- Many of the various responses keep saying that the quartet paid for them. OK, so.... where did the quartet treasury get the money to pay for them? Out ofMessage 1 of 31 , Jan 2, 2012View SourceMany of the various responses keep saying that "the quartet" paid for them.
OK, so.... where did the "quartet" treasury get the money to pay for them?
Out of the proceeds that the quartet earned by doing gigs or that
members put into the kitty
out of their own pockets just to build up the bank account to cover
So the money AND the goods paid for out of the 4-way "quartet"
partnership (25% equal split)
are part of that partnership (whether specifically "legalized" as an
LLC or not).
So yes, the quartet singers all have a 25% stake or claim
in the quartets' assets and that case could easily be made in a small
that who ever replaces the quartet member who left could be compelled
to "buy into" that 25% stake
of the assets (esp. costumes and things like airline tickets if such
for any of the upcoming gigs). OR the remaining 3 could also figure out a way
to compensate the departing member with some sort of payment plan, as well.
The FUTURE gigs and the revenue to be had for them is not yet quartet
assets until it's "in the bank", so the departing member has effectively
relinquished any monetary stake in them. And yes, I certainly comprehend
the fact that that member left the other 3 holding those obligations.
the 3 remaining members have a couple of options at their disposal:
a) to scramble
to find a replacement who can train up fast enough to do those gigs
who can then pay back the "quartet"
treasury if those monies were used to buy out the departing member,
b) relinquish the gigs
and/or, as a courtesy to the people/entity who hired them, find a
suitable replacement quartet
(which is the "gentlemens' agreement" thing that is often done
amongst quartets), c)
split up and be done and walk away from it all.
BTW, 7 gigs in 9 days? Do you people have regular lives? ;-)
Or as I've heard my husband say in a joking manner after realizing
it's been "one of those weeks"
where we are out barbershopping 7, 8, 9, 10 nights in a row, "Don't
you people have homes?"
- Helen Giallombardo
- Dave, I don t have a set of rules in front of me, but I am sure that to cross the stage as a performer, you must be a member or Associate member (Director)...Message 31 of 31 , Jan 5, 2012View SourceDave, I don't have a set of rules in front of me, but I am sure that to cross the stage as a performer, you must be a member or Associate member (Director)...
AND, keep in mind as a Board Member now, you have fiduciary responsibilities. If we have non-dues-paying members with no tickets purchased, how do you account for their incurred expenses, and their lack of contribution toward profits?
It would be great if the entire Barbershop experience were free and had no restrictions, but that lotter ticket has yet been won.
All the reasons for "eval only" are right on the money, but we must use our judges to evaluate members, otherwise, we are not being fair to our members.
Anything I win above $200 million will go toward making Barbershop a much less expensive thing...
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Dave Jacobs <g8r10r@...> wrote:
> Exactly, Neil. A chorus with non-members on stage would be disqualified
> from "the contest". But, it shouldn't preclude them from singing on-stage
> for evaluation only, which, by definition, is not scored as part of the
> contest. (C&J community, feel free to chime in if I'm wrong here.)
> Each singer would probably need to purchase a convention registration, but
> that could probably be waived since they are not "competing". (I can't
> remember of the top of my head if the convention registration requirement
> is a C&J requirement, or a Society rule to exempt the contest from ASCAP
> Hey, imagine having a Youth Harmony Festival just before your next district
> convention, then inviting the Boys Chorus to mic test for the chorus
> contest. Heck have the girls chorus sing, too. What would you risk -
> extra single event ticket sales to family members? ...just brainstorming,
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Neil Keihm <keihm@...> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > If you are not a member, you are not eligible to enter the contest.
> > Neil
> Dave Jacobs
> Musical Director - Barbergator Chorus
> Sunshine District - VP of Chorus Director Development
> Advancement Coordinator - BSA Troop 454
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