak leh vantung gam tung ding ci uh hi. Nget zawh thu tawh kingah hi cih bul phuh hi. Tua ahih manin thu a nget uh tehh Topa aw ka pa ong tatkhiat sak in cih daan hi pah hi. Tua leh Pasian in tua Arminian pa kiangah tua na thungetsak na pa zong free will khensatna pia ka hih manin ama khensat bang hi zaw henla, nang thu ngetsakna tawh hi kei zaw hen. Amah zong nang mah bangin free will ka pia khin hi ci zeel ding hi. Hyper Calvinist ih cih te leuleu in ei nget thu tawh salvation kingah hi lo ahih tehh thunget kul vet kei. Pasian thu zong taangko kul vet kei ci zel hi. Hi nih kikaal ah reformation kisam hi. Thu nget ding hi-a, human free will/ human agency cihte in zong a ma dinmun maan right place nei hi. Arminian te in Pasian teeltuamna le it tuamna thu nial uh hi. A taktak in ci rehang “man in sin refuses to repent, to believe in Jesus”. Actually no one should be saved. We all are deserved for condemnation. The fact is without election no one will be saved. Election should not be negative. Ataktak in ci rehang mihing te in ei le ei tawh a kisik kik thei lo a um thei lo hell lam zuan tum khin ih hi hi. Ahi zongin mawh nei mi nang le kei tua Pasian teeltuamna it tuamna hangin hong kitan khia khin hi. Amen!

        Like Wesley you may deny election on your head but in your heart you believe election. Na lu in teeltuamna a nial hangin na lungtangin um veve ding hi.

         

        Lei pian ma pek aa hong  kiteel maw? Favoritism?

        Calvinist ih cih te in Pasian in teel khol hi. Sehh khol hi. It khol hi. Pasian in lei pian ma pekin hong teel khin hi ci uh…Ephessians 1: 4ff. God loved beforehand. God foreknew Pasian in ma theih hi ci uh. Pasian in sem masa den ci uh. God always takes the initiative of all ci uh. Tua ahih manin Pasian teelsa mite beek in hong um thei ding ci uh. Hi pen election prior to faith kici hi. Arminian te in tua pen Pasian thumaan lo suah uh tehh. Pasian in tua bangin miteel khol leh a teel te bekin um leh taza lo hi legitimate lo hi ci uh. A um thei te bek a teel ding hi ci uh. Arminian te genna ah Pasian in a teel ma pekin kua te in upna na nei uh cih na ma theih khol ci uh. Hi pen Faith prior to God’s election kici hi. Arminian te genna ah upna ih neih leh bek Pasian in hong teel hi ci uh. Tua mi nu mi pa in upna nei a hih manin um ding hi cih thu Pasian in ana ma theih hi bek hi ci.  Prior to election, God has foreseen faith in those who will believe prior to election cih daan hi. Hi lai mun ah Calvinist te leuleu in Pasian in tua upna amah le amah aa a nei thei tawm te bek teel ahih leh upna a nei lo te teel lo ahih manin taza lo hi legitimate lo hi ci. Pasian pen condition sepna bawlna tungah kinga in a hoih te teel in a hoih lo te a teel lo hi mawk hi ci.  Pasian guat loh in kuamah in Pasian tawh kilem kik theihna ding upna nei lai zang lo hi ci uh. Tua ahih manin upna sangin teeltuamna masa zaw hi. Pasian kiang lam pan kipan zaw-in mihing lampan eimau neih tawm tawh kipat theih bangmah om ngei lo hi. Banghang hiam cih leh piansak te ih hi hi. Hi Armnians te gen daan pen favoratism angvantuam neihna kici zaw hi ci uh. Favoratism cihteh Pasian in angvan tuam nei sak uh tehh kicih tuakna hi. Actually, if someone (an Arminian) has faith whom God saw as if he has faith prior to God’s election, and if that is the reason chosen by God is favoritism.

         

        Romans 8: 29-30na

        Pasian’ Tapa mi khempeuh lakah a upa pen a suah theihna dingin Pasian in a tel kholhsa mite, a Tapa tawh a kibang dingin a sehsa ahi hi. Tua ahih manin ama sap mite a sehsa hi a, ama sap mite amah tawh a kipawlin bawl a, amah tawh a kipawl-a a bawl mite ama minthan’na zong a hawm hi. Ephessians 1: 4na ah “Ama mai ah eite pen pauban’na a nei lo, mi siangthote ahi ding le Khrih hangin ama mite ahi dingin leitung a pian’ ma pek nangawnin Pasian in a hong telsa ih hi hi” na ci hi. Apat pan a tawp dong a nasep a zo tiuteu Pasian ih biak khak manin ki paak mahmah hangh. Hih LST munin Pasian theihkholna telkholna le sehkholna thu kician tak in gen hi. Nang le nang question na kidongdong lecin Pasian’ tung vive tu kik ding hi. Pasian pen a beisa bek ah nasem pa hi lo hi. Abeisa, tuhun le hong tung ding hun khempeuh ah nasem pa hi. Salvation has a past reference (Eph 2: 8) and is a present experience (1 Cor 1: 18) and is a future hope (Romans 5: 9). Hong kitatkhiatna thu na theih khiat, na experience khiat ciangin nang sep hi lo-in nang tungah hong kisem a thei khia a phawk khia na hi lel hi. Na ci hong kimeek sak leh ka cih hong kimeek hi cih na up loh a phamawh ahi hi. Tatkhiatna kitel khia ing cih zong tua daan aa kiphawkna na hi bek lel hi. Na sepna tawh tatkhiatna a ngah na hi peuh mah kei hi. Na tung aa hong kisem na up loh a phamawh na upna tawh tatkhiatna a ngah na hi hi. Tua bangin nang tungah ong kisep ciangin na um thei hi. The wonderful work of God in the Lord Jesus preceded all of our experience (2Cor 5: 17-19).

        Pasian in a sehsa mite a kitatkhiat theihna dingin lampi honkhiat sakin sam-a, tua asapsa mite a Tapa’ sisan tawh tankhia a, tua atatsa mite khempeuh zong aminthan pih lai ding hi. Ih theih dingah tatsa mite pen hong ki gupgup laitak hi. They are being sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Ih theih lai dingah tatkhiatna den lam ciangh zong hong ngah lai ding om hi. A ngah lai ding tu laitak a ngah nai lo deuh zong om zihziah lai hi. Naungek zong a suak nai lo le a suaksa a om mah bang ahi hi. Tua ahih manin hih tatkhiatna pen kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cihna ah, dotna question ih kidop mahmah kisam hi. Tatkhiatna pen atung a kipat thu tawh kisai hi. A kipat aa na ngah takpi le na ngah takpi loh thu tawh kisai zaw hi. Na ngah takpi leh taan cih bang om nawn lo hi. Na ngah takpi hiam cih thupi zaw hi. Saul te Judas te pen a pat cil lim aa a maan lo a mau le amau ki khem te na hi uh hi. True repentance true conversion ahih nak leh atawp dong kho ding hi. A tawp dong a kho kei leh a patna pen true repentance true conversion tawh kipan lo cihna hi. A tawp dong khona pen a kipatna a maanna hang na hi zaw hi. Justification and sanctification hi nih pen Christian te in a Christian nuntaakna ah a tuak loh uh a phamawh thu nih hi. Sanctification is the fruit of justification not vice versa. Ih Christian nisim nuntaakna ah Kha Siangtho tha bek tawh ih kalsuan hi. Gup mi hihna pen tatkhiatna ii gah ahi hi. Tatsa mite a nisim nuntakna ah a gamtatna uh a kipuah phatphat laitak uh ahi hi. Ahi zongin tua gamtat kipuah phatna pen tatkhiat ngahna hi lo hi. Gamtatna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo hi. Ih gamtatna in tatkhiatna ngah mi ih hihna a kilang sak hi zaw hi. Tatkhiat ngah khit tehh ki perfect ki genbaang lo pah ding cihna zong hi lo hi. The more you feel guilt you are the more becoming holier. Don’t try to take baptism again. Na mawhna pan siangthona lamah na kah toh simin tui kiphum kik ding hi lo hi. Mihing te pen a mawh pi mah aa kisi lai ding hi. Tatkhiatna ii gah ahi gupkhiatna ih khah suah leh kitaan kik ding cih a thumaan ahih mawk leh mi khempeuh hell tung mang ding hi. Pasian na sem lian Moses David cih te zong a hun nunung ta uh ciangh puk uh hi. Nang zong na hun nunung lamah puk beh lai ding hiteh. Ahi zongin tua na pukna tawh vangam na taan kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin kuamah perfection ih cih genbanlohna tawh vangtung gam kitung lo ding hi. A gen bangpipi mah in Topa’ ong tatsa ih hi hi. Praise the Lord! Ahi zongin kuamah perfect lo cih pen ih paulap ding hi lo zel hi. Tatsa mite pen ih cihtakna ih gamtat hoihna te Topa aa ding aa ih faithful na te tawh kituakin letsong (rewards) hong kipia lai ding hi. So be faithful. Tua ih san ding letsong te pen hotkhiatna, tatkhiatna le gupkhiatna hong pia vangam hong tun the Cause a bulpi pen hi lo zel hi. Once save always save cih pen a thumaan hi. Jesuh in ka Pa in kei hong piak tuute kuamah in ka khut sung pan la khia zo lo ding ci hi. A thupoi ah mipoi pawl khat in tua Once save always save pen olzat in kimawlna bangin a zat uh te thu ummite linglawng lungka sak uh hi. Linglawng lungkaat ding hi zenzen lo hi. Tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh taan kik nawn lo cih kammal once save always save pen thu umlo mite in zong pheng gen ziau thei mah hi. A gen thu uh maan aa, a hih hang amau tungah piang lo kha ding hi. Kam in ih zuih zawh loh pih thu zong thukimin pau thei hi. Ahih hang a kipau khia thu pen a thumaan na hi lel hi.

         

        Piakna le Saanna gentehna

        Gentehna minthang mahmah khat. Mi thum om dingin tua te’ lakah lingmaw (oranges) pum thum kipia ding. Nih te gel in saangin a khat pa in sang lo la lo ahih manin ngah lo hi. Tua mah bangin tatkhiatna zong a saang te bekin  ngah in a saang lo te in ngah lo hi cih thu ahi hi. Hi lai mun ah qualified question khat kidong thei hi. Tua mite lakah tua lingmaw a sang lo pa pen liiphiat ih cih khut zaw cidam lo khat ahih man-a sang lo na hi leh e? Tua khut zaw pa in tua lingmaw a kipiak hang saang thei lo ding hi. Tua khut zaw cidam lo pa pen nang le kei ih hihi. Mi mawh ih hi khin hi. Corruption-Original sin, Guilt imputed sin cih te hangin mihing te a si ih hi hi. Sing hiang khat a kung tung pan na lak khiat cil-in a hing lai mah bang lel hi. Ahih hangin a kungpi tawh kikhen khia khin ahih manin tua singhiang pen a hing a bat sesat laipong hangin a sikhin ahi hi. Nang le kei tua bang dinmun ah ih om hi. Hih theihna bang mah ih nei kei hi. A si pi ih hi hi. Lingmaw a saang thei lo khut zaw pa tawh ih kibang hi. Pasian tawh a kikhen khin te ih hi hi. Tua ahih manin Jesuh in Matthew 9: 12, 13na ah “Cidam te in syavuan kisam lo uh a, cina mite bek in kisam uh hi…Mite in a zahtak mi hoihte a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi kei a, mite in a pampaih mite a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi hi,” a ci hi. Jesuh pen tua lingmaw a sang thei mi nih te’ aading aa ong pai hi lo zaw in tua lingmaw a sang thei lo cidam lopa khut zaw pa mawhna sungah a si cip nang le kei aa ding aa ong pai hi zaw hi. Jesuh in ong sepsak khin hi. It is finished! (John 19: 30). Ei thu-mu mite tatkhiat ngah kician mite pen hong kihon khia khin hong kitan khia khin hong kigupgup laitak hong kisian suahsuah laitak hi. I have been saved for justification and have been justified and am being sanctified and will be glorified yet. In other word, I have been saved and am being saved and will be saved yet. Tatkhiatna ka ngah theihna dingin Pasian in ka nun lui Egypt gam pan lampi hong sial pih in san tuipi na ngawn kantan in hong hon khia aa, a tawpna ah a Tapa Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia in tu laitakin a hong sawlpa Kha Siangtho in ong sian suahsuah laitak a ong gupgup laitak ka hi hi.

         

        Thum lakah mihing te’ aading aa a thupi pen

         Thum gawm Pasian sungah Tapa kilaitaat. Christ center saving grace. Thum aa kikhen hun (time) past+present+future sungah tuhun (the present time) ki laitaat. Hotkhiatna (Salvation plan by God the Father), Tatkhiatna (Justification/ Redemption accomplished by God the Son) le Gupkhiatna (Santification renew or awakening or sealed or adopted or led or guide or illumine or regenerated by the Holy Spirit) (hih the three components of saving event in Zolai contact) ah Tatkhiatna kilaaitaat hi. OT Egypt gam pan san tuipi kantan aa hotkhiatna in NT Topa Jesuh tatkhiatna kawk bek hi. Tu hun Kha Siangtho hun gupkhiatna nasepna ih cih te in zong Tapa tatkhiatna a siksan kei leh gupkhiatna man lo ahi hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ih hih lam ih kitel ding ih ngah ding hun pen zing ciang ci se ken ze kai niteh. The present time is the most important. Tu ni tu hun ding hi. Pilna (knowledge), Ciimna(Wisdom) le Siamna (Giftedness) hi thum lakah Ciimna (Wisdom) mah thupi pen. Inn (house), Baangkua (home) le innkuan (family) hi thum sungah baangkua (home) mah thupi pen hi.

        Pasian’ ciimna in eite tu hun tu mahmahin hong tankhia-in vantung baangkua pi ah hong tun pih thei hi. Cihnopna ah a thum in a thupi tek ahih hangin a laimu a mu zo taktak ding mi kikhaat mahmah hi cih a gen nuam ih hi hi.

         

        Hotkhiatna, Tatkhiatna le Gupkhiatna

        Zomi te in hi kammal thum te eimau kammal ahih lam ih phawk phat ding kisam hi. Honkhia cih tehh mi khat peuhpeuh a tawp dong tavuan (mawhpuak) na laak sak lohh ding hang honkhia pak thei hi tehh. Gumkhia cih tehh nang ta nang nau ahih nak leh gum hamtang  cihna hi lel hi. Tankhia cih kammal pen honkhia cih le gumkhia cih sangin a thu thuk zawkna a mui but zawkna Zomi Zolai siam te in ih thei sa hi pah hi. Tankhia cih pen ama nuntaakna mahmah tawh tankhia a sisan tawh ong tankhia cihna hi. Luang sawng hi. Topa Jesuh in eite ong tankhia hi. Hih tatkhiatna laigil thu pen LST Romans sungah lim gen mahmah hi. Tua pen Justification by faith cih thu ahi hi. Hih Justification by faith pen redemption zong kici thei ding hi. Salvation pen hotkhiatna hi-a, biakna dang te in zong salvation sense nei uh hi. Ei Christian te salvation a tumdang sak pen the Justification by Faith ahi hi. Romans 1: 17na ah “The righteous/ just shall live by faith” na ci ngeu hi. Pasian’ mai ah dik ih tan theihna pen upna hang bek tawh ahi hi.

        Tatkhiatna kihel lo hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna nam ahi Buhhism hotkhiatna, Hinduism le Muslim hotkhiatna te in a si cih ding hi. Christian te in zong hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna ih gengen hangin Jesuh ong tatkhiatna ahi Justification by Grace through faith Alone pen a kihel kei leh a si pi ahi hi. Tatkhiatna thu ah hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna kihel hamtang aa, gupkhiatna le hotkhiatna ih cih sungah tatkhiatna kihel lo gige thei hi. Baptists believe Justifiction is the only cause of our sancitfication not vice virsa. But RCs believe sanctification in the reason you will be justified. Justification le sanctification thu a tel te in telsiam pah ding hi. Ei Zopau in Justification pen tatkhiatna hi. Sanctification pen gupkhiatna hi. Hi munah hih thu nih ii thu ih ki tam kup man kei ding hi. Pasian’s sap mite bek kitankhia aa (John 6: 44, 45 No one can come to Me unless he Father who sent Me draws him), tua a kitankhia mite Kha Siangtho nasepna tawh a nisim nuntaakna tung tawnin kigumkhia kisian suah ki sanctified aa, ahi zongin tua hong ki sanctified siansuah gupkhiatna pen tatkhiatna a hong ngahsak thumasa pen hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna (justification) precedes gupkhiatna (sanctification). Gupkhiatna ih cih tua sanctification pen eimau thu ummi pa/nu le Kha Siangtho kipawl khawm aa sepna kici thei hi. Ahih hangin tua siansuahna ah khanna (growth) pen gumpa Kha Siangtho nasep mah hi kik zel in mihing sepna hang hi lo lai hi.

         

        Upna le Tatkhiatna

        Romans 5: 10na ah” Pasian tawh eite ih kilang neih lai takin ama Tapa sihna hangin amah tawh hong kilemsak ahih leh tu-in Pasian tawh kipawl khinta ihih manin Khrih’ nuntaakna in eite bangzahin hong honkhia zo zaw kan ding ahi hiam? Cihnopna ah Jesuh Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia khin  ahih leh tatsa mite ih puk zel laina pan-in hong kihon khia lua lai ding cihna kilang pah hi. Pasian in ka mite a puk hangin ka phong kik ding hi ci hi. In English to understand this text: believing does not save me—I simply realize believing saves me. (I am not saved by believing—I simply realize I am saved by believing. And it is not repentance that saves me—repentance is only the sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus. Romans 4: 4na ah “ Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. And not the one who does not work but trust him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness. Cihnopna ah: ahi ding bang aa ih nuntaakna pen sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi ding bang aa nuntaak lohna pen sepna hi se hi. Tatkhiatna ih ngahna dingin mihing na hoih kisem thei lo-a, ahi zongin tatkhiatna ngah lohna dingin na hoih lo kisem thei se hi. Mihing te sepna in sihna piang sak thei bek hi. Pasian in an ne ding aa a nungta ding aa hong bawl kimlai an ni 40 ne kei lecin na si ding hi. Ne kei lecin si ding. Ne lecin si lo ding cihna ah, ahi ding bang aa nuntaakna pen ahi ding mah ahih manin sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi ding thu a hi lo na suah citciat leh tua pen out of tune, out of order ahih manin tua pen nang ma mawh puak sepna hi ta hi. Pasian in Khrih ong tatkhiatna ih up ding ong kalhna pen a hi ding mah ahih manin ka upna zong sepna hi ven cih theih ding hi lo hi. Na upna na ngawn na sepna aa kal nuam na hi leh nang kuan hong piangsak cih kidong pah lecin. Na mi pumpi mahmah hong bawl ong piangsak pa Pasian ahi hi. Nang le nang na kipiangsak thei kei ding hi. Upna ih cih mahmah zong Pasian’ letsong ahi hi. Mimawh ih hih lam za ah za ih kitel masiah upna ii thupiitna ii thupi saan (appreciate) thei kei ding hi. Mimawh na hih lam, mi kicingtaak lo na hih lam, deih pen a bang zo nai lo na hih lam na kitel zahzah bekin mi hoih na hihna hong khansuah ding hi. Na kihawm thawh semsem leh a hoih semsem cihna ahi hi. Zan hun khua mial hun ciangh mei tang neh semsem rehang ih pum tung ih puan tung aa nin baang kimu semsem hi. Mimawh ih hih lam za ah za kitelna tawh kampau thu genin gamta rehang ih societies kipawlna te ih veng ih paam le ih gam hong nuam pan ding hi mawk hi. Ih veng le paam sung kipawlna a noplohna, Kawlgam zum pai ciangh a nop lohna, Christ makaai te kiangah ih pai ciangh a nop lohna pen ei mau tek ii ih gen ih sep ih bawl zia maan kisa tek mimawh mi za ah za ih hih lam kitel lo tek ih hih man ahi hi. Ih sep khat peuhpeuh a hoih pen kisa kha pahpah i hih man hi. Hi bang paizia tawh upna ii thupiitna ih thupi saan thei kei kha ding hi. We will never appreciate Faith unless we are convicted as sinners by hundreds percent of our own sinful nature. God calls us to the simplest way (faith) for the greatest gain.

         

        Backslide (nungtolh) vs Apostasy (puuk)

        Matthew 7: 17, 18na ah “Tua ahih manin singkung cidamte in gah limci gah a, singkung gina lote in gah gina lo gah uh hi. Singkung cidamte in gah gina lo gah ngei lo a, singkung gina lote in gah limci gah nei lo hi. Backslide cih tehh nungtolh cihna hi. Thu ummi khat nungtol pak thei ding hi. Backslidng is possible for true believers. But a postasy is impossible for true believers. Pasian’ saptaktak thu um taktak mi ahih leh Pasian mah in phong kik ding hi. Apostasy cih tehh thu um minpua pong cihna hi. Apostasy means temporary believers. Apostasy cih tehh puukna cihna hi-a, puukna pen a kipatna a maan kei leh puuk cihna hi. Tua ahih manin Pawlpi sungah zong thu um taktak ahi taang le thu um minpua tahum po khawm hi. Thu um min pua te pen a tawpna ah hong puuk hamtang ding uh hi. Gentehna Judah Siakazuh te pawl. Tua a puukna uh pen a kipatna a maan lo uh ahihna le thu um taktak mi ahih lohna uh a kel luphum uh a kilang sak tetti (evidence) ahi hi. In my own word, whether salvation can be lost or not is to be dealth with true beginning, thu repentance and true converstion not by half truth or mere profession. Thu nung thu ma thei lo aa Salvation kitaan thei lo cih ziau pen hoih masa lo-a, salvation kitaan thei cih lah laihuai pen sem hi. Kitaan thei a ci te’n mihing a muang lua suak aa, kitaan thei ngiat lo a ci ziau te in zong Pasian a muang khial suak thei kha dinguh hi. Bangbangin  a lang nih tuakah negative point om thei hi mah ta leh kitaan thei lo cih sangin kitaan thei cih pen lauhuai zaw hi. Banghang hiam cih leh kitaan thei ci pen biakna dang ahi buddhism teaching khawng tawh a kilamdanna om lo-in LST lungdamna thu tawh zong ki lehngak zaw hi. Kitaan thei cih pen sepna tawh cihna hi-a, ahi zongin LST in sepna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo na ci hi. LST tawh kituak lo ahih nak leh lauhuai zaw cihna hi. Sepna cih pen genbanglohna cih kul pah hi. Genbang lo tawh kuamah a si ding ih om kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin tatkhiatna ngah khit tehh kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih tawh ki dong nawn lo zawin, tatkhiatna pen koici bangin kingah cih bangin kidong zaw rehang. Tatkhiatna kitaan maw cih pen ngah khitteh kitaan maw ci-in ki dong nawn lo zaw-in ngah ma-in kitaan thei maw cih lam tawh kidot ding hi zaw hi. Ih ngah takpi aa, thu ummi true believer ih hih taakpi ding thupi masa hi. Ei Zomi te’ lakah (true believer) thu um taktak nungzui taktak mi sangin Christian minpua hong tam semsem na pen decisionism ahi dictatorship le alter call prayer for salvation cih te hang ahi hi. Decisionism cihteh pastor pa in mipi te’ aading salvation hotkhiatna khensat sak cihna hi. Tua a khensat sak mite in pastor pa’ khensat sakna pen paulap suk pah-a tua nu tua pa amah le amah a kipat pan thu um taktak mi ahih loh lam zong mite in phawk sak lo ahih man-a salvation kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih khawng peuh tawh a buai ih hi hi. Decisionism cih tehh ki khawm mite a mai ah samin pastor pa in a ma cih bangbang Tanshwe in a sawl daandaan aa kizui sakin, tua khitteh kei pen tu ni aa kipan a piang thak ta ka hihi cih thunget kizui sak leuleu-in amau le amau kipia tawm gawp cihna hi. A mipa a minu ii kitel taktakna conviction tawm zong omlo thei hi. Tua hi ih buaina!

         

        Mimawh te tungah Pasian’ ong hehpihna

         Total depravity and total inability because of Adam’ fall cih LST thu laigil te theih huai masa hi. Mihing te a hoih khat zong om lo hi. No one is righteous Romans 3: 10. Ih vek pi aa, hell gam tung ding aa kilawm ih hih lam, mawh nei mi ih hih lam ih kiciat mahmah ih ki convinced mahmah phot kei leh Pasian’ thu laigil kitel zo lo ding hi. Ih vek aa hell gam tung ding kimlai Jesuh ong tatkhiatna sungah upna tawh hehpihna ih ngah theih pen lungdamna thu hi. Vantung gam tung ding thu ummite pen hell gam tung thu umlo mite sangin a hoih zaw hi peuh mah lo hi. Hell tung te le Vangam tungte ih vek aa a ki bang hi hang. We all deserve hell. Ahi zongin a telsa mite ih kilawmna om het lo pi mah in Jesuh Khrih tanpa le Topa aa ih saanna tawh vangam a ngah thei ding aa nang le kei Pasian in hong hing khawi lai manin lungdam mahmah hang. Tua pen hehpihna ih cihcih pen hi.

        Grace-Faith-Repentance-Forgivenness-God’s preservation-and believers’ persevereance.

         Tatkhiatna pen na ngah takpi leh na taan nawn kei ding hi. Na ngah takpi kei leh bel na taan ding hi. A pat pan aa a taan khiinkhian a ngah lo khinkhian na hihna pen a tawp dong na kholohna in hong kilang sak kik hi bek hi. A taan lo te pen a kipat cil aa ngah takpi cihna hi. Once truly save always save.

         

        Matthew 24: 24na aa “Banghang hiam cih leh Khrih a kineih khemte le kamsang a kineih khemte hong piang ding a, a hih zawh leh a teelsa mite nangawn a khemna dingun lim le nalamdang lianpipi hong bawl ding uh hi” cihna ah, teelsa mi te pen ahih zawh leh cih hi bek hi. Teelsa mite pen hih zo lo ding cihna kilang pah hi. Late 37: 24na ah “Amah a puk hangin lu-tuk lo ding hi; banghang hiam cih leh Topa in ama khut len hi” ci hi. Christian te ih nisim nuntaakna ah ih tuk zel hangin ih lu kitam lo ding hi. A lang khat lam leuleu ah teel loh mite a khem zawh ding tampi tak hong piang lai ding ahih manin Satan aa dingin kipat taak mahmah lai cihna hi. Pasian in nang le kei hong teel hi. Thanks the Lord!

         

        One last note: Apua lam biaknate gen nai loh Chrisitanity sungah Tatkhiatna kitaan cih pen Roman Catholic ii teaching hi pen hi. Siampi te tungah mawhna suut kei leh cih te pawl etc…Hi thu pen Britist monk Pelagius a kici pa’ upna ahi salvation pen by work tawh hi a ci pa upna zuihna ahi hi. Tua pen Pelagianism kici hi. Tu lai Vatican in ahih leh Semi-Pelagianism kici salvation pen upna le sepna faith+work ahi hi cih thu a pom laitak hi. Ahih hang Vatican mahmah in zong Justificatin by Grace through faith alone cih pen asung lamah official sak khinkhian na pi un apply lo lettuih in gen khia zang khia lo uh hi cih thu zong theih huai. Hi Pelagianism te pen a beisa thu ummite’ hun aa Creed te in a na condemned heresy hi ci-a ana ciapteh ahi hi.

         

        Challenge: Salvation is not by work. It is by Grace through faith alone. Tu lai Kawlgam aa numei naupang bangmah thei cian lote’ gen faith namte bel hi lo. Ei faith gen pen LST Faith hi ei! The Faith of the Bible. Thanks.

         

        Gennop lai gelh nop lai tampi tawh

         

        Suang Dal

        Zozaang

        A Zomi

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      • EN SUAN SANG
        Dear Suang Dal, Gupna taan kik ding hi, Bang hang hiam cih leh, Hih lei tung mawh na gam hi lo maw? Gupna taan kik lo ding a hih leh? Nang ii nuam sak theih
        Message 3 of 28 , Sep 1, 2009
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          Dear Suang Dal,

          Gupna taan kik ding hi, Bang hang hiam cih leh, Hih lei tung mawh na
          gam hi lo maw? Gupna taan kik lo ding a hih leh? Nang ii nuam sak
          theih penpen in na ut bang2 in na om zong in, Na ngah sa Gupna taan
          kik lo dinghi ci-in tha a piakpiak na hi ve maw...Na ngah sa Gupna ki
          taan kik thei hi, Na taan kik ding laitak in si kha lecin e, Tua a hih
          maan in hih leitung a gamtat hoih lo na te pan in ii pumpi kem in TOPA
          Jeisu deih na bang in ii pum pi kem zo ciat ding in than lung ciam
          ciat ni.. Ih pumpi tunga van om hi lo in, ih pumpi sunga lung sim
          hi,,, ih pumpi tung a van khawng tawh thugen la ii hih leh bel, AKTUI
          leh AKPI koi piang masa zaw cih mah kul lo dia Dal, Thanks.

          Rev Dr ngah te in Mipil hong suak in, A mau mintawh tawhBiakna khat
          hong neih ziauziau uh in, Numei naupang mipi hongngah zokei uh leh
          hong khawl mai uhhi, bang hang a hi tam?

          Pumpau na pau na teng a sang hi,Suansang TX 78255
          On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:43 AM, suang dal<suangdal@...> wrote:
          > Gupna taan kik ding hi rehang kuamah in gupna ngah lo ding? Na taan kik ding
          > laitak si kha lecin e. Khomun le lenggah zu pen phawkna (rememberance) hi.
          > Evangelist te pen tatkhiatna a ngah lai ding te tungah thu gen ding te hi uh
          > aa tatkhiatna saang nuam lo te aading aa tetti ahih theihna ding hi. Pastor
          > te pen tuute kem cing ding hi. Na pumtung aa na vante pen na taan nawn loh
          > ding hang ne kep kul hi. A nei bangin kem in. Kem in nei. Nei in kem. kem
          > nei. nei kem. Nei+ kem
          >
          > Thanks
          >
          > --- On Sun, 8/30/09, EN SUAN SANG <suansang@...> wrote:
          >
          > From: EN SUAN SANG <suansang@...>
          > Subject: Re: [ ZOGAMNET ] Thu dotna Lianpi: Gupna kitan (lost) thei maw? Tan
          > thei nawnlo?
          > To: blessedzomi@yahoogroups.com
          > Date: Sunday, 30 August, 2009, 4:28 AM
          >
          > Dear Sia Dal,
          >
          > Gupna taan kik lo ding a hih leh, Pastor te in Khomun leh lenggah lui
          > a hawm uh bang a deih na?? Pawlpi kem Sia te bangding  ahia?? Evan
          > gelist bek ki samlo ding maw?...?? Sia Dal,
          > Situikha tawh gupkhiat na ngahki tel, Sangaa.TX  78255
          >
          > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 6:52 AM, suang dal<suangdal@...> wrote:
          >>
          >>
          >> Sya Mung, in a nuai-a a gen mah bangin Gupkhiatna pen nang tel ahih leh na
          >> taan ding aa, Pasian hong tel ahih leh na tan ngei kei ding hi. You chose
          >> and you lose. God choses you and you are not lost.
          >> Ih thu kikupna pen anuai aa Sya Pau in a gen mah bangin LST tawh kidawn
          >> man
          >> ziahziah hun zong om lo hi. LST mun a zang sunsun te-in zong amau ki
          >> defend
          >> na ding mun LST taang te bek zang uh hi.
          >> Thu pen kikum lua liang rehang a thupi penpen kikum lo kha thei hi hangh
          >> Gentehna in Aktui le Akpi koi piang masa zaw cih kikum kum rehang aktui
          >> piang masa zaw peuh a tamzaw ing thukim uh hi.
          >> A taktak in Pasian in piansakna (creation) abawl in aktui bawl masa lo hi.
          >> Akpi bawl masa hi. LST pen bulphuh in kipan tawntung rehang man pen ding
          >> hi.
          >> LST sungah teltuamna itna, hehpihna, mihing te mimawh mite ihihna cih te
          >> na
          >> lim gen mahmah hi. Tatkhia pa kisam ih hihna lim gen hi. Tua ahih manin hi
          >> thute bulphuh kul hi.
          >>
          >> Nung lam in ka gen theih zel ahi. Hotkhiatna ki taan thei. Gupkhiatna zong
          >> kitaan thei. Ahih hang Tatkhiatna kitaan thei lo cih ka gen zel hi. LST ii
          >> laigil pi pen justification by faith ahi hi. Kam dang khat in gen rehang
          >> Justification pen Redemption Jesuh in singlamteh tungah ong Tatkhiatna cih
          >> ding hi.
          >> Ahi zongin hi thu kikum man nawn kei ni hiah.
          >> Bangbang hi leh a tom in gen rehang gupkhiatna kitaan thei a ci te in zong
          >> Christian lumsim puak zia ding (resposibility) deihna hi aa, a sia hi
          >> peuhmah lo hi.
          >> Kitaan thei lo a cih te in zong Pasian' a muanhuaina a gen nuam lua hi zel
          >> ahih manin a sia hi peuh mah tuan lo hi.
          >>
          >> Bangbang hi leh, gupkhiatna kitaan thei lo cih pen Buddhism teaching tawh
          >> a
          >> kilam danna om lo hi. Kitaan thei lo cihteh sepna (by work) tawh hi mawk
          >> ahih manin, gupkhiatna pen by work tawh ahih mawk leh Buddhisim teaching
          >> khawngah kinak ap zaw rehang hoih dingin ka um hi.
          >> Christian gospel pen Hehpihna (grace) bekbek ahihna leh kitan thei lo
          >> ahihna, kitaan thei lo ahih leh tua a kitaan thei lo Christian nuntaak zia
          >> ih hilh ding lungdamna thu ii a tumdaanna ahi hi. Pasian pen ana sepsa a
          >> langsam aa nusia pa hi lo hi. God never left salvation half done.
          >> Gupna taan kik zel ding hi mawk rehang banghang in lungdamna thu the
          >> Christian gospel kisam lai ding ahi hiam? Ahi hangin tu lai gupna kigen
          >> tampi tak in Jesuh tatkhiatna siksan hiau lo ahih leh tan thei mah ding
          >> hi.
          >> LST in tatkhiatna kitaan thei lo hi ci in gen hi.
          >> Tua thu ih gen ding pen ih mawh puak hi zaw hi.
          >>
          >> Tua zah ci pak ni
          >>
          >> Dal
          >>
          >>
          >> --- On Sun, 8/23/09, N.S.Mung <nsmung@...> wrote:
          >>
          >> From: N.S.Mung <nsmung@...>
          >> Subject: Re: [ ZOGAMNET ] Thu dotna Lianpi: Gupna kitan (lost) thei maw?
          >> Tan
          >> thei nawnlo?
          >> To: blessedzomi@yahoogroups.com
          >> Date: Sunday, 23 August, 2009, 7:29 PM
          >>
          >>
          >>
          >> Gupna tawh kisai in nang sep ahih leh na tankik thei ding a, ahih hangin
          >> gupkhiatna pen Pasian sep hi na cih leh na tan thei kei ding hi. Lai
          >> Siangtho in tan theilo ding in gen hi. Pasian khut sung a omsa/Pasian na
          >> sepsa  nang gamtatna tawh tan thei ding ahih leh Pasian pen a gina lo, a
          >> muanhuailo Pasian hi ding hi. Biblical support tam lua hi mai. Anuai
          >> verses
          >> kong kongpiakte pan in , adang piak beh kullo in zong, kician khin hi.
          >> Hih munte na sim in Phil.1:6; John 3:16, adang tampi om lai.
          >> NSMung
          >>
          >> Skype ID: nsmung
          >>
          >>
          >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 8:38 AM, pum pau <jeffreypumpau@ yahoo.com> wrote:
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Guai,
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Nung sung teng in “Gupna kitan thei maw? Tan theilo?” cih dotna hong om
          >>> ciang iin, dawnna honkhat hong om hi. Dawnna atamzaw pen Lai
          >>> Siangtho(LST)
          >>> text support omlo hi. Tua ahihman iin, hih dotna tawh kisai LST in bang
          >>> gen
          >>> hiam? cih, hong kuppih nuam ing.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Bang hang iin gupna ngah ih hiam?  (The basis of our  Salvation)
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> “For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of
          >>> yourselves; it is the gift of God.” Eph. 2:8. Translation: Hehpihna
          >>> (grace)
          >>> hang tawh upna (faith) tungtawn iin, gupna na ngah uh aa, no mau ii ut
          >>> thu
          >>> tawh hilo hi. Pasian hong piak Letsong (gift) ahihi.”
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Hih mun ah en leng, gupna( salvation) ih ngahna pen sepna kihello iin,
          >>> Pasian ii hehpihna hang bek tawh hi cih kimu thei hi. Tua hehpihna
          >>> (grace)
          >>> hang tawh hong kipia gupna (salvation) pen amawkna  letsong ( gift) hi.
          >>> Mi
          >>> khempeuh (Jews, Greeks, thu um mi, thu umlo mi, Hindus, Buddhists,
          >>> Christians, Muslims, etc..etc….) te tung ah kipia hi. Deidanna omlo,
          >>> ciantanna omlo (unconditionally) iin Pasian in hong pia hi. Ahih hang,
          >>> tua
          >>> letsong (gift) pen ei mihing te’n upna (faith) tawh ih san kul hi. Ih san
          >>> kei leh hong pai pa in unconditionally in hong pia zong iin, ei aa hong
          >>> suak
          >>> ngeilo ding hi. Gentehna in, Gal Ngam in Nei No khibah hoih mahmah khat
          >>> letsong  iin pia hi. Nei No in tua letsong asan (accept) leh ama aa suak
          >>> aa,
          >>> asan kei aa leh  Gal Ngam in unconditionally iin apiata zong iin tua
          >>> khibah
          >>> Nei No in nei theilo hi. Cihnopna ah, gupna (salvation) pen hong pia pa
          >>> Pasian lam pan iin ciantan omlo “unconditional” ahih hang iin, gupna
          >>> ngah/ngahlo pen ei mihing te ii sanna (choice) tung ah kinga hi. God’s
          >>> giving of salvation is unconditional. But the effect of salvation on the
          >>> individual is conditional on his/her acceptance.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Tua leh gupna ih san khit ciang kitan kik theimaw?
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Ih gensa  mah bang iin, gupna ih ngahna ( ih neihna) pen ei ii upna tawh
          >>> ih sanna (acceptance through faith)  tung ah ki nga hi. Tua upna (faith)
          >>> pen
          >>> ei telna (choice) hi. Pasian in gupna unconditionally in hong piak hang
          >>> iin,
          >>> upna tawh ih tel (choose) kei leh Aanaa( by force) tawh hong pia tentan
          >>> lo
          >>> hi. Cihnopna ah, gupna pen upna tawh ih san  ciang iin gupna ih ngah/ ih
          >>> nei
          >>> hi. Nuntak tawntungna ih ngah hi. Tua upna (faith) ih neih lai teng gupna
          >>> ki
          >>> ngah/ki nei hi aa, tua upna ih nusiat leh gupna ki ngah/nei nawnlo hi.
          >>> Gupna
          >>> kitan thei cihna hi.  LST in hih bang iin na ci hi:
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> “When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in
          >>> his own righteousness and commits sin, none of his righteous works shall
          >>> be
          >>> remembered; but because of the sin that he has committed, he shall die.
          >>> Again, when I say to the wicked, ‘you shall surely die,’if he turns from
          >>> his
          >>> sin and does what is lawful and right……………….he shall surely live; he
          >>> shall
          >>> not die.” Ezekiel 33: 13-15.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Translation: “Mi dik pa kiang ah na hing taktak ding hi ka ci hi. Ahih
          >>> hang iin, tua pa in ama dikna muang in mawhna abawl leh abeisa aa adikna
          >>> (diktatna) khempeuh ki mangngilh ding aa ama mawhna hang in amah si ding
          >>> hi.
          >>> Tua ban ah, mi mawh pa kiang ah na si taktak ding hi ka cih hang iin,
          >>> amawhna pan iin kisiik kik (kileh kik) aa thupiak te zui iin thuman abawl
          >>> leh amah silo ding aa hing ding hi"
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Hih text en leng, midik ( gupna letsong asang khin) pa/nu pen ama telna
          >>> (choice) tawh a ut hunhun in tua letsong pai/nusia  iin, Pasian kiang pan
          >>> taikhia thei hi cih kimu thei hi. Mi tampi telkhialh John  10:27-29 en
          >>> leng:
          >>> “ My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. And I give
          >>> them eternal life, ……………….neither shall anyone snatch them out of my
          >>> hand…………………, no one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
          >>> Translation: “Ka tuu te’n ka aw za/thei hi. Amau te ka thei aa amau te’n
          >>> ka
          >>> nung hong zui uh hi. Amau te nuntak tawntungna ka pia hi………. Kua mah in
          >>> ka
          >>> khut sungpan lakhia lo ding hi………, kua mah in ka Pa’ khutsung pan lakhia
          >>> zolo ding hi.”
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Pasian in letsong aa hong piak gupna(Salvation) pen upna (faith) tawh ih
          >>> san (choose) ciang iin,( ei dikna merit  bang mah a om loh hang)  Pasian
          >>> in
          >>> mawh hong mai sak iin gupna ih ngah hi. Tua ciang iin, Pasian’tuu (sheep)
          >>> ih
          >>> suak hi.  Pasian’tuu ih hih lai teng kua mah in Pasian khut sung pan hong
          >>> lakhia zolo hi. Ahih hang iin, Pasian’ tuu (sheep) hihna pen ei ii tel
          >>> kul
          >>> hi. Pasian’ tuu ih hihna pan iin ei ii telna
          >>>
          >>> ( choice) tawh taikhia iin kel (goat) kisuak thei hi. ( Ezekiel 33: 13 na
          >>> en kik in).
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Upna (faith) pen atawntung aa ih nei ding kisam hi. Upna pen ni khat sung
          >>> um thei iin, a zing ciang ki umnawnlo thei hi. Cihnopna ah, Pasian ih
          >>> upna
          >>> pen atawntung, ih sih dong  ih pom leh bek  tawntung nuntakna /gupna
          >>> (salvation) ngah ding ih hihi. “But he who endures to the end shall be
          >>> saved.” Translation: “Atawp dong aa akip te in gupna a ngah ding uh
          >>> hi.”(Matt. 24:13). Saul kumpi pa hunkhat sung Pasian tawh kizom iin anung
          >>> ciang iin Pasian nusia hi. Judas zong hunkhat sung Topa Jesu tawh kizom
          >>> iin
          >>> anung ciang iin lehhek hi.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> “Khazih manlo leh kamsang manlo te hong pai ding aa  na lamdang te hong
          >>> bawl iin, ahih theih leh telsa (gupna ngahsa) te na ngawn hong khem ding
          >>> uh
          >>> hi.” Matt. 24:24.  Gupna ngahsa te tan theinawnlo ding chance om kei  leh
          >>> Satan iin khem sawmlo ding hi. Akhem zawh nang hanciam lai ahih teh gupna
          >>> tanthei ding “chance” omlai cihna hi.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Atom iin, gupna (salvation) pen ih san (accept) khit ciang ih sih dong ih
          >>> kep kei leh kitan thei hi ( atung aa text te en kik in). “Khatvei gupna
          >>> ih
          >>> san (accept) khit teh  bangbang ih sem zong in kitan thei nawnlo”  (Once
          >>> saved always saved) cih pen Lai Siangtho in genlo hi. Thu hilhna man hilo
          >>> hi. Satan khemna ahihman iin, Pasian kammal tawh do iin gualzo tek ni.
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>> Deihsakna tawh,
          >>>
          >>> Jeffrey Pau
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
          >>>
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          Hoih thei mahmah ei. Hong han ciam lai Ooo. Sangaa, TX US
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            Hoih thei mahmah ei. Hong han ciam lai Ooo.

            Sangaa, TX US

            On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:05 AM, suang dal<suangdal@...> wrote:
            >
            >
            >
            > Tatkhiatna kingah lo thei hi. Ahih hangh kitaan thei lo (Romans 8: 29-30)
            >
            >
            >  Once save always save cih a pheeng gente hangin Biblical truth ahi once
            > save always save cih thu ii za ah za thumaan ahihna lunghiang pih lai zang
            > kei in. Pasian in a mite khahsuah thei hi muanhuai lo hi ci-a Satan in a
            > thumaan thu mah tawh ih pukna ding aa a techque ong toknawina hi. Tua
            > techque pen Satan ih ama mite mah one save always save a cih sak hang hi. In
            > the contact of God, once save always save is true but in the contact of
            > Satan it is deceitful.
            >
            >
            >
            > Tatkhiatna pen ih ngah khit tehh kitaan thei nawn lo hi. Thu khat ah,
            > tatkhiatna ngah takpi maw ngahtakpi lo cih bel kidot huai pen hi. Tua ih
            > kikup nop thu pen tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh kitaan thei maw cih thu hi lo
            > zaw-in, tatkhiatna kingah lo thei cih hi zaw hi. Khat veivei mihing te thu
            > kikumkum pong mawk na pi-in a phi (the answer to the question) ah ih kibat
            > lohna pen dotna maan lo (wrong question) hang na hi gige thei hi. Tua ahih
            > manin a masa pen in dotna maan (right question) a dong thei ih hih masak
            > ding zong thupi hi.
            >
            > Tua ih kikup nop pen Tatkhiatna a ngah lo te’n bang hang ngah lo? Tatkhiatna
            > a ngah te in koici bang in ngah cih thu hi zaw hi. Thuma (before the event)
            > ii thu tawh kipat ding hi zaw hi. Not after the event. Tatkhiatna,
            > gupkhiatna ngah khit tehh taan kik thei maw cih pen (un qualified question)
            > ahi hi. It is still a question. But the question itself is unqualified for
            > its answer.
            >
            > Ezekiel 33:11-15 le Matt 23: 37na te pawl pen Tatkhiatna ngah theihna ding
            > aa, kisik kikna Pasian in a kalhna hi. (This text is for unbelievers). A
            > piangthak khin mite tungah hah genna hi lo zaw hi. Tatkhiat gupkhiat ngah
            > khit ciang aa ding thu a genna hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ma aa mimawh
            > pa/nu in a mawhna a kisik kei leh ngah lo ding ahihna tona challenge na hi
            > zaw hi. Tatkhiatna na ngah khit ciang aa tona challenge na hi lo zaw hi.
            > Kipia khin ngah khin aa sut kik aa taan sak kik cih peuh mah pen Pasian’
            > nasep hi thei lo hi. Ginat loh vai lua mahmah hi. Ih theih dingah Christ
            > effectual calling cih khawng thupi hi. Romans 8: 30na ah “whom he called he
            > also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified” na ci ngiat
            > hi. Romans 9: 11na ah God’s purpose of election might continue, not because
            > of works but because of his call na ci hi. Tatkhiatna pen na kipatcil in
            > ngah takpi maw ngahtak pi lo cih tawh kidot huai zaw hi. Kuate in tatkhiatna
            > taan thei hiam cih leh  a um lo a saang lote in taan thei bek-a a um a saang
            > te in taan cih bang om thei lo zaw-in saangin ngah hi cih thu hi zaw hi. A
            > taktak in ci rehang tatkhiatna taan cih taktak zong kua in thei ih hiam?
            > Pasian bekin thei hi. Ahih hangh ih theih dingah Khrih in muibun effective
            > aa a sap mite piangthak (true converted) takpi ding aa, tua kisikna maan
            > tawh pianthakna (conversion with true repentance) ahih nak lelah taan kik
            > cih bang om thei lo hi. Ih piaksa sut kik kei peuh rehang ih piak pa in ngah
            > suak hamtang hi. Tua ahih manin Pasian in ong piaksa ong sut kik ngei lo pa
            > hi. Ih theih dingah Pasian in a sap loh mi-in um lungdamna thu hong um thei
            > thei lo ding uh hi. Philippian 2: 13na for it is God who works in you, both
            > to will and to work for his good pleasure na ci hi. A nuai ah ih kikup ding
            > pen piaksa suh kikna taan kikna vai hi lo zawin, kua te in tua a kipia
            > letsong ngah thei aa, kua te in ngah lo thei hiam? Cih hi zaw hi. Hong kipia
            > naakhat saang kei lecin na ngah ding a taan khol khin na hi ta hi. A taan
            > kik ih cih te zong a kipat aa a lungsim le kha tawh sang tak pi lo cihna hi.
            > Na keel luphum hong kidawk ve leh! A saang taktak lo na hihna hong ki dawk
            > ve leh cih ding hi zaw hi. Tua pen a ngah takpisa a taan cih ding hi lo
            > zaw-a, a tung a kipat aa a ngah takpi a saang tak pi lo na hi ve leh cih
            > ding hi zaw hi. Ka saang ka ngah na cih pong mawk hangin na zuaupi ahi ve
            > leh. Singkung a gah in kithei ih cihcih tua daan aive cih ding hi.. Pasian
            > in thu-ummite’ tatkhiatna ong kep cing sakna thu-ummite ii thuakzawhna, ih
            > khona le cihtakna ah kilang hi. God’s preservation is evidenced in true
            > believers’ perseverance.
            >
            > John 10: 26, 27na aa, “…note pen keima tuu hilo na hih manun Khrih ka hih
            > lam na hong um kei uh hi. Keima tuute in ka aw za-in thei uh ahih manin kei
            > hong zui uh hi” a cihna ah, Jesuh tuu te na hi uh leh, um ding uh hi.
            > Banghang hiam cih leh upna pen Khrih’ tuu hihna ii gah ahi hi. Faith is one
            > of their marks. Actually, not being Christ’s sheep was not the Cause of the
            > unbelief of the Jews, but their unbelief was the evidence that they were not
            > Christ’s sheep.
            >
            >
            >
            > Upna nangawn ei aa hi lo (faith itself is the gift of God…Eph. 2: 8)
            >
            > Faith is objective. Not subjective. Upna cih pen mimawh pa’ pua lam pan aa a
            > sung lamah kipia thu hi zaw hi. Ama sung lam pan aa kipan tawm hi lo zaw hi.
            > A tom in gen rehang a um mite pen amau le amau hoihna tawh a um thei hi
            > lo-in, a um lo mite ahih leh amau le amau kibawl tawm ahi hi. (Akilamdanna
            > na theih zawh nang na hanciam in). Mangpau in tom gen mahmah rehang
            > (election and reprobate).Upna ih cih pen Pasian Kha Siangtho’ ong sepsak hi.
            > Zechariah 4: 6 “It is not by might or by power, but by my Spirit”…Ama Kha
            > tha bekmah tawh hi hang. John 1: 12, 13na ah “Tua bangin Pasian tate suahna
            > pen leitung ngeina nute pate sung panin suahna tawhh hi lo-in Pasian sung
            > panin suahna ahi hi…nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but
            > of God ci hi. Um cih pen sepna hi lo hi. Na up ding pen ahi ding mah ahi hi.
            > Ahi ding mah ahi naa te pan-a pua pialna in leitungah problem piangsak hi.
            > Ih Problem pen mawhna (sin) hi. Ih mawhna pan’n ih kisik kik ciangh in zong
            > a zian a ngah kikpan hi hangh. Romans 4: 4ff.
            >
            > Ephesians 2:8-10na ah For by grace you have been saved through faith. And
            > this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so
            > that no one may boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus
            > for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
            >
            > Theih pak ding ah, tatkhiatna pen sepna tawh hi lo hi. Zong kitaan thei lo
            > hi ih cih ciangh ut bangbang aa gamta ding cih nopna hi lo hi. Mihing te pen
            > tatkhiat ngah tawh ngah lo tawh, tatkhiat ngah khin tawh ngah nai lo tawh ih
            > vek aa, kuamah hoih zo tuan vet lo ih hih manin, hoihna dikna le hahkatna
            > tawh tatkhiatna kingah in tatkhiatna kitaan hi cih thu a maan lohna thu LST
            > in a gen nuam ahi zaw hi. Tua hangin Upna bek tawh hi zaw hi a ci ih hi hi.
            > Tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh kingah lo-in hahkat lohna tawh zong kitaan
            > tuan lo hi. Kam dang khatin gen rehang tatkhiatna pen hahkat zawhna tawh
            > zong kingah beh tuan lo hi. Upna nangawn Pasian letsong hi lai hi a cihna
            > thu a kithei sak nuam ih hi. Na telsiam dingin ong lamen ingh.
            >
            >
            >
            > CALVINSIM AND ARMINIANSIM THU TAWM
            >
            > TULIP a kici John Calvin in Jacob Arminius le a pawl te ii LST upna laigil
            > pi pan aa paikhialhna Remonstrain tungtaang aa Jocob Arminius ii 1610 kum
            > aa, his five points of doctrine pen John Calvin in 1619 aa Synot of Dot pan
            > aa LST based aa Jacob Arminius ii five points a dawnna the five points of
            > Calvin pen TULIP kici hi.
            >
            > T= Total depravity (mihing khempeuh sia khin. Mawh khin)
            > U= Unconditional election (hoihna, dikna le sepna condition tungtawn hilo. A
            > kiteel mite kua te cih eite in thei lo ihih manin tua ih theih kholh loh
            > Pasian bekin a theih a teelsa mite tungah lungdamna thu gen ding ih tavuan)
            > L= Limited atonement (or particular atonement)—Deihna nei sihna (A telsa
            > mite aa ding bek aa Jesuh singlamteh tungah si cihna. Kamdang khat in gen
            > rehang a ummite le a hong um lai ding mite Pasian teel te na hi gige pah)
            > I= Irresistible grace  (Pasian’ hehpihna pen kinolh thei lo. Pasian’
            > hehpihna pen nang hanciam zawh thu tawh na ngah hi lo cihna)
            > P= Perseverance of the saints (Thu ummite’ khona. A tawp dong cihtaakna cih
            > ding hi. God preservation is evidenced in the believers’ perseverance. But
            > believer’s perseverance is not the cause for preservation/ salvation) cih
            > ding hi.
            >
            > Hi thu pan-a, Calvinism le Arminian cih thu hong piang hi.
            >
            > Calvin doctrine le Arminius doctrine pen number 3thumna le 4lina pan kithu
            > kimlo pha diak hi. Arminius ii Unlimited atonement (general atonement)
            > Calvin in Biblical sa lo ahih manin Limited atonement (particular atonement
            > kammal) tawh dawng hi
            >
            > Arminius ii Resistible grace pen biblical sa lo ahih manin Calvin in
            > Irresistible grace cih kammal tawh na dawng hi. Five points of Calvin pen
            > five points of Arminius tungah dawnna hi aa, five points of Calvinist pen
            > five points of Arminius om kei leh a om lo ding ahi hi. Arminius in numbat
            > thumna tungtawnin bang gen hiam cih leh Jesuh ong sihna pen mi khempeuh aa
            > ding hi cih daan hi. Salvation made possible. Salvation is not certain cih
            > hi pha diak hi. God has done his part. Now is your turn cih peuh hi ziauziau
            > hi. Tatkhiatna pen mihing tungah kinga zaw in Pasian tungah kinga lo zaw hi
            > ci hi. Tua ciangh numbat lina tungtawn aa Arminius genna ah hehpihna pen
            > Pasian in by force tawh ong pia lo hi eimau ih san leh bek kingah hi ci. Hih
            > Ariminian teachings pen Pelagianism a kici Nicene Creed ih cih te ii heresy
            > ci aa a ki condemned upna pan aa hong piang khia hi. Buddhism teaching mah
            > bang aa human effort tawh salvation kingah cih daan hi mawk hi. LST sungah
            > Pasian in salvation belongs to God ci hi. John 2: 9; Rev 7: 10 and many
            > others verses in the bible. LST ih et tehh Pasian in active tak aa nang le
            > kei salvation ding a sepna kilang mahmah hi. Beyond our understanding the
            > Holy Spirit is working in us from the beginning to the end. Salvation pen
            > eimau hanciamna tawh ngah in eimau perfect lohna genbaan lohna tawh kitaan
            > kik thei cih LST in gen hi leh kuamah vantung gam tung lo ding hi hang.
            > Mihing te pen ih sih ma-dong mawhna tawh kipeng kua mah om zo lo ding hi
            > hangh. You will die sinning. Only the blood of Jesus will save you. Nothing
            > but the blood of Jesus! Faith alone is our victory not by your perfection.
            >
            >
            >
            > Special grace and common grace
            >
            > Pasian hehpihna pen a teel mite bekin nolh kik zawh loh-in ngah ding hi. Tua
            > pen special grace kici hi. Common grace pen thu umlo mite in zong ngah hi.
            > Leitung hauhna, nitang le guah tui te zong ih ngah khawm hi. 2 Thessalonians
            > 2: 13, 14na ah Paul in Pasian in note hong teel ahih manin lungdam na ka ko
            > tawntung hi ci hi. God chooses you from the beginning for your salvation.
            > Election granted salvation. Pasian in Pharoh lungtang ka khauhsak hi ci hi.
            > Ahih hangin a lungtang a khauhsak bek hi a, mawhna a bawlsak pen Pasian hi
            > lo hi. God’s hardening the heart doesn’t mean he cause them to sin. Hoihna
            > peuh mah Pasian hang hi-a, siatna peuhmah nang hang hi. In the case of good
            > God is directing. But in the case of evil God is over-ruling. God actually
            > takes the initiative. God plans and God accomplishes. Election granted our
            > repentance and salvation. And election leads to holiness… Eph. 1. But
            > holiness is not the cause that saves you.
            >
            > Ahih hangin salvation pen eimau ih saan leh ngah bekin eimau mah in ih
            > khahsuah leh kitaan kik thei a cite in “tua bang ahih leh teltuamna ih cih
            > in Pasian mi deidan pa suah hi ci uh hi.” Hi te pen Arminian te kici hi.
            > Human free will tawh salvation kingah ci hi. A nu a pa a u anau aading
            > thungetsak leh vantung gam tung ding ci uh hi. Nget zawh thu tawh kingah hi
            > cih bul phuh hi. Tua ahih manin thu a nget uh tehh Topa aw ka pa ong
            > tatkhiat sak in cih daan hi pah hi. Tua leh Pasian in tua Arminian pa
            > kiangah tua na thungetsak na pa zong free will khensatna pia ka hih manin
            > ama khensat bang hi zaw henla, nang thu ngetsakna tawh hi kei zaw hen. Amah
            > zong nang mah bangin free will ka pia khin hi ci zeel ding hi. Hyper
            > Calvinist ih cih te leuleu in ei nget thu tawh salvation kingah hi lo ahih
            > tehh thunget kul vet kei. Pasian thu zong taangko kul vet kei ci zel hi. Hi
            > nih kikaal ah reformation kisam hi. Thu nget ding hi-a, human free will/
            > human agency cihte in zong a ma dinmun maan right place nei hi. Arminian te
            > in Pasian teeltuamna le it tuamna thu nial uh hi. A taktak in ci rehang “man
            > in sin refuses to repent, to believe in Jesus”. Actually no one should be
            > saved. We all are deserved for condemnation. The fact is without election no
            > one will be saved. Election should not be negative. Ataktak in ci rehang
            > mihing te in ei le ei tawh a kisik kik thei lo a um thei lo hell lam zuan
            > tum khin ih hi hi. Ahi zongin mawh nei mi nang le kei tua Pasian teeltuamna
            > it tuamna hangin hong kitan khia khin hi. Amen!
            >
            > Like Wesley you may deny election on your head but in your heart you believe
            > election. Na lu in teeltuamna a nial hangin na lungtangin um veve ding hi.
            >
            >
            >
            > Lei pian ma pek aa hong  kiteel maw? Favoritism?
            >
            > Calvinist ih cih te in Pasian in teel khol hi. Sehh khol hi. It khol hi.
            > Pasian in lei pian ma pekin hong teel khin hi ci uh…Ephessians 1: 4ff. God
            > loved beforehand. God foreknew Pasian in ma theih hi ci uh. Pasian in sem
            > masa den ci uh. God always takes the initiative of all ci uh. Tua ahih manin
            > Pasian teelsa mite beek in hong um thei ding ci uh. Hi pen election prior to
            > faith kici hi. Arminian te in tua pen Pasian thumaan lo suah uh tehh. Pasian
            > in tua bangin miteel khol leh a teel te bekin um leh taza lo hi legitimate
            > lo hi ci uh. A um thei te bek a teel ding hi ci uh. Arminian te genna ah
            > Pasian in a teel ma pekin kua te in upna na nei uh cih na ma theih khol ci
            > uh. Hi pen Faith prior to God’s election kici hi. Arminian te genna ah upna
            > ih neih leh bek Pasian in hong teel hi ci uh. Tua mi nu mi pa in upna nei a
            > hih manin um ding hi cih thu Pasian in ana ma theih hi bek hi ci.  Prior to
            > election, God has foreseen faith in those who will believe prior to election
            > cih daan hi. Hi lai mun ah Calvinist te leuleu in Pasian in tua upna amah le
            > amah aa a nei thei tawm te bek teel ahih leh upna a nei lo te teel lo ahih
            > manin taza lo hi legitimate lo hi ci. Pasian pen condition sepna bawlna
            > tungah kinga in a hoih te teel in a hoih lo te a teel lo hi mawk hi ci.
            > Pasian guat loh in kuamah in Pasian tawh kilem kik theihna ding upna nei lai
            > zang lo hi ci uh. Tua ahih manin upna sangin teeltuamna masa zaw hi. Pasian
            > kiang lam pan kipan zaw-in mihing lampan eimau neih tawm tawh kipat theih
            > bangmah om ngei lo hi. Banghang hiam cih leh piansak te ih hi hi. Hi
            > Armnians te gen daan pen favoratism angvantuam neihna kici zaw hi ci uh.
            > Favoratism cihteh Pasian in angvan tuam nei sak uh tehh kicih tuakna hi.
            > Actually, if someone (an Arminian) has faith whom God saw as if he has faith
            > prior to God’s election, and if that is the reason chosen by God is
            > favoritism.
            >
            >
            >
            > Romans 8: 29-30na
            >
            > Pasian’ Tapa mi khempeuh lakah a upa pen a suah theihna dingin Pasian in a
            > tel kholhsa mite, a Tapa tawh a kibang dingin a sehsa ahi hi. Tua ahih manin
            > ama sap mite a sehsa hi a, ama sap mite amah tawh a kipawlin bawl a, amah
            > tawh a kipawl-a a bawl mite ama minthan’na zong a hawm hi. Ephessians 1: 4na
            > ah “Ama mai ah eite pen pauban’na a nei lo, mi siangthote ahi ding le Khrih
            > hangin ama mite ahi dingin leitung a pian’ ma pek nangawnin Pasian in a hong
            > telsa ih hi hi” na ci hi. Apat pan a tawp dong a nasep a zo tiuteu Pasian ih
            > biak khak manin ki paak mahmah hangh. Hih LST munin Pasian theihkholna
            > telkholna le sehkholna thu kician tak in gen hi. Nang le nang question na
            > kidongdong lecin Pasian’ tung vive tu kik ding hi. Pasian pen a beisa bek ah
            > nasem pa hi lo hi. Abeisa, tuhun le hong tung ding hun khempeuh ah nasem pa
            > hi. Salvation has a past reference (Eph 2: 8) and is a present experience (1
            > Cor 1: 18) and is a future hope (Romans 5: 9). Hong kitatkhiatna thu na
            > theih khiat, na experience khiat ciangin nang sep hi lo-in nang tungah hong
            > kisem a thei khia a phawk khia na hi lel hi. Na ci hong kimeek sak leh ka
            > cih hong kimeek hi cih na up loh a phamawh ahi hi. Tatkhiatna kitel khia ing
            > cih zong tua daan aa kiphawkna na hi bek lel hi. Na sepna tawh tatkhiatna a
            > ngah na hi peuh mah kei hi. Na tung aa hong kisem na up loh a phamawh na
            > upna tawh tatkhiatna a ngah na hi hi. Tua bangin nang tungah ong kisep
            > ciangin na um thei hi. The wonderful work of God in the Lord Jesus preceded
            > all of our experience (2Cor 5: 17-19).
            >
            > Pasian in a sehsa mite a kitatkhiat theihna dingin lampi honkhiat sakin
            > sam-a, tua asapsa mite a Tapa’ sisan tawh tankhia a, tua atatsa mite
            > khempeuh zong aminthan pih lai ding hi. Ih theih dingah tatsa mite pen hong
            > ki gupgup laitak hi. They are being sanctified by the Holy Spirit. Ih theih
            > lai dingah tatkhiatna den lam ciangh zong hong ngah lai ding om hi. A ngah
            > lai ding tu laitak a ngah nai lo deuh zong om zihziah lai hi. Naungek zong a
            > suak nai lo le a suaksa a om mah bang ahi hi. Tua ahih manin hih tatkhiatna
            > pen kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cihna ah, dotna question ih kidop mahmah
            > kisam hi. Tatkhiatna pen atung a kipat thu tawh kisai hi. A kipat aa na ngah
            > takpi le na ngah takpi loh thu tawh kisai zaw hi. Na ngah takpi leh taan cih
            > bang om nawn lo hi. Na ngah takpi hiam cih thupi zaw hi. Saul te Judas te
            > pen a pat cil lim aa a maan lo a mau le amau ki khem te na hi uh hi. True
            > repentance true conversion ahih nak leh atawp dong kho ding hi. A tawp dong
            > a kho kei leh a patna pen true repentance true conversion tawh kipan lo
            > cihna hi. A tawp dong khona pen a kipatna a maanna hang na hi zaw hi.
            > Justification and sanctification hi nih pen Christian te in a Christian
            > nuntaakna ah a tuak loh uh a phamawh thu nih hi. Sanctification is the fruit
            > of justification not vice versa. Ih Christian nisim nuntaakna ah Kha
            > Siangtho tha bek tawh ih kalsuan hi. Gup mi hihna pen tatkhiatna ii gah ahi
            > hi. Tatsa mite a nisim nuntakna ah a gamtatna uh a kipuah phatphat laitak uh
            > ahi hi. Ahi zongin tua gamtat kipuah phatna pen tatkhiat ngahna hi lo hi.
            > Gamtatna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo hi. Ih gamtatna in tatkhiatna ngah mi ih
            > hihna a kilang sak hi zaw hi. Tatkhiat ngah khit tehh ki perfect ki genbaang
            > lo pah ding cihna zong hi lo hi. The more you feel guilt you are the more
            > becoming holier. Don’t try to take baptism again. Na mawhna pan siangthona
            > lamah na kah toh simin tui kiphum kik ding hi lo hi. Mihing te pen a mawh pi
            > mah aa kisi lai ding hi. Tatkhiatna ii gah ahi gupkhiatna ih khah suah leh
            > kitaan kik ding cih a thumaan ahih mawk leh mi khempeuh hell tung mang ding
            > hi. Pasian na sem lian Moses David cih te zong a hun nunung ta uh ciangh puk
            > uh hi. Nang zong na hun nunung lamah puk beh lai ding hiteh. Ahi zongin tua
            > na pukna tawh vangam na taan kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin kuamah perfection
            > ih cih genbanlohna tawh vangtung gam kitung lo ding hi. A gen bangpipi mah
            > in Topa’ ong tatsa ih hi hi. Praise the Lord! Ahi zongin kuamah perfect lo
            > cih pen ih paulap ding hi lo zel hi. Tatsa mite pen ih cihtakna ih gamtat
            > hoihna te Topa aa ding aa ih faithful na te tawh kituakin letsong (rewards)
            > hong kipia lai ding hi. So be faithful. Tua ih san ding letsong te pen
            > hotkhiatna, tatkhiatna le gupkhiatna hong pia vangam hong tun the Cause a
            > bulpi pen hi lo zel hi. Once save always save cih pen a thumaan hi. Jesuh in
            > ka Pa in kei hong piak tuute kuamah in ka khut sung pan la khia zo lo ding
            > ci hi. A thupoi ah mipoi pawl khat in tua Once save always save pen olzat in
            > kimawlna bangin a zat uh te thu ummite linglawng lungka sak uh hi. Linglawng
            > lungkaat ding hi zenzen lo hi. Tatkhiatna ngah khit ciangh taan kik nawn lo
            > cih kammal once save always save pen thu umlo mite in zong pheng gen ziau
            > thei mah hi. A gen thu uh maan aa, a hih hang amau tungah piang lo kha ding
            > hi. Kam in ih zuih zawh loh pih thu zong thukimin pau thei hi. Ahih hang a
            > kipau khia thu pen a thumaan na hi lel hi.
            >
            >
            >
            > Piakna le Saanna gentehna
            >
            > Gentehna minthang mahmah khat. Mi thum om dingin tua te’ lakah lingmaw
            > (oranges) pum thum kipia ding. Nih te gel in saangin a khat pa in sang lo la
            > lo ahih manin ngah lo hi. Tua mah bangin tatkhiatna zong a saang te bekin
            > ngah in a saang lo te in ngah lo hi cih thu ahi hi. Hi lai mun ah qualified
            > question khat kidong thei hi. Tua mite lakah tua lingmaw a sang lo pa pen
            > liiphiat ih cih khut zaw cidam lo khat ahih man-a sang lo na hi leh e? Tua
            > khut zaw pa in tua lingmaw a kipiak hang saang thei lo ding hi. Tua khut zaw
            > cidam lo pa pen nang le kei ih hihi. Mi mawh ih hi khin hi.
            > Corruption-Original sin, Guilt imputed sin cih te hangin mihing te a si ih
            > hi hi. Sing hiang khat a kung tung pan na lak khiat cil-in a hing lai mah
            > bang lel hi. Ahih hangin a kungpi tawh kikhen khia khin ahih manin tua
            > singhiang pen a hing a bat sesat laipong hangin a sikhin ahi hi. Nang le kei
            > tua bang dinmun ah ih om hi. Hih theihna bang mah ih nei kei hi. A si pi ih
            > hi hi. Lingmaw a saang thei lo khut zaw pa tawh ih kibang hi. Pasian tawh a
            > kikhen khin te ih hi hi. Tua ahih manin Jesuh in Matthew 9: 12, 13na ah
            > “Cidam te in syavuan kisam lo uh a, cina mite bek in kisam uh hi…Mite in a
            > zahtak mi hoihte a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi kei a, mite in a pampaih mite
            > a sam dingin a hong pai ka hi hi,” a ci hi. Jesuh pen tua lingmaw a sang
            > thei mi nih te’ aading aa ong pai hi lo zaw in tua lingmaw a sang thei lo
            > cidam lopa khut zaw pa mawhna sungah a si cip nang le kei aa ding aa ong pai
            > hi zaw hi. Jesuh in ong sepsak khin hi. It is finished! (John 19: 30). Ei
            > thu-mu mite tatkhiat ngah kician mite pen hong kihon khia khin hong kitan
            > khia khin hong kigupgup laitak hong kisian suahsuah laitak hi. I have been
            > saved for justification and have been justified and am being sanctified and
            > will be glorified yet. In other word, I have been saved and am being saved
            > and will be saved yet. Tatkhiatna ka ngah theihna dingin Pasian in ka nun
            > lui Egypt gam pan lampi hong sial pih in san tuipi na ngawn kantan in hong
            > hon khia aa, a tawpna ah a Tapa Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia in tu
            > laitakin a hong sawlpa Kha Siangtho in ong sian suahsuah laitak a ong gupgup
            > laitak ka hi hi.
            >
            >
            >
            > Thum lakah mihing te’ aading aa a thupi pen
            >
            >  Thum gawm Pasian sungah Tapa kilaitaat. Christ center saving grace. Thum aa
            > kikhen hun (time) past+present+future sungah tuhun (the present time) ki
            > laitaat. Hotkhiatna (Salvation plan by God the Father), Tatkhiatna
            > (Justification/ Redemption accomplished by God the Son) le Gupkhiatna
            > (Santification renew or awakening or sealed or adopted or led or guide or
            > illumine or regenerated by the Holy Spirit) (hih the three components of
            > saving event in Zolai contact) ah Tatkhiatna kilaaitaat hi. OT Egypt gam pan
            > san tuipi kantan aa hotkhiatna in NT Topa Jesuh tatkhiatna kawk bek hi. Tu
            > hun Kha Siangtho hun gupkhiatna nasepna ih cih te in zong Tapa tatkhiatna a
            > siksan kei leh gupkhiatna man lo ahi hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ih hih lam ih
            > kitel ding ih ngah ding hun pen zing ciang ci se ken ze kai niteh. The
            > present time is the most important. Tu ni tu hun ding hi. Pilna (knowledge),
            > Ciimna(Wisdom) le Siamna (Giftedness) hi thum lakah Ciimna (Wisdom) mah
            > thupi pen. Inn (house), Baangkua (home) le innkuan (family) hi thum sungah
            > baangkua (home) mah thupi pen hi.
            >
            > Pasian’ ciimna in eite tu hun tu mahmahin hong tankhia-in vantung baangkua
            > pi ah hong tun pih thei hi. Cihnopna ah a thum in a thupi tek ahih hangin a
            > laimu a mu zo taktak ding mi kikhaat mahmah hi cih a gen nuam ih hi hi.
            >
            >
            >
            > Hotkhiatna, Tatkhiatna le Gupkhiatna
            >
            > Zomi te in hi kammal thum te eimau kammal ahih lam ih phawk phat ding kisam
            > hi. Honkhia cih tehh mi khat peuhpeuh a tawp dong tavuan (mawhpuak) na laak
            > sak lohh ding hang honkhia pak thei hi tehh. Gumkhia cih tehh nang ta nang
            > nau ahih nak leh gum hamtang  cihna hi lel hi. Tankhia cih kammal pen
            > honkhia cih le gumkhia cih sangin a thu thuk zawkna a mui but zawkna Zomi
            > Zolai siam te in ih thei sa hi pah hi. Tankhia cih pen ama nuntaakna mahmah
            > tawh tankhia a sisan tawh ong tankhia cihna hi. Luang sawng hi. Topa Jesuh
            > in eite ong tankhia hi. Hih tatkhiatna laigil thu pen LST Romans sungah lim
            > gen mahmah hi. Tua pen Justification by faith cih thu ahi hi. Hih
            > Justification by faith pen redemption zong kici thei ding hi. Salvation pen
            > hotkhiatna hi-a, biakna dang te in zong salvation sense nei uh hi. Ei
            > Christian te salvation a tumdang sak pen the Justification by Faith ahi hi.
            > Romans 1: 17na ah “The righteous/ just shall live by faith” na ci ngeu hi.
            > Pasian’ mai ah dik ih tan theihna pen upna hang bek tawh ahi hi.
            >
            > Tatkhiatna kihel lo hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna nam ahi Buhhism hotkhiatna,
            > Hinduism le Muslim hotkhiatna te in a si cih ding hi. Christian te in zong
            > hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna ih gengen hangin Jesuh ong tatkhiatna ahi
            > Justification by Grace through faith Alone pen a kihel kei leh a si pi ahi
            > hi. Tatkhiatna thu ah hotkhiatna le gupkhiatna kihel hamtang aa, gupkhiatna
            > le hotkhiatna ih cih sungah tatkhiatna kihel lo gige thei hi. Baptists
            > believe Justifiction is the only cause of our sancitfication not vice virsa.
            > But RCs believe sanctification in the reason you will be justified.
            > Justification le sanctification thu a tel te in telsiam pah ding hi. Ei
            > Zopau in Justification pen tatkhiatna hi. Sanctification pen gupkhiatna hi.
            > Hi munah hih thu nih ii thu ih ki tam kup man kei ding hi. Pasian’s sap mite
            > bek kitankhia aa (John 6: 44, 45 No one can come to Me unless he Father who
            > sent Me draws him), tua a kitankhia mite Kha Siangtho nasepna tawh a nisim
            > nuntaakna tung tawnin kigumkhia kisian suah ki sanctified aa, ahi zongin tua
            > hong ki sanctified siansuah gupkhiatna pen tatkhiatna a hong ngahsak thumasa
            > pen hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna (justification) precedes gupkhiatna
            > (sanctification). Gupkhiatna ih cih tua sanctification pen eimau thu ummi
            > pa/nu le Kha Siangtho kipawl khawm aa sepna kici thei hi. Ahih hangin tua
            > siansuahna ah khanna (growth) pen gumpa Kha Siangtho nasep mah hi kik zel in
            > mihing sepna hang hi lo lai hi.
            >
            >
            >
            > Upna le Tatkhiatna
            >
            > Romans 5: 10na ah” Pasian tawh eite ih kilang neih lai takin ama Tapa sihna
            > hangin amah tawh hong kilemsak ahih leh tu-in Pasian tawh kipawl khinta ihih
            > manin Khrih’ nuntaakna in eite bangzahin hong honkhia zo zaw kan ding ahi
            > hiam? Cihnopna ah Jesuh Khrih in a sisan tawh ong tankhia khin  ahih leh
            > tatsa mite ih puk zel laina pan-in hong kihon khia lua lai ding cihna kilang
            > pah hi. Pasian in ka mite a puk hangin ka phong kik ding hi ci hi. In
            > English to understand this text: believing does not save me—I simply realize
            > believing saves me. (I am not saved by believing—I simply realize I am saved
            > by believing. And it is not repentance that saves me—repentance is only the
            > sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus. Romans 4: 4na ah
            > “ Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his
            > due. And not the one who does not work but trust him who justifies the
            > ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness. Cihnopna ah: ahi ding bang
            > aa ih nuntaakna pen sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi ding bang aa
            > nuntaak lohna pen sepna hi se hi. Tatkhiatna ih ngahna dingin mihing na hoih
            > kisem thei lo-a, ahi zongin tatkhiatna ngah lohna dingin na hoih lo kisem
            > thei se hi. Mihing te sepna in sihna piang sak thei bek hi. Pasian in an ne
            > ding aa a nungta ding aa hong bawl kimlai an ni 40 ne kei lecin na si ding
            > hi. Ne kei lecin si ding. Ne lecin si lo ding cihna ah, ahi ding bang aa
            > nuntaakna pen ahi ding mah ahih manin sepna kici thei lo hi. Ahi zongin a hi
            > ding thu a hi lo na suah citciat leh tua pen out of tune, out of order ahih
            > manin tua pen nang ma mawh puak sepna hi ta hi. Pasian in Khrih ong
            > tatkhiatna ih up ding ong kalhna pen a hi ding mah ahih manin ka upna zong
            > sepna hi ven cih theih ding hi lo hi. Na upna na ngawn na sepna aa kal nuam
            > na hi leh nang kuan hong piangsak cih kidong pah lecin. Na mi pumpi mahmah
            > hong bawl ong piangsak pa Pasian ahi hi. Nang le nang na kipiangsak thei kei
            > ding hi. Upna ih cih mahmah zong Pasian’ letsong ahi hi. Mimawh ih hih lam
            > za ah za ih kitel masiah upna ii thupiitna ii thupi saan (appreciate) thei
            > kei ding hi. Mimawh na hih lam, mi kicingtaak lo na hih lam, deih pen a bang
            > zo nai lo na hih lam na kitel zahzah bekin mi hoih na hihna hong khansuah
            > ding hi. Na kihawm thawh semsem leh a hoih semsem cihna ahi hi. Zan hun khua
            > mial hun ciangh mei tang neh semsem rehang ih pum tung ih puan tung aa nin
            > baang kimu semsem hi. Mimawh ih hih lam za ah za kitelna tawh kampau thu
            > genin gamta rehang ih societies kipawlna te ih veng ih paam le ih gam hong
            > nuam pan ding hi mawk hi. Ih veng le paam sung kipawlna a noplohna, Kawlgam
            > zum pai ciangh a nop lohna, Christ makaai te kiangah ih pai ciangh a nop
            > lohna pen ei mau tek ii ih gen ih sep ih bawl zia maan kisa tek mimawh mi za
            > ah za ih hih lam kitel lo tek ih hih man ahi hi. Ih sep khat peuhpeuh a hoih
            > pen kisa kha pahpah i hih man hi. Hi bang paizia tawh upna ii thupiitna ih
            > thupi saan thei kei kha ding hi. We will never appreciate Faith unless we
            > are convicted as sinners by hundreds percent of our own sinful nature. God
            > calls us to the simplest way (faith) for the greatest gain.
            >
            >
            >
            > Backslide (nungtolh) vs Apostasy (puuk)
            >
            > Matthew 7: 17, 18na ah “Tua ahih manin singkung cidamte in gah limci gah a,
            > singkung gina lote in gah gina lo gah uh hi. Singkung cidamte in gah gina lo
            > gah ngei lo a, singkung gina lote in gah limci gah nei lo hi. Backslide cih
            > tehh nungtolh cihna hi. Thu ummi khat nungtol pak thei ding hi. Backslidng
            > is possible for true believers. But a postasy is impossible for true
            > believers. Pasian’ saptaktak thu um taktak mi ahih leh Pasian mah in phong
            > kik ding hi. Apostasy cih tehh thu um minpua pong cihna hi. Apostasy means
            > temporary believers. Apostasy cih tehh puukna cihna hi-a, puukna pen a
            > kipatna a maan kei leh puuk cihna hi. Tua ahih manin Pawlpi sungah zong thu
            > um taktak ahi taang le thu um minpua tahum po khawm hi. Thu um min pua te
            > pen a tawpna ah hong puuk hamtang ding uh hi. Gentehna Judah Siakazuh te
            > pawl. Tua a puukna uh pen a kipatna a maan lo uh ahihna le thu um taktak mi
            > ahih lohna uh a kel luphum uh a kilang sak tetti (evidence) ahi hi. In my
            > own word, whether salvation can be lost or not is to be dealth with true
            > beginning, thu repentance and true converstion not by half truth or mere
            > profession. Thu nung thu ma thei lo aa Salvation kitaan thei lo cih ziau pen
            > hoih masa lo-a, salvation kitaan thei cih lah laihuai pen sem hi. Kitaan
            > thei a ci te’n mihing a muang lua suak aa, kitaan thei ngiat lo a ci ziau te
            > in zong Pasian a muang khial suak thei kha dinguh hi. Bangbangin  a lang nih
            > tuakah negative point om thei hi mah ta leh kitaan thei lo cih sangin kitaan
            > thei cih pen lauhuai zaw hi. Banghang hiam cih leh kitaan thei ci pen biakna
            > dang ahi buddhism teaching khawng tawh a kilamdanna om lo-in LST lungdamna
            > thu tawh zong ki lehngak zaw hi. Kitaan thei cih pen sepna tawh cihna hi-a,
            > ahi zongin LST in sepna tawh tatkhiatna kingah lo na ci hi. LST tawh kituak
            > lo ahih nak leh lauhuai zaw cihna hi. Sepna cih pen genbanglohna cih kul pah
            > hi. Genbang lo tawh kuamah a si ding ih om kei ding hi. Tua ahih manin
            > tatkhiatna ngah khit tehh kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih tawh ki dong
            > nawn lo zawin, tatkhiatna pen koici bangin kingah cih bangin kidong zaw
            > rehang. Tatkhiatna kitaan maw cih pen ngah khitteh kitaan maw ci-in ki dong
            > nawn lo zaw-in ngah ma-in kitaan thei maw cih lam tawh kidot ding hi zaw hi.
            > Ih ngah takpi aa, thu ummi true believer ih hih taakpi ding thupi masa hi.
            > Ei Zomi te’ lakah (true believer) thu um taktak nungzui taktak mi sangin
            > Christian minpua hong tam semsem na pen decisionism ahi dictatorship le
            > alter call prayer for salvation cih te hang ahi hi. Decisionism cihteh
            > pastor pa in mipi te’ aading salvation hotkhiatna khensat sak cihna hi. Tua
            > a khensat sak mite in pastor pa’ khensat sakna pen paulap suk pah-a tua nu
            > tua pa amah le amah a kipat pan thu um taktak mi ahih loh lam zong mite in
            > phawk sak lo ahih man-a salvation kitaan thei maw kitaan thei lo cih khawng
            > peuh tawh a buai ih hi hi. Decisionism cih tehh ki khawm mite a mai ah samin
            > pastor pa in a ma cih bangbang Tanshwe in a sawl daandaan aa kizui sakin,
            > tua khitteh kei pen tu ni aa kipan a piang thak ta ka hihi cih thunget kizui
            > sak leuleu-in amau le amau kipia tawm gawp cihna hi. A mipa a minu ii kitel
            > taktakna conviction tawm zong omlo thei hi. Tua hi ih buaina!
            >
            >
            >
            > Mimawh te tungah Pasian’ ong hehpihna
            >
            >  Total depravity and total inability because of Adam’ fall cih LST thu
            > laigil te theih huai masa hi. Mihing te a hoih khat zong om lo hi. No one is
            > righteous Romans 3: 10. Ih vek pi aa, hell gam tung ding aa kilawm ih hih
            > lam, mawh nei mi ih hih lam ih kiciat mahmah ih ki convinced mahmah phot kei
            > leh Pasian’ thu laigil kitel zo lo ding hi. Ih vek aa hell gam tung ding
            > kimlai Jesuh ong tatkhiatna sungah upna tawh hehpihna ih ngah theih pen
            > lungdamna thu hi. Vantung gam tung ding thu ummite pen hell gam tung thu
            > umlo mite sangin a hoih zaw hi peuh mah lo hi. Hell tung te le Vangam tungte
            > ih vek aa a ki bang hi hang. We all deserve hell. Ahi zongin a telsa mite ih
            > kilawmna om het lo pi mah in Jesuh Khrih tanpa le Topa aa ih saanna tawh
            > vangam a ngah thei ding aa nang le kei Pasian in hong hing khawi lai manin
            > lungdam mahmah hang. Tua pen hehpihna ih cihcih pen hi.
            >
            > Grace-Faith-Repentance-Forgivenness-God’s preservation-and believers’
            > persevereance.
            >
            >  Tatkhiatna pen na ngah takpi leh na taan nawn kei ding hi. Na ngah takpi
            > kei leh bel na taan ding hi. A pat pan aa a taan khiinkhian a ngah lo
            > khinkhian na hihna pen a tawp dong na kholohna in hong kilang sak kik hi bek
            > hi. A taan lo te pen a kipat cil aa ngah takpi cihna hi. Once truly save
            > always save.
            >
            >
            >
            > Matthew 24: 24na aa “Banghang hiam cih leh Khrih a kineih khemte le kamsang
            > a kineih khemte hong piang ding a, a hih zawh leh a teelsa mite nangawn a
            > khemna dingun lim le nalamdang lianpipi hong bawl ding uh hi” cihna ah,
            > teelsa mi te pen ahih zawh leh cih hi bek hi. Teelsa mite pen hih zo lo ding
            > cihna kilang pah hi. Late 37: 24na ah “Amah a puk hangin lu-tuk lo ding hi;
            > banghang hiam cih leh Topa in ama khut len hi” ci hi. Christian te ih nisim
            > nuntaakna ah ih tuk zel hangin ih lu kitam lo ding hi. A lang khat lam
            > leuleu ah teel loh mite a khem zawh ding tampi tak hong piang lai ding ahih
            > manin Satan aa dingin kipat taak mahmah lai cihna hi. Pasian in nang le kei
            > hong teel hi. Thanks the Lord!
            >
            >
            >
            > One last note: Apua lam biaknate gen nai loh Chrisitanity sungah Tatkhiatna
            > kitaan cih pen Roman Catholic ii teaching hi pen hi. Siampi te tungah mawhna
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              Kong it Zomi laisim akua maciat, Amasa in Topa’ mintawh ong hopih  ingh.  Ih Topa’ lungnopna, lungmuanna, kipahna leh thupha namkim te ihvekpi’
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              Kong it Zomi laisim akua maciat,

              Amasa in Topa’ mintawh ong hopih  ingh.  Ih Topa’ lungnopna, lungmuanna, kipahna leh thupha namkim te ihvekpi’ tung ah ong tungkim ciat tahen. 

               

              ih thulupi tawh kisai in, ihkhan khiatna le, ongkihilh zia, ih pomzia tawh kizui in ei’ upna le ihsan na pen a tuampi khat hi theimawk mah hi.  Banbang himahtase leh, pawlpi in ahizong in, mimal mahmah in ahizong in, na upna leh na saanna tee kongzahtaaksak mahmah hi.

               

              Keimuhna leh kei upna hi leh Sia Dal aa tawh kilehbulh luapeuh mah hi.  “TATKHIATNA THUPHA PEN MIKHEEMPEUH IN NGAH THEI HI, AIZONG IN IH SAAAN LEH IH SAANLOH EI' KHENSATNA HI.”

               

              GUPKHIATNA THUPHA PEN MIKHEEMPEUH AA DING HI

              • Gupkhiatna ihcihpen Judah mite, Christian te’ aa dingbek cihbang hi lo hi.  Leitungmi kheempeuh aa ding ahihi.  Hih anuai aa, laisiangtho munte sim leng mikhat (individual) na cilo zaw in a vekpi/ kheempeuh (all ) cih kammal na naakzat mahmah hi.  Anuai aa laisiangthomunte enkaak ni:

               

              • John 3:16  Pasian in leitung mite hong it mahmah ahih manin ama Tapa a um mi khempeuh si nawnloin a hin' tawntung theihna dingun a Tapa neihsun a hong piak dongin a hong itna a hong lak hi.
              • 16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
              • Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be driven out. And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.
                John 12:31-32
              • For since death came through a human being, the resurrection of the dead has also come through a human being; for as all die in Adam, so all will be made alive in Christ.
                1Cor. 15:21-22
              • Therefore just as one man’s trespass led to condemnation for all, so one man’s act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all. Rom. 5:18
              • For God has imprisoned all in disobedience so that he may be merciful to all.
                Rom 11:32
              • My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; and he is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.  1 John 2:1-2
              • The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him and declared, “Here is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” John 1:29
              • Romans 10:13 Lai Siangtho in zong, "Topa tungah huhna a ngen khempeuhte in hotkhiatna a ngah ding uh hi," ci hi.                                                                                    13: For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

              GUPKHIATNA IN PASIAN KIANGPAN ONGPAI LETSONG HI

              • Gupkhiatna thupha/letsong pen mikheempeuh tung ah Pasian in ong pia hi.  Ongkipiak ding na ut aa, na utt kei zong in nang nial, septheih hi lo in Pasian in ong piak ahihi.
              • Rom 6:23

                23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (KJV)


                God's salvation to us is  truely a gift.

                Eph 2:8-9

                8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

                9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (KJV)


                Not only is salvation a "gift of God", but we are to boast, to rejoice in it.

              PASIAN IN GUPKHIATNA THUPHA A MAWKNA/LETSONG IN ONGPIAK KHONG HAANG, GUPKHIATNA A NGAHLO MITAMPI OM DING

              • Gupkhiatna thupha pen Topa’ in mikhempueh tungah ongpiak khong ahihi.  Ahizong in mikhat peuh in Pasian’ kiangpan aa ong pai letsong/thupha a saannop kei leh tua mipa, minu in tuathupha hangaa nopsakna leh hamphat na thupha te ngahlo ding hi.

               

              • Gentehna:  azawngmahmah sangnaupangkhat, mihau simsim khat in huhna pia nuam cini.  Mihaupa in mizawng sangnaupang pa kiang ah, nau aw, nasangkah na ding sumlehpai ong huh ning ci hi.  Itnatak leh deihsakna tak tawh mihaupan in huh nuamhi.  Aizong in, mizawng sangnaupang pa kiphatsakna lungsim tawh nial in, kisam keng, nong huhkul kei, or ka innkuanpih te in ong awikei in the cih ahizong in, paulap khatpeuh tawh nial leh pen, mihaupa in bangzah ta in ahuhnop hang piang theilo hi.

               

              • Tuamah bang in, Pasian in GUPKHIATNA THUPHA/letsong MIKHEEMPEUH, NANG LE KEI A KIHEL, tungah ongpia khong hi.  Nang nasaanleh tua gupkhiatna thupha agah te na nekha ding aa, na nial leh tua Pasian’ letsong in nang aa ding in manneilo bek ding hi.
              • Tuni tun hun inleitungah Topa’ lungdam na thu, ongpiak khong Gupnalungdam na thu a saaang lo mitampi tak omlai hi.  Asaang te’ aa ding in thupha hi aa,  anial te’ aa ding in manneilo bek thamlo in hamsiatna suak zawsop ding hi.  Pasian in  KONGPI HONSA in ong koih sak aa, Ama’ innlam zuan a aihpai ding ong ngak den hi.

               

              KUA TE IN GUPNA NGAH THEI DING?

               

              • A UM KHEMPEUH IN gupna ngah ding hi. 
              • John 3:16
                For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (KJV

               

              • Rom 10:13
                For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (KJV)

               

              • Titus 2:11
                For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men.

               

              • Kuakua cilo in Topa a um amuangmi kheempeuh Amah in honkhia ding hi.

               

              GUPNA KITAAN KIK THEI MAW KITAAN KIK THEILO

               

              • GUPNA IH SAANKHIT TEH KITAAN KIK THEILO HI
              • Luke 23:42,43
                • 42. Jesuh kiangah, "Jesuh aw, Kumpi-in nong pai ciangin kei zong hong phawk in," a ci hi.
                • 42: And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
                •  43 Jesuh in ama kiangah, "A mantakin ke'n kong cihin-ah: Tuni-in Paradais-ah kei tawh na omkhawm ding hi," a ci hi.
                • 43: And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

               

              Hih munah Topa Zeisu “Tuni in Paradais-ah kei tawh na omkhawm dinghy” na cihi.  Hi mun in “Save by grace through FAITH (upna tawh hehpihna hang aa gupkhiatna) ong muciansak mahmah hi.  Singlamteh tungah, a upna pulaakna tawh hih gutapa in gupna ngah hi. 

              Hih gutapa dinmun enleng amahpen asi ding hita, mawhna a bawlnuamlai phial zong aa a hunding, a munding om nonlo hi.  Tua aih man in Zeisu in tuni in Keitawh  na omkhawm ding hi a naci ahihi.

               

              • Jesus said, "I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand." John 10:28, 29.
              • Zeisu sung ah upnakip leh khotak in ih om naak a aleh, kuamah in ongkaikhia zo lo, thei lo ding hi.  Hih pen Zeisu in ongkamciam ahihi.  Bang hang hiam cih leh Zeisu in a sisan tawh ong tatsa ahihi.

              Theihding thupi: hih gutapa mahbang in sihkuan or last chance tawh upna pulaak te aading in Gupkhiatna lungmuan huai bek hi.  Banghanghiam cihleh, a nungta lai dingte in khialtoto theilai ahihman manhi.  Gupna ihsaan khit the ei upna ihkip let aa Topa sung ah nungta in, Ama’ nung ih sihdong in ihzuih leh gupna kitan nonlo ding hi. 

               

              GUPNA KITAAN KIK THEI HI

               

              • A thupi mahmah ih phawkdetding khat in banghiam cih leh, Pasian in leitung abawlcil in mhing te’ tung bek tham lo in a bawlsa vantungmite nagawn tungah DEIHTEEL THEIHNA “The Power of Choice” na  pia hi.

               

              • Pasian in Adam leh Eve huanlai zang aa singah a nelo ding in na gen hi.  Pasian in a nelo ding adeihleh bangdia tua “sialehpha theihan” or “the tree of knowledge…” huansung ah koih se hiam?  Pasian in eideihteel na ong theinuam hi.  Tuamah bang in gupkhiatna thupha mikheempueh tungah ong piakhang in, a saangmite’ aa ding bek in mannei suak bek hi. 

               

              • Gupna saankhitteh kitaankik thei lua hi:  Adam leh Eve en lehang, mawhna aneilo nupa te ahi uh hi.  Aizong amau deihteel natawh singah nane in mawhna onglut hi.   Atom ingen leng, mawhna a neilo te na ngawn puuk ahihleh ei mawhna cilehsa tawh nungta te bangzah in in puk ding baihzawding hiam! 

               

              • John 8:3-11
                • 11 Numei in, "Topa aw, kuamah in thu hong khenlo hi," ci-in a dawng hi. Tua ciangin Jesuh in, "Kei zong nang tungah thu kong khen kei hi. Ciah in la, mawhna bawl nawn kei in," a ci hi.).

               

              • Zeisu singlamteh gei aa guta kikhai pa leh hih Mary tung aa Topa’ Zeisu thu vaikhaak kilamdang hi.  Singlamteh tung aa gutapa kiang, “keitawh tuni in naomkhawm ding hi” na ci hi.  Ahihzong in Mary tung ah, “ciah in la mawhnon kei in.” naci hi.  Cihnop na ah Zeisu ihsaankhit teh or gupnathupha ih san khitteh ki khial kik thei lua ahihlam Zeisu in thei gige hi.

               

              • Israelite mite enleng Egypt gam pan pasal picing bebek tengguk bang Pasian in paikhiat pih hi.  Aizong in amau thaneemna leh, mawhna hang in Joshua le Caleb bek Canaan gam lut hi.

               

              • Ezekiel 33:12-16
              • 12 "Mihing ahi Ezekiel aw, tu-in Israel mite kiangah hih bangin gen in: Midik khat in mawhna a bawl leh, a beisa-a ama hoihna in amah suaktasak theilo hi. Migilo khat a gitlohna khawl leh gim kipialo ding a, midik khat in mawhna bawl leh nungtasuak tuanlo ding hi.
                • 12: Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.
                • 13 Midik khat tungah nuntakna ding kam ka ciam hangin, a beisa-a ama hoihna suangin mawh gamtat ding hong kipan leh, ama gamtat hoihnasate ka phawk kei ding hi. Ama mawh gamtatna hangin si veve ding hi.
                • 13: When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousnesses shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.
                • 14 Migilo khat kiangah, na si taktak ding hi, ci-in ka hilhkholh hangin, a mawh gamtatna khawlin a man a hoihin hong gamtakik hen la,
                • 14: Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
                • 15 Gentehna-in, leitawi lapa in ama tungah a ap khapna vante pia kikin, a guksa nate pia kikin, a mawh bawlnate khawlin, nuntakna a pia thei thukhamte a zuih leh, amah nungta taktak ding a, si hetlo ding hi.
                • 15: If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die. 
                • 16 Ama gamtatnasa mawhnate kimaisak ding hi. A man a hoihin amah gamta ahih manin nungta ding hi.
                • 16: None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.
                • "He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13  atawp dong or sih dong in a thuakzote bek in gupna ngah ding hi.

               

               

              Sia Dal’

              “Ezekiel 33:11-15 le Matt 23: 37na te pawl pen Tatkhiatna ngah theihna ding aa, kisik kikna Pasian in a kalhna hi. (This text is for unbelievers) . A piangthak khin mite tungah hah genna hi lo zaw hi. Tatkhiat gupkhiat ngah khit ciang aa ding thu a genna hi lo hi. Tatkhiatna a ngah ma aa mimawh pa/nu in a mawhna a kisik kei leh ngah lo ding ahihna tona challenge na hi zaw hi. Tatkhiatna na ngah khit ciang aa tona challenge na hi lo zaw hi. Kipia khin ngah khin aa sut kik aa taan sak kik cih peuh mah pen Pasian’ nasep hi thei lo hi. Ginat loh vai lua mahmah hi. Ih theih dingah Christ effectual calling cih khawng thupi hi.”

               

              Hih laisiangtho munpen thu umlo mite’ aa ding bekhi cih theihna ding pen lampi omthei tuanlo hi.  Pasian in  a kamsang (prophet Ezekiel) mah zang aa mite tungah a gen thu te ahihi.  Pasian in akipatna te ah, Israel mite’ tungah gen in cihi.  Thuciamlui hunsung in Israel te pen Pasian in teltuammite hi.  Tuamah bang in ei Christian tezong Topa’ ongtel tuam mitemah hi hang.  Hikeihang ihcihleh tuabel thukhat maw.  Aizong eite pen Teeltuammite bektham lo gamhluah zaa, tapa zaa angah te ihhihi.  Tua ahihman in hih laisiantho mun pen eiaa ding hilo cih theihna ding thuom lo hi.  LST sung ah ut teng ei aading, deihlo teng ei a ding hilo ihcihleh lauhuai mahmah ding hi.

               

              VANTUNG GAM AH MAWHNAOMLO

               

              • Revelation 21:27 Ahi zongin a sianglo, a hoihloin a gamta mi, zuau a gen mite kuamah lut theilo ding uh a, a nungta mite a kigelhna Tuuno laibu sungah a min a omte bek tua khuapi sungah lutthei ding uh hi
              • Matthew 5:8.  "Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God."
              • 1 Corinthians 6:9, 10.  Migilote, Pasian' Ukna sungah a lut hetlohna ding thu na thei uh hi. Note kihaibawl kei un. Numei tawh a paktatte, milim biate, mi zi ahih kei leh mi pasal tawh a mawhte, pasal leh pasal a khialte,
              • 9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God ? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
              • 10 A gutate, a huaihamte, zukhamte, mi gensiate, ahih kei leh mi' na a sutte khat beek, Pasian' Ukna sungah lutthei hetlo ding hi.

               

              Gup nangah khit teh taan thei non vetlo ding, or mawhna ih bawl hang gupna pen kitan nonlo ding hi leh, vantunggam ihtun teh ih ken theih ding, mawh na ih bawl pihpih ih character (ih nunzia) bekmah hi ding ahih man in Laisiangtho gentawh ongkileh bulhpeuhmah ding hi.  "He that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." Matthew 24:13.  a tawpdong a thuakzote bek ki honkhia ding ci ahih man in a tawpdong athuak zolo te gupna ngahlo ding ahihna kilang hi.

               

              Gupna kitaan theinonlo ding hi leh, na veng pa na aak tuilimci mahmah on guuksak or, na ganno khat peuh ong thahsak aizong, na zi/pasal taw ongmawh pih leh phamawh kei ih ci ngam ding hiam?

               

              JESUS’ GENTEHNA TE

               

              • Mark 4:3-9; Matt 13:3-9; Luke 8:5-8) 
              • Khaici vawh pa tang thu enleng, a khaici pen lamgei a kia, suang lak a kia, linglak  aa kia, leh leihoihna a kia cihbang in nag en hi.  Thumaan thutak a musa ten a ngawn nungkik thei leh, gupna taanthei lua ahih lam ong lak hi.
              • Lengah kung thugenteh na en leng Jesus in keitawh ongkizom lote ki sat khia dinghy na ci hi.
                • KJV John 15:1-12
                  (1) I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
                  (2) Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
                  (3) Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
                  (4) Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
                  (5) I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
                  (6) If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
                  (7) If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
                  (8) Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
                  (9) As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
                  (10) If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
                  (11) These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
                  (12) This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

               

              Siadal:

              “ Romans 8: 30na ah “whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified” na ci ngiat hi. Romans 9: 11na ah God’s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of his call na ci hi.”

              Hih munah pen, Paul in Pasian’ sehkholh nasal eh gelna te agen ahihi.  Pasian sehna leh geelna te pen mi khat peuh (individual) aa gupna piading or pialoding hi lo in, a umkhempeuh in gupna / nuntaktawntungna ngah ding cih hi bek hi.

               “God predestined for everyone or all who believe in Him shall be saved.  On the other hand, those who do not believe in Him or who neglect His salvation shall surely die.”

              Tua ahihman in eimimalkhat ciat ii lungsim khensat na tawh ki zui in leitung ih nuntak nah u ih diiklai siah mawhna ki bawl kik thei lua leh Pasian in ih ngahsa gupana thupah ong tuah khiat sakthei lua a hihlam phawktawn tung ding kisam hi.

              Thukhupna

              Pasian in Gupkhiatna/Salvation thupha mikheempeuh tungah konghonsa in ongpia hi.  Ih saanleh ei aading hi aa, ihsaan nopkei leh ei supna dinghi.  Pasian in aanaa (force) zanglo ahih man in ongpaaksa thukhensat theih na khuan/ deihteltheih na (the power of choice) pen ei mihingte’ zat dingahihi.  Lauman leh, guallelhna tawh biakding sang in, IT na leh TEEl na tawh AMAH ih biak ding Topa’ deihna ahihi.

              Mawhna a neikilkel lo Adam leh Eve na ngawn na mawh uh ahih man in ei mawhna pumpi a pua mihing te in mawhnading pen lamtampi tak omzaw thamlai hi.  Tua bang ih cih ciang in, dikuat luat ding cih na hi lo hi.  Paul, “ka sung aa om khazih hang in nakhsempeuh hihthei ingh” a cih mah bang in eite in zong ihnuntak na sung ah ei hoih man hi lo, Pasian huhna tawh sih dong aa upnakip alen zo te ihhih thupi pen hi.

               

              Topa'n a kuama ciat thupha ong pia ta hen.  Amen.

               



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              Evidence of Justification Justification is a legal term in the NT especially in the books of Romans. Romans 8: 30 say “And those whom he predestined he also
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                Evidence of Justification

                Justification is a legal term in the NT especially in the books of Romans.

                Romans 8: 30 say “And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified”.

                The implication of Justification

                Our salvation is justification by Grace through Faith Alone in Jesus Christ Alone, and is the heart of the Gospel. A true Christian must go through the experience of Justification and Sanctification.

                Salvation is planed by God the Father because the plan is prior to the execution. Justification is done for us by God the Son. Sanctification is being performed in a true believer’s daily life by the work of the Holy Spirit. Not the human spirit that work in you to believe. Romans 9: 16 say “So then it is not of him, who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy”. It is the Holy Spirit that regenerates you to believe. Salvation is not by generation. Salvation is by the regeneration of the Holy Spirit. Philippians 2: 13 say “for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure”. So we can say our sanctification is just the fruit of justification not vice versa. And justification is the ground for sanctification. Salvation has a past reference (Eph. 2: 8) and a present experience (1 Cor 1: 18) and a future hope (Rom 5: 9). A true believer have been justified and being sanctified and will be glorified yet. In other word, if you are a true believer, then, you have been saved and are being saved and will be saved yet. God the Father elects. God the Son justifies you on the Cross. God the Holy Spirit sanctifies you. God the Holy Spirit will not sanctify you if you are not justified first. A truly sanctifying life is the result of a truly justifying not vice versa. The evidences are never being the cause. You cannot add any effort to your justification because it is a once for all event. It is done fully and can be done only by Christ. It is not a half done left event. God never left half done. Our salvation is in God’s hand. Salvation belongs to God (Jonah 2: 9). So we can say God’s preservation for salvation is evidenced in true believers’ perseverance. The perseverance of the saints is the preservation of God. No one is perfect. But let not this statement for excuse. We cannot gain perfection by our own effort here on earth. But we can pursue perfection in the only name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. However, Christ’s perfect holiness, obedience, faithfulness and righteousness can be imputed to us. Not infused. You are not the infused one. You are the imputed one. This imputation can be clothed to you by believing in Jesus Christ.

                 

                Justification by Faith

                “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, now that we are  reconciled, shall we be saved by His life” (Romans 5: 10).

                 

                We just have said that imputation can be clothed unto us by believing. But I am not saved or justified by believing. Rather, I simply realize I am saved by believing. Supposing, when someone massages your body, you just simply must have to realize and believe that you are being massaged. Primarily, the reason why you say “yes” on the massage performing on you is not because you say “yes” but because it is being performing on you by someone not by yourself that is why you must believe and must say “yes”.  Moreover, it is not repentance that saves me and justifies me. Repentance is only the sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus so as sanctification is the result of justification. The danger here is putting the emphasis on the effect (sanctification), instead of on the cause (justification).

                Ephesians 2: 8 says “Faith itself is the gift of God”.

                 

                Is it my perfect obedience, perfect consecration, and perfect dedication that make me right with God?

                It is never that! I am made right with God because, prior to all of that, Christ died. As a result of the supernatural miracle of God’s grace I stand justified, not because I am sorry for my sin, but because of what Jesus has done. True believer will know he is saved, even though he doesn’t know how it was accomplished on him/her.

                Salvation that comes from God is not based on human logic, but on the sacrificial death of Jesus. Sinful men and women can be changed into new creations, not through their repentance or their belief, but through the wonderful work of God in Christ Jesus which preceded all of our experience (2Corinthians 5: 17-19). You are to have experience only if something is done on you. You are to have experience of justification and sanctification in order to become a true Christian. Your experience will never be the cause of your salvation. The unconquerable safety of justification and sanctification is God Himself. God always takes the initiative of all. In the case of good God is directing. But in the case of evil God is overruling. The supernatural becomes natural to us through the miracle of God, and there is the realization of what Jesus Christ has already done—“It is finished!” (John 19: 30)

                 

                Faith without work is death-James 2: 26

                Faith without the work of Christ is death. But Christian faith is alive compared to other religions because Jesus works for us. It is alive because it is the work of Christ. The work of Christ is our Faith. Thus our faith involves work, the work of Christ not your work.

                Therefore, our Christian faith your faith my faith is not a death faith. If our faith is without the work of Jesus, then, it is indeed a death faith. In fact, our faith is with work. Our faith is with the work of Jesus. Not with your work. So our faith is not death. Any faith that is without the work of Christ is a death faith. Faith + the work of Christ on Calvary. Thus, Faith without the work of Christ on Calvary is death.

                 

                Paul deals with justification “before God”-Romans 4: 1-3

                James deals with justification “before men”. (See James 2: 14 “though a man says”; 2: 18 “a man may say”; 2: 18 “show me”; “I will show you”; 2: 24 “you see”)

                1.      Without faith you cannot stand before God

                2.      Without work evidences you cannot show your faith in Christ to other religions. The evidence must be unique. And the uniqueness is by faith alone. Although some forms of bhakti Hinduism and Pure Land Buddhism do teach that salvation cannot be attained through one’s own efforts but rather is a gift from another being, Islam, along with most other religious traditions including Theravada Buddhism, teaches that salvation is based on one’s own deeds. This is also almost the teaching of Roman Catholic teaching nowadays. But the Bible clearly states that salvation is not something that human beings can earn through their own efforts; it is the gift of God’s grace, which is to be accepted by faith (Rom. 3: 20, 28; Eph. 2: 8-9). The core teaching of the Bible is by Faith. And that is our evangelical faith.

                 

                Paul and James are like 69 not contrast (69 looks contrast but are one that makes a complete number sixty nine)

                Paul speaks of faith because God alone can see faith in the heart.

                James speaks of a living faith which produces works in the outward life of a man which can be seen and examined by other men (James 2: 14, 17-20)

                Paul draws his illustration from Genesis. 15: 6, wherein the conversion of Abraham is recorded. Paul refers to Abraham’s justification by faith alone (Sola Fide). Thus, he is dealing with Abraham’s salvation

                James draws his illustration from Genesis 22: 1-19, where, after being a believer for many years, Abraham is asked to give evidence to everyone of his love to and faith in God. James refers to Abraham after he was justified.

                In short, Paul’s key phrase is “before God” and James’s key phrase is “show me” (James 2: 18). James could not see faith if it was not manifested by works.

                Let me remind you in my own word. The evidence or the manifestation is not the cause of faith. It is just the fruit. The tree is known by its fruit (Mtt 12: 33). But the fruit is not the first cause. The first cause is the tree.

                The truly justified will evidence his justification by faith—in good works

                 

                Outside of Justification God Never Knew You

                Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven…Matthew 7: 21.

                The question is “what is the will of the Father?”

                One of the first answers for me to this question is

                Acts 4: 12 that say “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven among men by which we must be saved. (The name is Jesus Christ alone).

                John 14: 6, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”. (Only one way that is in Christ)

                1 Corinthians 1: 21 say “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. (The will of God is to preach Christ crucified on the Cross for sinners even though it is a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God).

                Romans 1: 16, 17 say “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.” (The will of the Father is to live by faith is His Son Jesus Christ).

                Hebrews 1: 1-3 say “Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Jesus Christ), whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. (Jesus Christ is God last revelation for mankind).

                 

                In short, what I want to make the point here is that the will of the Father is not just external religious performing in other religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism or Romanism and so on…The will of the Father will only be found in Christ Jesus alone. It is revealed more than enough in the Bible. The will of the Father is justification by Grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus alone. Not by work. The fact is you have to be justified now by faith. A Burmese proverb says “Good begin good end”. The good beginning is by faith in Jesus Christ that is to be saved you from the past, present and future sin. We must seek first the righteousness of Christ by faith (Mtt 6: 33). Not by work. Faith is the first thing to be received then work will be added. The added one is not the cause of faith. Christian salvation is not from ignorance (Buddhism). It is from sin (Christian).

                 

                Ignorance vs. Sin

                Many religions, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism, identify the root problem afflicting humankind as ignorance about the true nature of reality. But the Bible teaches that the problem is not ignorance but sin, that is, deliberately rejection of God and his ways (Isa. 59: 2; Rom. 3: 9-26). Moreover, contrary to Confucianism, the Bible teaches that after the fall of Adam and Eve all humankind has been corrupted by sin infecting their moral nature, so that people are not inherently good but sinful (Genesis 3; Rom. 3: 9-20; 5: 12-14).

                 

                Unqualified Question vs. Qualified Question

                One such unqualified question here is “Can a true believer loose his or her salvation?” (Since it is true how can he lose?).

                Qualified question “Can a sinner be justified?” These two questions are the different between unbelievers and true believers. According to the second question, unbelievers can be justified. But true believers cannot be lost. The fact is you must be true. However, unbelievers cannot be justified if they reject to be justified. Since they will not be justified by their own rejection they have been lost from the very beginning even though they are with us. The book of Hebrews 6: 4-6 talks about whether salvation can be lost? The fact is salvation can surely be lost by way of not accepting in true repentance and true conversion unto the forgiveness of the Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, there is no such potential apostasy for true believers. I mean there is no such potential for a true believer to lose his or her salvation because he or she is true from the beginning with God. The problem that salvation can be lost is treating the unbelievers as true believers. The fact is they are not true believers. They are just treated as true believers. That’s the problem that raise unqualified question such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation?” We must be able to ask a right question for right answer such as “Can a sinner be truly justified?” Yes! On the other hand, it is irrelevant to ask such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation again?”

                True repentance, true conversion in Christ will never lose you from your salvation, by which, you once have been truly forgiven. I thought you are a true Christian! Aren’t you? Yes. You are! If so, you have to accept this. Bad end manifests bad begin. Good end testifies good begin. Good begin will never lose its end. Bad begin will always lose its end. Good begin always starts with God. Bad begin starts with man. You chose your salvation and you lose. God chooses your salvation and you are not lost.

                 

                One last note

                1.      Somebody asked me “Do Christian eat blood?” My answer to them is “Yes. We Christian do eat blood. The fact is we do not drink blood”

                 

                2.      A similar question is asked to me again “Is it right to say once saved always saved?” My answer to them is “In the context of God it is true. But in the context of Satan it is deceitful.”

                 

                Article references

                1.      ESV Study Bible... p. 2628—Biblical Theme and Other Religions.

                2.      From Grace Ministerial Academy lecture on “Doctrine of Salvation”--by Pastor Noel A. Espinosa

                3.      Oswald Champers’ “My Utmost for His Highest—Edited by James Reimann

                 

                Brother Dal

                   Zomi

                From Chin State

                In Myanmar

                (Manila)

                 



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                Upna nei  i cih ciang in i muh theih nailoh i lamete ngah takpi ding ci-in muanna lungsim neihna a hihi.(Heb.11:1) Thukham leh gamtatna pha hangin hotkhitnki
                Message 7 of 28 , Sep 4, 2009
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                  Upna nei  i cih ciang in i muh theih nailoh i lamete ngah takpi ding ci-in muanna lungsim neihna a hihi.(Heb.11:1) Thukham leh gamtatna pha hangin hotkhitnki ngahlo a, hotkhiatna thu ah upna hangin gamtatna hoih kisam hi.

                  Na si na sa uh nopsak nangin tua suahtakna zangkei un.(Gal.5:3)Tua a hihleh, upna hangin thukham ipaai khia hiam, tua bang hi loin thukham i kipsak hi.(Rom.3:31).Si leh sa in Khasiangtho tawh kido hi. (Gal.5:17). Na gamtat uh hoihsak tawntung un.( 1Pet.2:12). Kha omlo pumpi in a si ahih mah bang in gamtatna pha omlo upna in a si hi.(James2:26).Gitlohna na lel kei un. Gamtatpha tawh gitlohna na zo un.(Rom.12:21). Gamtathoih zom un.(Titus 3:1-8). I nuntakna ah,gamtat hoih a nei ding a hong bawl i hihi.(Eph.2:10). Upna lungsim tawh a kituak lo gamtatna khempeuh mawhna hi.(Rom .14:23).

                  Gamtatna hoih akisam lua ahihi.(Rom.2:6-7). Banghanghiam i cih leh Pasian in mi khempeuh a gamtatna uhtawh kizui-in thukkik ding hi. Pahtakna leh hintawntungna deih in a gamtat hoih tawntungmite tungah Pasian in nuntak tawntungna piading aa,ahi zong in a ma’deihna bek zui-in a gamtatding a kilawmbang in gamta loin, a maanlo in agamta mite tungah Pasian in a maa hehna hang in gimna atungsak ding hi.

                  A gamtat hoih mite pen a nungta tawntung dingin hong tho kik ding uh a, a gamtat siate a hih leh mawhsakna thukhenna a thuak ding in hong tho kik ding uh hi.(John. 5:29;Pau. 12:14).

                  Tua ahihman in Pasianthu a um te in gamtathoih aneihtheih na ding un hih ka hongthugente na lim ngaihsut nading un ka deihhi.(Titus.3:8). Tua ahih man in upna leh sepna kizom khawm a, sepna in upna akicinsakna thu nathei uh hi.(James.2:22-26).”Kei kiang ah Topa aw,Topa aw, hong ci mi khempeuh vantung ki-ukna sungah lut thei kim lo ding uh aa, vantung a om ka Pa’ deihna bangin a gamtate bek lut ding uh hi.”(Matt. 7:21).

                  Banghang hiam cih leh Christ mai ah thusitna a thuak ding in eite khempeuh a kilak ding ihi a, leitung i pumpi-in i om lai-in i gamtatna tawh ki zui-in eite tawh a ki tuak ciat in a sia a hi a, a pha a hi zong in a ngah ciat ding I hihi.(2Cor.5:10). Hih thu hang in na upna ban uh ah, gamtat hoihna tawh nab eh lap un. (2Pet.1:5). A pha a gamtatna ding mi tampi ahilhte pen aksi bangin a taang tawntuanng  ding uh hi. (Dan.12:3).

                  Hih a tung aa LST mun te en kik leng upna leh gamtatna kigawm aa aluankhop zia teltak in I mu thei hi. LST tungtawn in Khasiangtho in muntampi ah hong hilh hi.Budish te thu kihilh na bek hi zenzen lo hi.Christian semsem gamtat hoih kisam semsem hizaw hi.

                   Gamtatna tawh kisai pawlkhat te tel dan pen lokhawh,singpuak(work)cih dan te pawlbek hi leh ki lawm sang.Tua ahih le bel a mau cih bang in gamtatna kisamlo mah kha ding hi.Tu in ei te cihnop gamtatna in(virtue)a hihi.  Gam tatna kisam kei, upna bek a ci mite St. James in, lawm haite (james2:20) na ci giap ek hi.

                  Na up kei leh na en pah lian le teh!!!

                  Heh  nang om lo kup pih na hi.

                   

                  --- On Fri, 9/4/09, suang dal <suangdal@...> wrote:

                  From: suang dal <suangdal@...>
                  Subject: [ ZOGAMNET ] Faith without work is death? Evidence of Justification
                  To: blessedzomi@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:22 PM

                   

                  Justification is a legal term in the NT especially in the books of Romans.

                  Romans 8: 30 say “And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified”.

                  The implication of Justification

                  Our salvation is justification by Grace through Faith Alone in Jesus Christ Alone, and is the heart of the Gospel. A true Christian must go through the experience of Justification and Sanctification.

                  Salvation is planed by God the Father because the plan is prior to the execution. Justification is done for us by God the Son. Sanctification is being performed in a true believer’s daily life by the work of the Holy Spirit. Not the human spirit that work in you to believe. Romans 9: 16 say “So then it is not of him, who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy”. It is the Holy Spirit that regenerates you to believe. Salvation is not by generation. Salvation is by the regeneration of the Holy Spirit. Philippians 2: 13 say “for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure”. So we can say our sanctification is just the fruit of justification not vice versa. And justification is the ground for sanctification. Salvation has a past reference (Eph. 2: 8) and a present experience (1 Cor 1: 18) and a future hope (Rom 5: 9). A true believer have been justified and being sanctified and will be glorified yet. In other word, if you are a true believer, then, you have been saved and are being saved and will be saved yet. God the Father elects. God the Son justifies you on the Cross. God the Holy Spirit sanctifies you. God the Holy Spirit will not sanctify you if you are not justified first. A truly sanctifying life is the result of a truly justifying not vice versa. The evidences are never being the cause. You cannot add any effort to your justification because it is a once for all event. It is done fully and can be done only by Christ. It is not a half done left event. God never left half done. Our salvation is in God’s hand. Salvation belongs to God (Jonah 2: 9). So we can say God’s preservation for salvation is evidenced in true believers’ perseverance. The perseverance of the saints is the preservation of God. No one is perfect. But let not this statement for excuse. We cannot gain perfection by our own effort here on earth. But we can pursue perfection in the only name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. However, Christ’s perfect holiness, obedience, faithfulness and righteousness can be imputed to us. Not infused. You are not the infused one. You are the imputed one. This imputation can be clothed to you by believing in Jesus Christ.

                   

                  Justification by Faith

                  “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, now that we are  reconciled, shall we be saved by His life” (Romans 5: 10).

                   

                  We just have said that imputation can be clothed unto us by believing. But I am not saved or justified by believing. Rather, I simply realize I am saved by believing. Supposing, when someone massages your body, you just simply must have to realize and believe that you are being massaged. Primarily, the reason why you say “yes” on the massage performing on you is not because you say “yes” but because it is being performing on you by someone not by yourself that is why you must believe and must say “yes”.  Moreover, it is not repentance that saves me and justifies me. Repentance is only the sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus so as sanctification is the result of justification. The danger here is putting the emphasis on the effect (sanctification) , instead of on the cause (justification) .

                  Ephesians 2: 8 says “Faith itself is the gift of God”.

                   

                  Is it my perfect obedience, perfect consecration, and perfect dedication that make me right with God?

                  It is never that! I am made right with God because, prior to all of that, Christ died. As a result of the supernatural miracle of God’s grace I stand justified, not because I am sorry for my sin, but because of what Jesus has done. True believer will know he is saved, even though he doesn’t know how it was accomplished on him/her.

                  Salvation that comes from God is not based on human logic, but on the sacrificial death of Jesus. Sinful men and women can be changed into new creations, not through their repentance or their belief, but through the wonderful work of God in Christ Jesus which preceded all of our experience (2Corinthians 5: 17-19). You are to have experience only if something is done on you. You are to have experience of justification and sanctification in order to become a true Christian. Your experience will never be the cause of your salvation. The unconquerable safety of justification and sanctification is God Himself. God always takes the initiative of all. In the case of good God is directing. But in the case of evil God is overruling. The supernatural becomes natural to us through the miracle of God, and there is the realization of what Jesus Christ has already done—“It is finished!” (John 19: 30)

                   

                  Faith without work is death-James 2: 26

                  Faith without the work of Christ is death. But Christian faith is alive compared to other religions because Jesus works for us. It is alive because it is the work of Christ. The work of Christ is our Faith. Thus our faith involves work, the work of Christ not your work.

                  Therefore, our Christian faith your faith my faith is not a death faith. If our faith is without the work of Jesus, then, it is indeed a death faith. In fact, our faith is with work. Our faith is with the work of Jesus. Not with your work. So our faith is not death. Any faith that is without the work of Christ is a death faith. Faith + the work of Christ on Calvary. Thus, Faith without the work of Christ on Calvary is death.

                   

                  Paul deals with justification “before God”-Romans 4: 1-3

                  James deals with justification “before men”. (See James 2: 14 “though a man says”; 2: 18 “a man may say”; 2: 18 “show me”; “I will show you”; 2: 24 “you see”)

                  1.      Without faith you cannot stand before God

                  2.      Without work evidences you cannot show your faith in Christ to other religions. The evidence must be unique. And the uniqueness is by faith alone. Although some forms of bhakti Hinduism and Pure Land Buddhism do teach that salvation cannot be attained through one’s own efforts but rather is a gift from another being, Islam, along with most other religious traditions including Theravada Buddhism, teaches that salvation is based on one’s own deeds. This is also almost the teaching of Roman Catholic teaching nowadays. But the Bible clearly states that salvation is not something that human beings can earn through their own efforts; it is the gift of God’s grace, which is to be accepted by faith (Rom. 3: 20, 28; Eph. 2: 8-9). The core teaching of the Bible is by Faith. And that is our evangelical faith.

                   

                  Paul and James are like 69 not contrast (69 looks contrast but are one that makes a complete number sixty nine)

                  Paul speaks of faith because God alone can see faith in the heart.

                  James speaks of a living faith which produces works in the outward life of a man which can be seen and examined by other men (James 2: 14, 17-20)

                  Paul draws his illustration from Genesis. 15: 6, wherein the conversion of Abraham is recorded. Paul refers to Abraham’s justification by faith alone (Sola Fide). Thus, he is dealing with Abraham’s salvation

                  James draws his illustration from Genesis 22: 1-19, where, after being a believer for many years, Abraham is asked to give evidence to everyone of his love to and faith in God. James refers to Abraham after he was justified.

                  In short, Paul’s key phrase is “before God” and James’s key phrase is “show me” (James 2: 18). James could not see faith if it was not manifested by works.

                  Let me remind you in my own word. The evidence or the manifestation is not the cause of faith. It is just the fruit. The tree is known by its fruit (Mtt 12: 33). But the fruit is not the first cause. The first cause is the tree.

                  The truly justified will evidence his justification by faith—in good works

                   

                  Outside of Justification God Never Knew You

                  Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven…Matthew 7: 21.

                  The question is “what is the will of the Father?”

                  One of the first answers for me to this question is

                  Acts 4: 12 that say “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven among men by which we must be saved. (The name is Jesus Christ alone).

                  John 14: 6, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”. (Only one way that is in Christ)

                  1 Corinthians 1: 21 say “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. (The will of God is to preach Christ crucified on the Cross for sinners even though it is a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God).

                  Romans 1: 16, 17 say “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.” (The will of the Father is to live by faith is His Son Jesus Christ).

                  Hebrews 1: 1-3 say “Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Jesus Christ), whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. (Jesus Christ is God last revelation for mankind).

                   

                  In short, what I want to make the point here is that the will of the Father is not just external religious performing in other religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism or Romanism and so on…The will of the Father will only be found in Christ Jesus alone. It is revealed more than enough in the Bible. The will of the Father is justification by Grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus alone. Not by work. The fact is you have to be justified now by faith. A Burmese proverb says “Good begin good end”. The good beginning is by faith in Jesus Christ that is to be saved you from the past, present and future sin. We must seek first the righteousness of Christ by faith (Mtt 6: 33). Not by work. Faith is the first thing to be received then work will be added. The added one is not the cause of faith. Christian salvation is not from ignorance (Buddhism). It is from sin (Christian).

                   

                  Ignorance vs. Sin

                  Many religions, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism, identify the root problem afflicting humankind as ignorance about the true nature of reality. But the Bible teaches that the problem is not ignorance but sin, that is, deliberately rejection of God and his ways (Isa. 59: 2; Rom. 3: 9-26). Moreover, contrary to Confucianism, the Bible teaches that after the fall of Adam and Eve all humankind has been corrupted by sin infecting their moral nature, so that people are not inherently good but sinful (Genesis 3; Rom. 3: 9-20; 5: 12-14).

                   

                  Unqualified Question vs. Qualified Question

                  One such unqualified question here is “Can a true believer loose his or her salvation?” (Since it is true how can he lose?).

                  Qualified question “Can a sinner be justified?” These two questions are the different between unbelievers and true believers. According to the second question, unbelievers can be justified. But true believers cannot be lost. The fact is you must be true. However, unbelievers cannot be justified if they reject to be justified. Since they will not be justified by their own rejection they have been lost from the very beginning even though they are with us. The book of Hebrews 6: 4-6 talks about whether salvation can be lost? The fact is salvation can surely be lost by way of not accepting in true repentance and true conversion unto the forgiveness of the Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, there is no such potential apostasy for true believers. I mean there is no such potential for a true believer to lose his or her salvation because he or she is true from the beginning with God. The problem that salvation can be lost is treating the unbelievers as true believers. The fact is they are not true believers. They are just treated as true believers. That’s the problem that raise unqualified question such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation?” We must be able to ask a right question for right answer such as “Can a sinner be truly justified?” Yes! On the other hand, it is irrelevant to ask such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation again?”

                  True repentance, true conversion in Christ will never lose you from your salvation, by which, you once have been truly forgiven. I thought you are a true Christian! Aren’t you? Yes. You are! If so, you have to accept this. Bad end manifests bad begin. Good end testifies good begin. Good begin will never lose its end. Bad begin will always lose its end. Good begin always starts with God. Bad begin starts with man. You chose your salvation and you lose. God chooses your salvation and you are not lost.

                   

                  One last note

                  1.      Somebody asked me “Do Christian eat blood?” My answer to them is “Yes. We Christian do eat blood. The fact is we do not drink blood”

                   

                  2.      A similar question is asked to me again “Is it right to say once saved always saved?” My answer to them is “In the context of God it is true. But in the context of Satan it is deceitful.”

                   

                  Article references

                  1.      ESV Study Bible... p. 2628—Biblical Theme and Other Religions.

                  2.      From Grace Ministerial Academy lecture on “Doctrine of Salvation”--by Pastor Noel A. Espinosa

                  3.      Oswald Champers’ “My Utmost for His Highest—Edited by James Reimann

                   

                  Brother Dal

                     Zomi

                  From Chin State

                  In Myanmar

                  (Manila)

                   

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                • suang dal
                  Upna le gamtatna tawn khawm kei kici lo hi. Ahi zonging upna masa zaw hi. Na gamtat hoihna tawh Pasian gam na tung diam? Ka tung kei ding hi. Na khut pen na
                  Message 8 of 28 , Sep 4, 2009
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                    Upna le gamtatna tawn khawm kei kici lo hi. Ahi zonging upna masa zaw hi. Na gamtat hoihna tawh Pasian' gam na tung diam? Ka tung kei ding hi.
                    Na khut pen na pumpi aa hi masa zaw-a, na pumpi pen na khut aa hi masa zaw lo hi.
                    Upna ih cih leh gamtatna a kihel sa hi a, gamtatna ih cih sungah upna kihel lo thei hi.
                    Jesuh sungah upna kihel lo thei hi.
                     
                    ci pak ni
                     
                    Lungdam
                     
                    Dal

                    --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Khai Boy <martinkhai@...> wrote:

                    From: Khai Boy <martinkhai@...>
                    Subject: Re: [ ZOGAMNET ] Faith without work is death? Evidence of Justification
                    To: blessedzomi@yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Friday, 4 September, 2009, 7:22 AM

                     

                    Upna nei  i cih ciang in i muh theih nailoh i lamete ngah takpi ding ci-in muanna lungsim neihna a hihi.(Heb.11: 1) Thukham leh gamtatna pha hangin hotkhitnki ngahlo a, hotkhiatna thu ah upna hangin gamtatna hoih kisam hi.

                    Na si na sa uh nopsak nangin tua suahtakna zangkei un.(Gal.5:3) Tua a hihleh, upna hangin thukham ipaai khia hiam, tua bang hi loin thukham i kipsak hi.(Rom.3:31) .Si leh sa in Khasiangtho tawh kido hi. (Gal.5:17). Na gamtat uh hoihsak tawntung un.( 1Pet.2:12). Kha omlo pumpi in a si ahih mah bang in gamtatna pha omlo upna in a si hi.(James2:26) .Gitlohna na lel kei un. Gamtatpha tawh gitlohna na zo un.(Rom.12:21) . Gamtathoih zom un.(Titus 3:1-8). I nuntakna ah,gamtat hoih a nei ding a hong bawl i hihi.(Eph.2: 10). Upna lungsim tawh a kituak lo gamtatna khempeuh mawhna hi.(Rom .14:23).

                    Gamtatna hoih akisam lua ahihi.(Rom.2: 6-7). Banghanghiam i cih leh Pasian in mi khempeuh a gamtatna uhtawh kizui-in thukkik ding hi. Pahtakna leh hintawntungna deih in a gamtat hoih tawntungmite tungah Pasian in nuntak tawntungna piading aa,ahi zong in a ma’deihna bek zui-in a gamtatding a kilawmbang in gamta loin, a maanlo in agamta mite tungah Pasian in a maa hehna hang in gimna atungsak ding hi.

                    A gamtat hoih mite pen a nungta tawntung dingin hong tho kik ding uh a, a gamtat siate a hih leh mawhsakna thukhenna a thuak ding in hong tho kik ding uh hi.(John. 5:29;Pau. 12:14).

                    Tua ahihman in Pasianthu a um te in gamtathoih aneihtheih na ding un hih ka hongthugente na lim ngaihsut nading un ka deihhi.(Titus. 3:8). Tua ahih man in upna leh sepna kizom khawm a, sepna in upna akicinsakna thu nathei uh hi.(James.2: 22-26).”Kei kiang ah Topa aw,Topa aw, hong ci mi khempeuh vantung ki-ukna sungah lut thei kim lo ding uh aa, vantung a om ka Pa’ deihna bangin a gamtate bek lut ding uh hi.”(Matt. 7:21).

                    Banghang hiam cih leh Christ mai ah thusitna a thuak ding in eite khempeuh a kilak ding ihi a, leitung i pumpi-in i om lai-in i gamtatna tawh ki zui-in eite tawh a ki tuak ciat in a sia a hi a, a pha a hi zong in a ngah ciat ding I hihi.(2Cor.5: 10). Hih thu hang in na upna ban uh ah, gamtat hoihna tawh nab eh lap un. (2Pet.1:5). A pha a gamtatna ding mi tampi ahilhte pen aksi bangin a taang tawntuanng  ding uh hi. (Dan.12:3).

                    Hih a tung aa LST mun te en kik leng upna leh gamtatna kigawm aa aluankhop zia teltak in I mu thei hi. LST tungtawn in Khasiangtho in muntampi ah hong hilh hi.Budish te thu kihilh na bek hi zenzen lo hi.Christian semsem gamtat hoih kisam semsem hizaw hi.

                     Gamtatna tawh kisai pawlkhat te tel dan pen lokhawh,singpuak( work)cih dan te pawlbek hi leh ki lawm sang.Tua ahih le bel a mau cih bang in gamtatna kisamlo mah kha ding hi.Tu in ei te cihnop gamtatna in(virtue)a hihi.  Gam tatna kisam kei, upna bek a ci mite St. James in, lawm haite (james2:20) na ci giap ek hi.

                    Na up kei leh na en pah lian le teh!!!

                    Heh  nang om lo kup pih na hi.

                     

                    --- On Fri, 9/4/09, suang dal <suangdal@yahoo. com> wrote:


                    From: suang dal <suangdal@yahoo. com>
                    Subject: [ ZOGAMNET ] Faith without work is death? Evidence of Justification
                    To: blessedzomi@ yahoogroups. com
                    Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:22 PM

                     

                    Justification is a legal term in the NT especially in the books of Romans.

                    Romans 8: 30 say “And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified”.

                    The implication of Justification

                    Our salvation is justification by Grace through Faith Alone in Jesus Christ Alone, and is the heart of the Gospel. A true Christian must go through the experience of Justification and Sanctification.

                    Salvation is planed by God the Father because the plan is prior to the execution. Justification is done for us by God the Son. Sanctification is being performed in a true believer’s daily life by the work of the Holy Spirit. Not the human spirit that work in you to believe. Romans 9: 16 say “So then it is not of him, who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy”. It is the Holy Spirit that regenerates you to believe. Salvation is not by generation. Salvation is by the regeneration of the Holy Spirit. Philippians 2: 13 say “for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure”. So we can say our sanctification is just the fruit of justification not vice versa. And justification is the ground for sanctification. Salvation has a past reference (Eph. 2: 8) and a present experience (1 Cor 1: 18) and a future hope (Rom 5: 9). A true believer have been justified and being sanctified and will be glorified yet. In other word, if you are a true believer, then, you have been saved and are being saved and will be saved yet. God the Father elects. God the Son justifies you on the Cross. God the Holy Spirit sanctifies you. God the Holy Spirit will not sanctify you if you are not justified first. A truly sanctifying life is the result of a truly justifying not vice versa. The evidences are never being the cause. You cannot add any effort to your justification because it is a once for all event. It is done fully and can be done only by Christ. It is not a half done left event. God never left half done. Our salvation is in God’s hand. Salvation belongs to God (Jonah 2: 9). So we can say God’s preservation for salvation is evidenced in true believers’ perseverance. The perseverance of the saints is the preservation of God. No one is perfect. But let not this statement for excuse. We cannot gain perfection by our own effort here on earth. But we can pursue perfection in the only name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. However, Christ’s perfect holiness, obedience, faithfulness and righteousness can be imputed to us. Not infused. You are not the infused one. You are the imputed one. This imputation can be clothed to you by believing in Jesus Christ.

                     

                    Justification by Faith

                    “For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, now that we are  reconciled, shall we be saved by His life” (Romans 5: 10).

                     

                    We just have said that imputation can be clothed unto us by believing. But I am not saved or justified by believing. Rather, I simply realize I am saved by believing. Supposing, when someone massages your body, you just simply must have to realize and believe that you are being massaged. Primarily, the reason why you say “yes” on the massage performing on you is not because you say “yes” but because it is being performing on you by someone not by yourself that is why you must believe and must say “yes”.  Moreover, it is not repentance that saves me and justifies me. Repentance is only the sign that I realize what God has done through Christ Jesus so as sanctification is the result of justification. The danger here is putting the emphasis on the effect (sanctification) , instead of on the cause (justification) .

                    Ephesians 2: 8 says “Faith itself is the gift of God”.

                     

                    Is it my perfect obedience, perfect consecration, and perfect dedication that make me right with God?

                    It is never that! I am made right with God because, prior to all of that, Christ died. As a result of the supernatural miracle of God’s grace I stand justified, not because I am sorry for my sin, but because of what Jesus has done. True believer will know he is saved, even though he doesn’t know how it was accomplished on him/her.

                    Salvation that comes from God is not based on human logic, but on the sacrificial death of Jesus. Sinful men and women can be changed into new creations, not through their repentance or their belief, but through the wonderful work of God in Christ Jesus which preceded all of our experience (2Corinthians 5: 17-19). You are to have experience only if something is done on you. You are to have experience of justification and sanctification in order to become a true Christian. Your experience will never be the cause of your salvation. The unconquerable safety of justification and sanctification is God Himself. God always takes the initiative of all. In the case of good God is directing. But in the case of evil God is overruling. The supernatural becomes natural to us through the miracle of God, and there is the realization of what Jesus Christ has already done—“It is finished!” (John 19: 30)

                     

                    Faith without work is death-James 2: 26

                    Faith without the work of Christ is death. But Christian faith is alive compared to other religions because Jesus works for us. It is alive because it is the work of Christ. The work of Christ is our Faith. Thus our faith involves work, the work of Christ not your work.

                    Therefore, our Christian faith your faith my faith is not a death faith. If our faith is without the work of Jesus, then, it is indeed a death faith. In fact, our faith is with work. Our faith is with the work of Jesus. Not with your work. So our faith is not death. Any faith that is without the work of Christ is a death faith. Faith + the work of Christ on Calvary. Thus, Faith without the work of Christ on Calvary is death.

                     

                    Paul deals with justification “before God”-Romans 4: 1-3

                    James deals with justification “before men”. (See James 2: 14 “though a man says”; 2: 18 “a man may say”; 2: 18 “show me”; “I will show you”; 2: 24 “you see”)

                    1.      Without faith you cannot stand before God

                    2.      Without work evidences you cannot show your faith in Christ to other religions. The evidence must be unique. And the uniqueness is by faith alone. Although some forms of bhakti Hinduism and Pure Land Buddhism do teach that salvation cannot be attained through one’s own efforts but rather is a gift from another being, Islam, along with most other religious traditions including Theravada Buddhism, teaches that salvation is based on one’s own deeds. This is also almost the teaching of Roman Catholic teaching nowadays. But the Bible clearly states that salvation is not something that human beings can earn through their own efforts; it is the gift of God’s grace, which is to be accepted by faith (Rom. 3: 20, 28; Eph. 2: 8-9). The core teaching of the Bible is by Faith. And that is our evangelical faith.

                     

                    Paul and James are like 69 not contrast (69 looks contrast but are one that makes a complete number sixty nine)

                    Paul speaks of faith because God alone can see faith in the heart.

                    James speaks of a living faith which produces works in the outward life of a man which can be seen and examined by other men (James 2: 14, 17-20)

                    Paul draws his illustration from Genesis. 15: 6, wherein the conversion of Abraham is recorded. Paul refers to Abraham’s justification by faith alone (Sola Fide). Thus, he is dealing with Abraham’s salvation

                    James draws his illustration from Genesis 22: 1-19, where, after being a believer for many years, Abraham is asked to give evidence to everyone of his love to and faith in God. James refers to Abraham after he was justified.

                    In short, Paul’s key phrase is “before God” and James’s key phrase is “show me” (James 2: 18). James could not see faith if it was not manifested by works.

                    Let me remind you in my own word. The evidence or the manifestation is not the cause of faith. It is just the fruit. The tree is known by its fruit (Mtt 12: 33). But the fruit is not the first cause. The first cause is the tree.

                    The truly justified will evidence his justification by faith—in good works

                     

                    Outside of Justification God Never Knew You

                    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven…Matthew 7: 21.

                    The question is “what is the will of the Father?”

                    One of the first answers for me to this question is

                    Acts 4: 12 that say “And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven among men by which we must be saved. (The name is Jesus Christ alone).

                    John 14: 6, Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me”. (Only one way that is in Christ)

                    1 Corinthians 1: 21 say “For since, in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. (The will of God is to preach Christ crucified on the Cross for sinners even though it is a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles, but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God).

                    Romans 1: 16, 17 say “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, “The righteous shall live by faith.” (The will of the Father is to live by faith is His Son Jesus Christ).

                    Hebrews 1: 1-3 say “Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Jesus Christ), whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. (Jesus Christ is God last revelation for mankind).

                     

                    In short, what I want to make the point here is that the will of the Father is not just external religious performing in other religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism or Romanism and so on…The will of the Father will only be found in Christ Jesus alone. It is revealed more than enough in the Bible. The will of the Father is justification by Grace through faith alone in Christ Jesus alone. Not by work. The fact is you have to be justified now by faith. A Burmese proverb says “Good begin good end”. The good beginning is by faith in Jesus Christ that is to be saved you from the past, present and future sin. We must seek first the righteousness of Christ by faith (Mtt 6: 33). Not by work. Faith is the first thing to be received then work will be added. The added one is not the cause of faith. Christian salvation is not from ignorance (Buddhism). It is from sin (Christian).

                     

                    Ignorance vs. Sin

                    Many religions, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism, identify the root problem afflicting humankind as ignorance about the true nature of reality. But the Bible teaches that the problem is not ignorance but sin, that is, deliberately rejection of God and his ways (Isa. 59: 2; Rom. 3: 9-26). Moreover, contrary to Confucianism, the Bible teaches that after the fall of Adam and Eve all humankind has been corrupted by sin infecting their moral nature, so that people are not inherently good but sinful (Genesis 3; Rom. 3: 9-20; 5: 12-14).

                     

                    Unqualified Question vs. Qualified Question

                    One such unqualified question here is “Can a true believer loose his or her salvation?” (Since it is true how can he lose?).

                    Qualified question “Can a sinner be justified?” These two questions are the different between unbelievers and true believers. According to the second question, unbelievers can be justified. But true believers cannot be lost. The fact is you must be true. However, unbelievers cannot be justified if they reject to be justified. Since they will not be justified by their own rejection they have been lost from the very beginning even though they are with us. The book of Hebrews 6: 4-6 talks about whether salvation can be lost? The fact is salvation can surely be lost by way of not accepting in true repentance and true conversion unto the forgiveness of the Lord Jesus Christ. On the other hand, there is no such potential apostasy for true believers. I mean there is no such potential for a true believer to lose his or her salvation because he or she is true from the beginning with God. The problem that salvation can be lost is treating the unbelievers as true believers. The fact is they are not true believers. They are just treated as true believers. That’s the problem that raise unqualified question such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation?” We must be able to ask a right question for right answer such as “Can a sinner be truly justified?” Yes! On the other hand, it is irrelevant to ask such as “Can a true believer lose his salvation again?”

                    True repentance, true conversion in Christ will never lose you from your salvation, by which, you once have been truly forgiven. I thought you are a true Christian! Aren’t you? Yes. You are! If so, you have to accept this. Bad end manifests bad begin. Good end testifies good begin. Good begin will never lose its end. Bad begin will always lose its end. Good begin always starts with God. Bad begin starts with man. You chose your salvation and you lose. God chooses your salvation and you are not lost.

                     

                    One last note

                    1.      Somebody asked me “Do Christian eat blood?” My answer to them is “Yes. We Christian do eat blood. The fact is we do not drink blood”

                     

                    2.      A similar question is asked to me again “Is it right to say once saved always saved?” My answer to them is “In the context of God it is true. But in the context of Satan it is deceitful.”

                     

                    Article references

                    1.      ESV Study Bible... p. 2628—Biblical Theme and Other Religions.

                    2.      From Grace Ministerial Academy lecture on “Doctrine of Salvation”--by Pastor Noel A. Espinosa

                    3.      Oswald Champers’ “My Utmost for His Highest—Edited by James Reimann

                     

                    Brother Dal

                       Zomi

                    From Chin State

                    In Myanmar

                    (Manila)

                     

                    Evidence of Justification



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