Re: [bbshop] Re: Rose chord
- Finally, ...the Harmonet is interesting again!
Thank you Joe and Larry.
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.
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On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:18 PM, Joe Liles <joelilesmusic@...> wrote:
> The old-timers called this three-chord progression the "Rose Chord" because
> it was the opening sequence of "Broadway Rose." It is also used in the
> last line of "Sweet Roses of Morn" . . . "you're the i-deal (of my dreams)"
> It's one of my favorite progressions, so I opened "One More Song" with it.
> On the first chord, the bass needs to be high and light. He's on the third
> of the Bb chord and that D sends off harmonics that are soon dissonant with
> the root and fifth. The lead is on the fifth and as he moves to the F#
> (Gb) in the second chord, he needs to sing a full half-step and bring out
> the root of the second chord.
> In the second chord (a Gb 7th, or F# 7th), the tenor sings the 7th of the
> chord (tuning low, like he should) and that seventh becomes the third in
> the next chord (C7th) and that third must be raised to tune properly to the
> harmonics. This makes two different versions of the "same" note.
> The bari is just the opposite, being a third in the second chord and a 7th
> in the last chord. The old-time barbershoppers called this chord
> relationship an "across-the-clock" move. I'll not bother you with the
> reason. You need to attend my tune-it-or-die class at Harmony U. You
> seldom hear it sung correctly anymore. It takes a careful ear, but it is
> so much fun to sing it right!!!
> So . . . Yes . . . the Rose Chord is a three-chord combo.
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Larry Triplett <larrycfc@...>wrote:
>> I've always heard the reference as referring to the first chord in the
>> progression, though it always implies the entire sequence of three
>> chords. But it's that 1st inversion starting chord that is unusual, and
>> warrants coming up with a name in the first place. Sure, it's logical
>> that rose chord would mean the chord sung on "rose" but that's just too
>> obvious, ;-) Jargon seldom develops on logical lines.
>> On 11/27/2012 3:44 AM, Jay wrote:
>>> As for the "Rose Chord"....this is the progression.
>>> The Rose Chord, I assume, is the C7 ... Top down
>>> ...with is the opening of the refrain from the song, "Goodbye, Rose".
>> Larry Triplett, CFC
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