108026RE: [bbshop] It has been quite awhile and I need you help once again
- Oct 13, 2013Hi Jack!
I will be filling this survey out within two days and sending back to you.
But I felt the need to comment on the TWO comments received thus far
criticizing the lack of follow-up or follow-through on this survey, when
the survey has not yet even been completed. Respectfully, rather than simply
speaking about what HASN'T happened in the past and getting philosophical
about it, why not actually complete the survey and return it, with an
emphatic comment voicing your sincere hope that said follow-through occurs
and that you enthusiastically anticipate hearing back about what positive
motion has been made after this survey has been completed. Even go so far as
to say, in the past you have noted that such efforts seem to have lacked
that follow-through and it was disappointing at the least and disheartening
and frustrating at the worst.
But at the very least, please do fill out the survey, so that someone
actually HAS a chance of taking action on the information gathered.
Just my opinion - respectfully submitted. I know I am an altruist. But I am
personally seeing lots of new, young, interested barbershoppers in my part
of the country getting involved and being extremely enthusiastic about this
passion of ours. I see it becoming THEIR PASSION. Why not add to that by
rediscovering your own passion for this wonderful thing we call Barbershop
by sharing a little of it with Montana Jack and the rest of us.
Thanks to all!!
Member, BQPA (Pioneers)
Tenor, Harmony Heritage chapter of Harmony, Inc.
(daughter of Tom & June Noble, both long-time Barbershoppers)
From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of
Montana Jack Fitzpatrick
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 1:53 PM
Subject: [bbshop] It has been quite awhile and I need you help once again
Approximately four years ago, I conducted a couple of informal and entirely
unauthorized Harmonet surveys about membership and attendance at chapter
meetings. Your response to these surveys was not only outstanding, but the
data gathered has been used often in discussions about these matters.
Additionally, some of our data was used in preparing task force reports for
the International Board of Directors.
However, time and events have occurred since those surveys causing us to ask
if they are still valid. Membership has declined by over 3000 members in
these past four years. Additionally, I can assure you that there has been
a more intense focus on the subject of membership and attendance.
Additionally, we are about to prepare an article for publication probing the
boundaries of the membership and attendance problems. Therefore, it seems
appropriate to update our survey and I need the collective assistance of
I know that our participation rate has dropped remarkably. Last month we
had only 70 postings. In bygone years, I can remember getting that many in
just a couple of days when we had some of our most fiery and notable
exchanges about hot button issues.
So, I am asking you to come out of lurk mode, just for a week or so and give
me some of the famous Harmonet assistance.
The entire and original survey is attached below. To respond, just put
some numbers beside the appropriate reasons and send your questionnaire back
Last time we had over 500 responses. Please try your best to equal or
exceed that number this time.
Thanks for your help and for responding.
Blessings to everyone,
Montana Jack, keeping the faith, keeping it barbershop and keeping the "Q"
I' m a 23K Project Caller. Ask me how you can become one too.
23K Project, Task Force Chairman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>We are about to launch into the next leg of our journey to clearly
identifying some more of the causes for our membership problems. If we can
put our finger exactly on the problems, perhaps we can find our collective
way to some effective solutions.
We need to find out the REAL reasons people leave the society. As in every
part of our lives, there is the story for "public consumption" and the REAL
story. A guy may leave the society telling everyone that he has family
issues. But there may be just one guy he tells the REAL story. Perhaps he
doesn't like standing on the risers for a long time or has seen a long
remembered atmosphere of fellowship eroding.
Most folks tell someone-----and perhaps that someone is you (sounds like a
great song title).
Thanks to those who have added a few more reasons to our list. Special
thanks to Charlie Davenport, who has quite a bit more up close and personal
reasons that people have given to him. Also, thanks to Keith Eckhardt for
sharing all of the interesting responses he received about folks who were
late in renewing their membership.
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS SURVEY all you have to do is hit the reply button and
return your input to me. Simply list a number after ANY (or as many as you
like) of the items on the list below OF WHICH YOU HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE.
No second hand information please. Only list the numbers of folks with whom
you have had a personal contact.
We will let this run a week or so and then I will compile the numbers and
post them back on the Harmonet for those who are interested.
So here is the definitve list of the REAL reasons folks leave the BHS
(please don't add any more---you already had your chance to do that):
* Family pressure to quit
* Needed at home
* Job pressures and requirements.
* Dislike the director
* Don't like the competitive environment
* Personal health problems
* Family health problems
* Can't keep up with learning the music or choreography
* Can't keep up with the high singing level required
* Can't stand the bad singing
* No time to just stand around and sing
* No time for fellowship
* Quartet obligations
* Long commute
* Too old, too tired, all done with singing
* Have to move
* Don't like the music
* Don't like standing on the risers all night long
* Chapter Politics or chapter run by a clique
* Lack of chapter organization
* Same old, same old every week
* Rehearsal night changed
* "Lack of support from Headquarters (Nashville or District)"
* Did not feel included
* Initial warm welcome became indifference
* Didn't know what was expected of me
* NO ONE ASKED ME TO RENEW
* I missed a bunch of rehearsals and no one called me
* Bruised Ego
* Lack of opportunities to become involved (or no one asked)
The final results of this survey will be sent to those in the society that
need this information and will be published to the Harmonet for everyone to
Please remember this is a completely unauthorized, unscientific survey which
is seeking the collective wisdom of the Harmonet.
Thanks for your help,
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