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  • H
    Alison- The Bee Lab in Logan only has one bee databased from collections off of *C. virginica*. I have observed from a very limited collecting experience in
    Message 1 of 9 , Mar 10, 2010
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      Alison- The Bee Lab in Logan only has one bee databased from collections off of C. virginica. I have observed from a very limited collecting experience in the east that where you find C. virginica you will find A. erigeniae.

      I've inclued a excell sheet of the lab's sole record of collection from C. virginica as well as all of the locality data from GBIF's portal.

      All the best,
      Ike




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      On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Alison Parker <alisonjparker@...> wrote:
       

      Hello,

      I'm a graduate student studying Claytonia virginica (spring beauty) and it's specialist pollinator, Andrena erigeniae. I'm working in various locations this year, and would like to add to the list. If you know of a location that has a large population and/or high density of spring beauties, I'd really appreciate hearing about it! In particular, I am interested in relatively intact locations that would be conducive to fieldwork (state parks, reserves, etc), and I'm especially interested in populations in Georgia, Pennsylvania, New York, or southern Ontario.

      Thanks very much,
      Alison


      Alison Parker
      PhD student, Thomson lab
      University of Toronto
      25 Harbord Street
      Toronto, ON M5S 3G5 Canada


    • H
      Now for the attachment....
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      Now for the attachment....


      On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:35 AM, H <hikerd@...> wrote:
      Alison- The Bee Lab in Logan only has one bee databased from collections off of C. virginica. I have observed from a very limited collecting experience in the east that where you find C. virginica you will find A. erigeniae.

      I've inclued a excell sheet of the lab's sole record of collection from C. virginica as well as all of the locality data from GBIF's portal.

      All the best,
      Ike




      HW Ikerd
      Hikerd@...
      435-227-5711 (Google Voice)
      435-797-2425(work)





      On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Alison Parker <alisonjparker@...> wrote:
       

      Hello,

      I'm a graduate student studying Claytonia virginica (spring beauty) and it's specialist pollinator, Andrena erigeniae. I'm working in various locations this year, and would like to add to the list. If you know of a location that has a large population and/or high density of spring beauties, I'd really appreciate hearing about it! In particular, I am interested in relatively intact locations that would be conducive to fieldwork (state parks, reserves, etc), and I'm especially interested in populations in Georgia, Pennsylvania, New York, or southern Ontario.

      Thanks very much,
      Alison


      Alison Parker
      PhD student, Thomson lab
      University of Toronto
      25 Harbord Street
      Toronto, ON M5S 3G5 Canada



    • Joe Metzger
      Alison, There are good populations of Spring Beauty at Great Falls Park in northern VA and also across the Potomac in the Carderock area of the C & O Canal in
      Message 3 of 9 , Mar 11, 2010
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        Alison,
         
                  There are good populations of Spring Beauty at Great Falls Park in northern VA and also across the Potomac in the Carderock area of the C & O Canal in MD. I'm sure there are other parks in the Washington area which have good populations as well. You might check "Finding Wildflowers in the Baltimore Washington Area" by Cris Fleming and Marion Lobstein for additional locations. This is a little more than an hour away from Catoctin Mountain Park which Becky recommends.
         
                  I'm also curious why you call Andrena erigeniae, a specialist pollinator of Spring Beauty. It's specific name would imply that it pollinates Harbinger of Spring (Erigenia bulbosa) which blooms over a much shorter period and earlier than Spring Beauty (Claytonia virginica). Harbinger of Spring can be found at the two parks I've mentioned above and they are sometimes associated with Spring Beauty but Spring Beauty blooms over a much longer period and usually starts a little later.
         
                                                Joe Metzger
         

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        Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:39:48 -0500
        Subject: Re: [beemonitoring] Spring beauty locations? [2 Attachments]

         
        [Attachment(s) from becky_loncosky@... included below] Hello Alison,

        Here at Catoctin Mountain Park in northern Maryland there is a good population of spring beauties. I even did some collecting of bees in an area where there are a lot of spring beauties using bowls. I have not IDéd the bees from that group yet, so I can't tell you if the bee you are interested in was among those collected. Feel free to contact me if you are interested in pursuing a research permit.

        Becky Loncosky
        Biologist
        Catoctin Mountain Park
        6602 Foxville Road
        Thurmont, MD 21788
        301 416 0536


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        Hello,

        I'm a graduate student studying Claytonia virginica (spring beauty) and it's specialist pollinator, Andrena erigeniae. I'm working in various locations this year, and would like to add to the list. If you know of a location that has a large population and/or high density of spring beauties, I'd really appreciate hearing about it! In particular, I am interested in relatively intact locations that would be conducive to fieldwork (state parks, reserves, etc), and I'm especially interested in populations in Georgia, Pennsylvania, New York, or southern Ontario.

        Thanks very much,
        Alison


        Alison Parker
        PhD student, Thomson lab
        University of Toronto
        25 Harbord Street
        Toronto, ON M5S 3G5 Canada






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      • Jack Neff
        This is almost certainly one of the many cases where a bee was named for the plant it was first collected on, rather than something it was actually host
        Message 4 of 9 , Mar 11, 2010
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          This is almost certainly one of the many cases where a bee was named for the plant it was first collected on, rather than something it was actually host specific to.  Calliopsis helianthi is an oligolege of Euphorbiaceae, not sunflowers; Andrena astragali is  a specialist on Zigadenus, not Astragalus and so forth.

          best

          Jack
           
          John L. Neff
          Central Texas Melittological Institute
          7307 Running Rope
          Austin,TX 78731 USA
          512-345-7219



          From: Joe Metzger <jmetzger50@...>
          To: BeeMonitoring <beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 4:56:27 AM
          Subject: RE: [beemonitoring] Spring beauty locations?

           

          Alison,
           
                    There are good populations of Spring Beauty at Great Falls Park in northern VA and also across the Potomac in the Carderock area of the C & O Canal in MD. I'm sure there are other parks in the Washington area which have good populations as well. You might check "Finding Wildflowers in the Baltimore Washington Area" by Cris Fleming and Marion Lobstein for additional locations. This is a little more than an hour away from Catoctin Mountain Park which Becky recommends.
           
                    I'm also curious why you call Andrena erigeniae, a specialist pollinator of Spring Beauty. It's specific name would imply that it pollinates Harbinger of Spring (Erigenia bulbosa) which blooms over a much shorter period and earlier than Spring Beauty (Claytonia virginica). Harbinger of Spring can be found at the two parks I've mentioned above and they are sometimes associated with Spring Beauty but Spring Beauty blooms over a much longer period and usually starts a little later.
           
                                                  Joe Metzger
           





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