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Re: [beemonitoring] Honey in Georgia

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  • Charles Guevara
        Hello Claus....I m skeptical about: a quantity of bears grease preserved in pots ...these tramping speculators had quite tunnel-vision obsession to
    Message 1 of 3 , May 10, 2009
          Hello Claus....I'm skeptical about:"a quantity of bears grease preserved in pots"...these tramping speculators had quite tunnel-vision obsession to resources they could take...I doubt what was in that 'quantity of grease'/ wether or not it 'was preserved' could be accurately noted by the scribe/missionary-invader.  The journal entry of 'honey'...could quite naturally be processed sap of many tropical plants( honey being similar to 'mapel syrup' , especially to a beleauguered tramping invader?).  Then there was frenzy for both native vast amounts of refined gold, and for a literal 'fountain of youth'!
         See the widely available Klaus Kinskey film:" The Rath of A...", for quite tangible insights to  de Sotos 'mind set'.  A 'maple syrup type' processed tropical confection could easily be mistaken for  what we here call:'honey'.   charlie guevara  NJ,US

      --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Claus <alrunen@...> wrote:

      From: Claus <alrunen@...>
      Subject: [beemonitoring] Honey in Georgia
      To: beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 3:06 PM

      Hi all,

      I recently got a question I thought did not have a very obvious answer. Maybe some of you can help me here. When reading de Soto's narrative of the Conquest of Florida, the following statement is made:

          On the second day of their march, they entered
          the small town of Canasauga, where they were
          met by twenty Indians, bearing baskets of mulber
          ries, a fruit which abounded in this region, as did
          likewise the nut and plum trees. Continuing for
          ward for five days, through a desert country, on the
          25th of June they came in sight of Ichiaha, thirty
          leagues from Guaxule.

          This village stood on one end of an island, more
          than five leagues in length. The Cacique came out
          to receive the Governor, and gave him a friendly
          welcome ; his warriors treated the soldiers in the
          same kind and frank manner. They crossed the
          river in many canoes, and on rafts prepared for the
          purpose, and were quartered by the Indians, in
          their houses. Most of the soldiers, however, en
          camped under the trees around the village, and their
          worn out horses enjoyed rich and abundant pastur
          age in the neighbouring meadows. The Spaniards
          found in this village a quantity of bears grease pre
          served in pots, and likewise oil made from the wal
          nut, and a pot of honey. The latter they had not
          seen before, nor did they ever again meet with it
          during their wanderings.

      The question I got was which kind of honey did they offer the soldiers? This is before the European honey bee was brought over to the Americas. There were no stingless bees at this time in Georgia as far as I know, the honey wasps are not reported from Georgia, and lastly, could this just be some mapple syrup or would there be other sources of honey in Georgia?




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