Matthew 26:39, against Christ's two natures
- Matthew 26:39 --
"And He went a little beyond them, and fell on His
face and prayed, saying, "My Father, if it is
possible, let this cup pass from Me; yet not as I
will, but as Thou wilt."
Question: How much of Jesus said the "not as I will"
part? Only his human nature, only his divine nature,
He is one person, isn't he? His natures aren't mixed,
but harmoniously united, right? Jesus IS "god and
man, in completeness", right?
Then what exactly is wrong with saying Jesus was
speaking BOTH as God AND as a man, at the same time,
there in Matthew 26:39?
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> >>He'd wish the death penalty on anybody who was
>remember that God
> Not really part of this conversation, but you might
> judges justly, and accepts repentence (see the Bookof Job and the
> case of Ninevah).Since we agree that God punishes out of hope to bring
a change of heart, we can assume that when God sends
punishment, he is looking for a change of heart.
Ezekiel 8, NASB --
15 And He said to me, "Do you see this, son of man?
Yet you will see still greater abominations than
16 Then He brought me into the inner court of the LORD
's house. And behold, at the entrance to the temple of
the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about
twenty-five men with their backs to the temple of the
LORD and their faces toward the east; and they were
prostrating themselves eastward toward the sun.
17 And He said to me, "Do you see this, son of man? Is
it too light a thing for the house of Judah to commit
the abominations which they have committed here, that
they have filled the land with violence and provoked
Me repeatedly? For behold, they are putting the twig
to their nose.
18 "Therefore, I indeed shall deal in wrath. My eye
will have no pity nor shall I spare; and though they
cry in My ears with a loud voice, yet I shall not
listen to them."
We can also safely assume that many of those who
endured this punishment, cried out not just because of
the punishment itself, but also because the punishment
made them realize the error of their way.
Unfortunately, God specifically says that he will not
listen to their cries.
This then is a case of God sending punishment and
making up his mind not to listen to any cries that
result, when in fact it's no great leap to assume some
of those crying did so in real repentence.
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