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  • Jim K.
    Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us- Thanks to Honey for helping out on Friday! Turning to page xv and reading through to the end
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 1, 2004
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      Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us-

      Thanks to Honey for helping out on Friday!

      Turning to page xv and reading through to the end of the foreword to
      the second edition we have a brief history of AA presented. At the
      top of page xvi the "alcoholic friend" was Ebby Thatcher, sober two
      months in the Oxford Groups. The Oxford Groups were a fundamentalist
      Christian movement that sought to practice the principles of first
      century Christianity. Vestiges of this movement survive to this day
      although the movement has experienced many transformations and is no
      longer called the Oxford Groups or Movement. Dr. William D.
      Silkworth is the physician who introduced Bill to the allergy theory
      and the mental obsession of alcoholism. Bill and Dr. Bob Smith met
      at Henrietta Sieberling's house (of the Sieberling rubber and tire
      family) through an introduction by Rev. Walter Tunks. When Bill was
      pacing up and down the hotel lobby of the Mayflower Hotel in Akron
      he was trying to choose between going to the bar and scraping up an
      acquaintance or search for an alcoholic to help. Forunately for
      all of us he looked at the Church Register. He picked Rev. Tunks'
      name because it was an unusual name and he had a thing for unusual
      names. Turns out that Rev. Tunks was a member of the Oxford Group in
      the Akron area and steered Bill toward Dr. Bob Smith through
      Henrietta Sieberling. Dr. Bob was also involved with the Oxford
      Group, though still unable to stop drinking. The first time the two
      of them met they spoke for five hours, and this after Bob had
      elicited a promise from his wife Anne that the meeting would last no
      more than 15 minutes.

      Paragraph 1, page xvii - AA number three was named Bill Dotson -
      "the man on the bed". When Bill and Bob approached Bill Dotson in
      the hospital they had him moved from the ward to a private room
      known as "The Flower Room". The only people who had private rooms in
      hospitals in those days were the rich or, in the case of "The Flower
      Room", the people about to die. Bill D., being destitute, thought he
      was dying after being brought to "The Flower Room", maybe it helped
      Bill and Bob carry the message to him.

      Keep in mind that the book hasn't been written yet and Bill and Bob
      would work through the next couple of years carrying the message.
      They used the Oxford Groups Four Absolutes; Absolute Love, Purity,
      Unselfishness and Honesty. Tall order for any alcoholic. It wasn't
      until the "Drunk Squad" of the Oxford Groups separated from the
      Oxford Groups, starting in New York, in 1937-8 that AA itself became
      a separate entity. The first meeting to be called "a meeting of
      Alcoholics Anonymous" was held in Cleveland under the auspices of
      Clarence S. in 1939.

      More on the foreword to the second edition and the beginning of the
      Doctor's Opinion tomorrow.

      Jim
    • Jim K.
      Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us- Note - I confused everyone with an editing error. There was a sentance before the recipe that
      Message 2 of 3 , Jul 28, 2004
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        Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us-

        Note - I confused everyone with an editing error. There was a
        sentance before the recipe that was missing:

        "I look forward to it every time I see my Aunt Pat out in Newton, New
        Jersey. She makes a wonderful strawberry shortcake".

        Sorry for the oops...now back to the study-

        Turning to page xv and reading through to the end of the foreword to
        the second edition we have a brief history of AA presented. At the
        top of page xvi the "alcoholic friend" was Ebby Thatcher, sober two
        months in the Oxford Groups. The Oxford Groups were a fundamentalist
        Christian movement that sought to practice the principles of first
        century Christianity. Vestiges of this movement survive to this day
        although the movement has experienced many transformations and is no
        longer called the Oxford Groups or Movement. Dr. William D.
        Silkworth is the physician who introduced Bill to the allergy theory
        and the mental obsession of alcoholism. Bill and Dr. Bob Smith met
        at Henrietta Sieberling's house (of the Sieberling rubber and tire
        family) through an introduction by Rev. Walter Tunks. When Bill was
        pacing up and down the hotel lobby of the Mayflower Hotel in Akron
        he was trying to choose between going to the bar and scraping up an
        acquaintance or search for an alcoholic to help. Forunately for
        all of us he looked at the Church Register. He picked Rev. Tunks'
        name because it was an unusual name and he had a thing for unusual
        names. Turns out that Rev. Tunks was a member of the Oxford Group in
        the Akron area and steered Bill toward Dr. Bob Smith through
        Henrietta Sieberling. Dr. Bob was also involved with the Oxford
        Group, though still unable to stop drinking. The first time the two
        of them met they spoke for five hours, and this after Bob had
        elicited a promise from his wife Anne that the meeting would last no
        more than 15 minutes.

        Paragraph 1, page xvii - AA number three was named Bill Dotson -
        "the man on the bed". When Bill and Bob approached Bill Dotson in
        the hospital they had him moved from the ward to a private room
        known as "The Flower Room". The only people who had private rooms in
        hospitals in those days were the rich or, in the case of "The Flower
        Room", the people about to die. Bill D., being destitute, thought he
        was dying after being brought to "The Flower Room", maybe it helped
        Bill and Bob carry the message to him.

        Keep in mind that the book hasn't been written yet and Bill and Bob
        would work through the next couple of years carrying the message.
        They used the Oxford Groups Four Absolutes; Absolute Love, Purity,
        Unselfishness and Honesty. Tall order for any alcoholic. It wasn't
        until the "Drunk Squad" of the Oxford Groups separated from the
        Oxford Groups, starting in New York, in 1937-8 that AA itself became
        a separate entity. The first meeting to be called "a meeting of
        Alcoholics Anonymous" was held in Cleveland under the auspices of
        Clarence S. in 1939.

        More on the foreword to the second edition and the beginning of the
        Doctor's Opinion tomorrow.

        Jim
      • Jim K.
        Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us- Turning to page xv and reading through to the end of the foreword to the second edition we
        Message 3 of 3 , Sep 23, 2004
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          Good morning everyone, welcome to those who have just joined us-

          Turning to page xv and reading through to the end of the foreword to
          the second edition we have a brief history of AA presented. At the
          top of page xvi the "alcoholic friend" was Ebby Thatcher, sober two
          months in the Oxford Groups. The Oxford Groups were a fundamentalist
          Christian movement that sought to practice the principles of first
          century Christianity. Vestiges of this movement survive to this day
          although the movement has experienced many transformations and is no
          longer called the Oxford Groups or Movement. Dr. William D.
          Silkworth is the physician who introduced Bill to the allergy theory
          and the mental obsession of alcoholism. Bill and Dr. Bob Smith met
          at Henrietta Sieberling's house (of the Sieberling rubber and tire
          family) through an introduction by Rev. Walter Tunks. When Bill was
          pacing up and down the hotel lobby of the Mayflower Hotel in Akron
          he was trying to choose between going to the bar and scraping up an
          acquaintance or search for an alcoholic to help. Forunately for
          all of us he looked at the Church Register. He picked Rev. Tunks'
          name because it was an unusual name and he had a thing for unusual
          names. Turns out that Rev. Tunks was a member of the Oxford Group in
          the Akron area and steered Bill toward Dr. Bob Smith through
          Henrietta Sieberling. Dr. Bob was also involved with the Oxford
          Group, though still unable to stop drinking. The first time the two
          of them met they spoke for five hours, and this after Bob had
          elicited a promise from his wife Anne that the meeting would last no
          more than 15 minutes.

          Paragraph 1, page xvii - AA number three was named Bill Dotson -
          "the man on the bed". When Bill and Bob approached Bill Dotson in
          the hospital they had him moved from the ward to a private room
          known as "The Flower Room". The only people who had private rooms in
          hospitals in those days were the rich or, in the case of "The Flower
          Room", the people about to die. Bill D., being destitute, thought he
          was dying after being brought to "The Flower Room", maybe it helped
          Bill and Bob carry the message to him.

          Keep in mind that the book hasn't been written yet and Bill and Bob
          would work through the next couple of years carrying the message.
          They used the Oxford Groups Four Absolutes; Absolute Love, Purity,
          Unselfishness and Honesty. Tall order for any alcoholic. It wasn't
          until the "Drunk Squad" of the Oxford Groups separated from the
          Oxford Groups, starting in New York, in 1937-8 that AA itself became
          a separate entity. The first meeting to be called "a meeting of
          Alcoholics Anonymous" was held in Cleveland under the auspices of
          Clarence S. in 1939.

          More on the foreword to the second edition and the beginning of the
          Doctor's Opinion with our next post.

          Jim
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