RE: [bbshop] Vests
- An idea that's worked well a few times for me while directing is --
marching band pants! The waist band is all the way up below the rib cage. As
a director it's particularly helpful because it hides the "gap" when you
raise your arms. You can wear them with a vest, or sew a fake cummerbund
around the top. Remember, it's a costume, not street clothes.
lead - "The Rapscallions", 1984 International Champs
master director - "Heart of Ohio" SAI chorus
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of
Joe De Felice
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 11:36 AM
To: Frank Leitnaker; jadewalker@...; 'Harmonet'
Subject: Re: [bbshop] Vests
And while you are at it wear a belt AND suspenders....
I said Amen to Jade privately.... but let me say it again here.
The vest must cover all the shirt.... dont short change the
entertainer (note to all chorus costume/uniform chairs)... check out the
As to your statement... if you wear a vest you never wear a
cummerbund (unless you wear the vest open or as a bolero).
Besides.... it is impossible "not to look"... that's the point it is
definitely a distraction IMNSHO.
And while we are at it what's the sense of wearing a Tuxedo if you
dont have it altered for proper fit (and re-do that when you put on
more than a few pounds and can no longer make the buttons reach the
button holes). Wearing it open is OK for performance, but not if you
do so because the coat doesn't fit you).
And please.... when you are issued or otherwise acquire a coat, be
it casual, blazer or formal.... get the sleeves put at the right
length so you dont look like a monkey with sleeves down to your
knuckles, or so short that you show a couple of inches of shirt
sleeve. Half and inch of shirt sleeve will do just fine... or none,
if you are comfy with that on stage. You probably spent some good
bucks for the outfit.... make it look good and not careless.
And while I am spouting all this, if you go for an image, I would
recommend you sing both contest songs to fit that image, not just one
or worse... none.
Think about how many you may have seen where there is no relation
to the songs, or there is, but only to one of the set. Concert is
one type performance, but image is something different where the
outfit becomes part of the performance.
Class dismissed (for now) ;-)
Show Glow Joe (since 1983)
At 4/1/2006 01:13 AM, Frank Leitnaker wrote:
>A cummerbund works nicely for this problem but, "triangle of shame"?Well!
>Just don't look! 8^)is
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jade Walker" <jadewalker@...>
>To: "'Harmonet'" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 1:45 AM
>Subject: RE: [bbshop] Vests
> > I'm not sure about the buttoned/unbuttoned issue, but what I don't like
> > when the bottomof
> > of the vest doesn't quite make it to the top of the pants, usually where
> > the
> > buttons
> > are, and the shirt peeks through there. My term for it is the "triangle
> > shame".Yahoo! Groups Links
> > Jade
> > jadewalker@...
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Skip Hardwick
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 2:47 PM
> >> To: Harmonet
> >> Subject: [bbshop] Vests
> >> Just a quick question for all you keepers of worthless but
> >> interesting information.
> >> Our assistant director insists that when wearing our vests,
> >> the bottom button should not be buttoned. Does this have any
> >> relevance in history, or is it just that he can't button that one?
> >> Skip Hardwick
> >> Pueblo Sunsational Chorus
> >> Changing Times Quartet
> >> Skip_sings_bass
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>Yahoo! Groups Links
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> what I don't like is when the bottomHahaha...that's perfect...
> of the vest doesn't quite make it to
> the top of the pants, usually where
> the buttons are, and the shirt peeks
> through there. My term for it is the
> "triangle of shame".
I recently had to do some digital manipulation to kill the triangles
from a live shot the quartet wanted to use for their CD. Not for the
In defense of the quartets, though - sometimes the physical movements
on stage can raise the layers up a bit - so they should be forgiven
when it happens during a song.... =)