1797Re: Response to Rob Bowman on 1 Cor. 8:6 (Patrick)
- Oct 9, 2007Patrick,
<< Rob, I have already given you a free electronic copy of my book
that you said you were going to review. >>
I have checked my files and could find only two chapters of your
book, the first one and the one on "I am" sayings. I'm not saying
you didn't send me the entire book, but I just don't seem to have it.
Feel free to send it to me (again?) and I will try to look at it.
May I infer from your response, then, that I will find the answers
to my questions about what you believe in the book? I ask, because
the following paragraph from your post does not. You wrote:
<< You also said that you have already read the intro and first
chapter published on my website. My book (and everything I have
written in these exchanges thus far) clearly articulates my positive
belief about God and Christ. But for the record (again), I believe,
with Paul that the one God is "the Father." Since Paul (Jesus, and
the ancient prophets) did not affirm belief in the doctrine of the
Trinity, neither do I. I believe what Paul said, and what Jesus said
(John 17:3; 1 Cor. 8:6) and simply do not go beyond the simple and
straightforward concepts these texts communicate.
I also believe that Jesus is "the Messiah (the annointed), the Son
of the living God" (Matthew 16) in the sense that this expression
communicates at face value. That is, I believe there is a living God
(the Father) and that Jesus is the Son of that living God. The true
God, in my view, is "the Father of" my "Lord Jesus Christ" not
the "Trinity." >>
From my perspective, Patrick, you seem to be avoiding answering my
questions. I know you believe that the "one God" is "the Father." I
know you do not affirm the Trinity. I know you affirm that Jesus
is "the Messiah" and "the Son of God." I don't know what you think
this means. Saying that you take these expressions "at face value"
does not help, because different religions have different opinions
as to the "face value" significance of these expressions.
As I said before, I want to know if you believe Jesus existed before
creation, participated in the creation of all things, sustains the
universe by the word of his power, is present with his disciples
whenever and wherever they gather in his name, knows the hearts of
all people, is the proper recipient of worship, religious service,
doxological praise, petitionary prayer, holy reverence or fear,
spiritual songs of adoration, and the like. If you are telling me
that your book answers these questions, fine. I look forward to
reading it and seeing your answers. (I don't recall the material I
did read addressing these questions at all.) If not, I would
appreciate it if you would answer these questions.
In Christ's service,
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