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RE: [beemonitoring] A presentation on Lithurgus crysurus

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  • Weber, Don
    Peter et al., The best means for accomplishing this, I think, is to be proactive and designate a common name through the Entomological Society of America.
    Message 1 of 44 , Sep 5, 2012

      Peter et al.,

      The best means for accomplishing this, I think, is to be proactive and designate a common name through the Entomological Society of America.  Their committee responsible for this is shown here: http://www.entsoc.org/about_esa/governance/other/committees/standing_index with the following text:

      Committee on the Common Names of Insects
      The Committee on Common Names of Insects shall consist of nine At-Large members. The purpose of the Committee shall be to review proposals for common names and recommend names to be used in publications of the Society for approval by the Governing Board.

      The link to the roster is for ESA members only; someone who is a member could submit (on behalf of all supporters) a suitable common name with supporting info as detailed (such as history of use, conflicts with other names, etc.) by the committee.

      Hope this helps,





      From: beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com [mailto:beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bernhardt
      Sent: Wednesday, 05 September, 2012 11:15
      To: Jack Neff
      Cc: Brian Dykstra; Anita M. Collins; beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [beemonitoring] A presentation on Lithurgus crysurus



      This is an important point.  What is the value of common names when we attempt to educate the public?  If we stop referring to L. chrysurus as a carpenter bee should we come up with another common name (Japanese wood bee?) or try to convince the public to learn the  scientific name?


      There is a great public resistance to scientific names in America you don't see in some other English speaking countries especially England and Australia. The gardening and natural history "impulse" remains strong and people with some high school training in biology often prefer to use scientific names (of plants, mind you) or they turn the scientific name into a common name.  For example, instead of planting gum tree and native honeysuckles in Australia you now plant eucalypts and banksias.


      We may becoming victims of our own success.  As the general public becomes aware that there are many more "kinds of bees" than commercial honeybees and bumblebees what do we tell them to call everything else?  Well, in the past we've generalized and referred to yellow-faced bees, miner bees, cuckoo bees, leaf cutter bees, carpenter bees etc.  If you go to Youtube and look for a video of Megachile sculpturalis it's listed under the name, giant Asian resin bee.  In England, some people call members of the genus Anthophora "flower bees" (not very original).  In Australia, one entomologist is trying to convince people to call Amegilla bombiformis the "teddy bear bee" (look it up, the name is apt).  What should we be doing to familiarize a well-meaning public who have never had basic school training in taxonomy (plant or animal)?  Should we make up common names or "anglicize" genera; eg. andrenas, xylocopes, megachiles, nomias etc.? 


      One thing is for certain.  if the hardware and home protection industry identify L. chrysurus as a "threat" to property it will get a common name but it may not be the  one we think is appropriate.  






      On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jack Neff <jlnatctmi@...> wrote:


      Lithurgus chrysurus is a carpenter bee in the sense that, like most Xylocopa spp., it excavates its nests in wood (although wood boring bee would probably be more accurate since what they do has little to do with carpentry).  However, that was not the reason for my comment.  To reiterate, the term carpenter bee has long been used as a common name for various Xylocopa species.  In fact, "carpenter bee" is the registered common name of Xylocopa virginica in the American Entomological Society's list of "official" common names.  Loosely using carpenter bee for an unrelated group is only likely to sew confusion.  Abandoning traditional definitions, we might as well start calling all the various other megachilids and halictids which excavate their nests in wood carpenter bees as well.  Carpenter bee is one of our few well established common names for a narrowly defined group of bees (with honey bee, bumble bee, leafcutter bee).  Why mess things up.






      John L. Neff
      Central Texas Melittological Institute
      7307 Running Rope
      Austin,TX 78731 US and

      From: Brian Dykstra <brianjdykstra@...>
      To: Jack Neff <jlnatctmi@...>; Anita M. Collins <frozenbeedoc@...>; "beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com" <beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 2:25 AM
      Subject: Re: [beemonitoring] A presentation on Lithurgus crysurus


      More on Lithurgus:

       "O'Toole and Raw (2004) described Lithurgus as megachilid "carpenter" bees.  They do not cut leaf pieces like ohters of the family, rather they make holes in tree branches."(Hannan and Maeta 2007).  The article goes on to say that Lithurgus collaris seals completed nests with wood dust. The quote above refers to the book 'Bees of the World' by O'Toole and Raw (2004).

      Nesting Biology and the Nest Architecture of Lithurgus (Lithurgus) collaris Smith (Hymenoptera: Megachilidae) on Iriomote Island, Southwestern Subtropical Archipelago, Japan

      Md. Abdul Hannan and Yasuo Maeta

      Journal of the Kansas Entomological Society
      Vol. 80, No. 3 (Jul., 2007), pp. 213-222
      Published by: Kansas (Central States) Entomological Society
      Article Stable URL:http://www.jstor.org/stable/25086383


      On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Jack Neff <jlnatctmi@...> wrote:


      Anita:  I think using the term "carpenter bee" as a common name for a Lithurgus is unfortunate as that common name has, for many years, been rather firmly been attached to Xylocopa.  Made up common names often add to identity confusion rather than clarifying things and think this does that just that.






      John L. Neff
      Central Texas Melittological Institute
      7307 Running Rope
      Austin,TX 78731 USA

      From: Anita M. Collins <frozenbeedoc@...>
      To: beemonitoring@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 1:58 PM
      Subject: [beemonitoring] A presentation on Lithurgus crysurus



       Recently we found a nest site for this exotic carpenter bee.  At Sam's urging I am posting a PowerPoint at www.slideshare.net/anitacollins1806.  Take a look at the aggregate nest site, an opened nest, and the background on this bee in PA.

       If you use the photos, please acknowledge Lehigh Gap Nature Center.  This is a unique nature center established by volunteers on a Super Fund Site. 


      Anita Collins


      If we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research.
      Albert Einstein





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    • Brian Dykstra
      Visit this Utah State University extension website to participate in coming up with common names for native bees http://extension.usu.edu/aitc/bees/name.htm
      Message 44 of 44 , Sep 24, 2012
        Visit this Utah State University extension website to participate in coming up with common names for native bees

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