- A couple of days ago, I was invited to join grouply.com. My concern is whether there any
drawbacks to that particular site. If so, that would really be the pits. Also, i followed through
on a message to invite other people to join the group(s) there. If the invitations happen to be
spam, my apologies. For all I know, that's one of the possibly many drawbacks. Some links
seem to exist in order to promote such practice (sending forwards, spam and the like). My
reasons for joining groups such as Beam (as well as Circuit bending) is to share info about
bots and well, circuit bending, as well as to learn about both. Certainly I did not join in order
to abuse these privileges. SO my apologies if what I did has clogged up people's email boxes
with useless messages. Hopefully I will learn from the experience and think twice before
- So was I, by "droidmakr" (I believe his nickname is) - this was the third "social engineering" site on which he'd made contact with me. I sent a message to him the first time asking what he wanted to talk about, and the reply was basically negative. The second invitation, from another site, but the same guy, started me on the edge of getting torqued off. I get an enormous amount of email and I'm handling it OK, but I don't need some random person getting me to join some random site (or hook up on one I'm already using) to make life... uh... different. Then I got the Grouply piece of garbage, hit the "don't send me any more crap" button, it took me to a page to ask me for my email address saying that it would send me an opt-out message (strictly speaking, this is illegal: sites are ONLY permitted to ask you if you really wish(ed) to opt-in) & I never got any such message. Furthermore, when I used the URL to see if I could block this dolt from sending me more garbage, I was given a page whose ONLY option was to join (or just navigate away).
All told, I'm REALLY not impressed with how Grouply handles this junk, and I'm finally over the limit concerning the twit who keeps sending unsolicited invitations. Besides which, he appears to believe that Tilden is essentially The One True G*d as far as BEAM is concerned and has written an article to that effect on the BEAM Wiki that utterly ignores (OK, in advance, but I think you get what I mean) something someone just wrote pointing out that Tilden had departed "from this vale of BEAM" years ago and the only decent contributions occurring since were in this mailing list (I didn't write anything at that point, but I've made the same comment for at least the last four years running.) OK, Tilden got it started with a bang, but if ANYONE tries to convince me that the RS Media is "BEAM" in any way, I'll blast them until their asbestos suit glows.
Your Slightly Crabby Hoggishness
>From: jonjb2a <jonjb2a@...>
>Sent: Oct 24, 2008 2:54 AM
>Subject: [beam] grouply
>A couple of days ago, I was invited to join grouply.com.
- Good day Zoz,
> All told, I'm REALLY not impressed with how Grouply handles thisI received all the same messages you did. I would blame the
> junk, and I'm finally over the limit concerning the twit who keeps
> sending unsolicited invitations.
technology rather than the individual. With Grouply, you can send the
request to everyone on your groups. The problem is that many of us
are on the multiple groups and the tech does not differentiate. So,
say you are on two groups, you get two emails from one person making
Behold the power of Web 2.0. (And when I write "power", I mean the
rough first draft features that regularly accompany new software.)
> he appears to believe that Tilden is essentially The One True G*dGood catch. I might suggest you blame the material rather than the
> as far as BEAM is concerned and has written an article to that
> effect on the BEAM Wiki ...
librarian, but that risks repeating myself. "Droidmakr" is still
pulling in materials from multiple sources. Everyone can play a roll
in vetting and improving the information.
Behold the power of the Wiki. (And when I write "power", I mean to
suggest the power you have to improve upon the article by adding your
> if ANYONE tries to convince me that the RS Media is "BEAM" in anyAye, that sounds fun. If I only had the time.
> way, I'll blast them until their asbestos suit glows.
J Wolfgang Goerlich
- -Thanks for the insights. Live and learn. Ekki ekki ekki ekki patang patang patang zapong
zhiv, as the former Knights who say ni said on "Monty Python and the Holy Grail."
As for me, it's back to the bots (and circuit bending, since I do that too).
- Thanks for the input.
I don't like to spread myself too thin. In other words, there's no point in joining a slew of
groups. I'd be bouncing from site to site, reading messages and maybe replying to them.
Then again, in some groups, all too likely I'd be totally lost. It's like, what is going on here?
I'm a fish out of water. My knowledge of some subjects is limited at best and I'm lucky to
learn new things. Then again, sooner or later, some people could catch on I'm a rank
beginner or amateur.
Another problem here: Grouply gives a crazy incentive to get people to join: You could win a
prize (yeah, like what am I going to do with a Wii)! If there ever was a marketing ploy (hard
sell in my opinion), it is that. I feel like dirt having been suckered. Like I said, it's a learning
- What are your thoughts about a beam specific group on YouTube? What
would be the best name for it?
"BEAM Robotics" sounds good to me.
"Beambots"... mmm nahh too close to something that rhymes with
--- In email@example.com, caleb pearson <boo_ya_samuri_dude@...> wrote:
> Beam Robotics.
> To: beam@...: leon.san.email@...: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:47:59
+0300Subject: [beam] channel on YouTube
> What are your thoughts about a beam specific group on YouTube?
Whatwould be the best name for it?beam roboticsnervous
- Great idea,my vote would go to BEAM robotics too....
> What are your thoughts about a beam specific group on YouTube? What
> would be the best name for it?
> beam robotics
> nervous networks
> Any ideas?
- -Touche. Please note: I'd rule out botsters since Botster (TM) is a trademark name for an
interactive toy, along the lines of PooChi, manufactured by Tiger.
- Sorry guys, I misunderstood the concept of a 'channel'. Its apparently a
fancy profile just for one person.
I thought it was kind of a public place anyone could upload to (like a
group). With similar settings like 'Subscribe to', so we could check out
all the latest Beam uploads.
- Ok, so there is a groups feature on YouTube. I made this...
Its totally open to post to, comment etc...
I'll keep an eye out for spam.
- Very nice! Will be neat to see what this will have in a few months!
I gotta find something to take video that is PC compatible now, so I
can add my few bots.
Side note...I wish there was an RSS feed for the group.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Leo <leon.san.email@...> wrote:
> Ok, so there is a groups feature on YouTube. I made this...
> Its totally open to post to, comment etc...
> I'll keep an eye out for spam.
- m3lt79 wrote:
> Side note...I wish there was an RSS feed for the group.Good idea! Here you go:
J Wolfgang Goerlich
i want to ask you, please can you remove my email/account from your group?
i didn't find my login password to do this myself...
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> Datum: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:54:39 -0000--
> Von: "jonjb2a" <jonjb2a@...>
> An: email@example.com
> Betreff: [beam] grouply
> A couple of days ago, I was invited to join grouply.com. My concern is
> whether there any
> drawbacks to that particular site. If so, that would really be the pits.
> Also, i followed through
> on a message to invite other people to join the group(s) there. If the
> invitations happen to be
> spam, my apologies. For all I know, that's one of the possibly many
> drawbacks. Some links
> seem to exist in order to promote such practice (sending forwards, spam
> and the like). My
> reasons for joining groups such as Beam (as well as Circuit bending) is to
> share info about
> bots and well, circuit bending, as well as to learn about both. Certainly
> I did not join in order
> to abuse these privileges. SO my apologies if what I did has clogged up
> people's email boxes
> with useless messages. Hopefully I will learn from the experience and
> think twice before
> repeating it.
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- I don't have a group per se. If there is a way to "leave" grouply, I will do so. I am quite
content to post messages to the yahoo BEAM group (as well as to the circuit bending group,
or rather, benders anonymous), of which I am a member.
Sorry for all the hassle.