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1920-1929 team GS <> team CG + team GF

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  • Clem Comly
    I looked for teams from 1920s with their GF off by several as probable BBDB problems. There were 81 but only 11 were off more than 2. Below are the worst 8
    Message 1 of 3 , Jun 12, 2013
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      I looked for teams from 1920s with their GF off by several
      as probable BBDB problems.  There were 81 but only 11
      were off more than 2.  Below are the worst 8 teams. The data like “per Retrosheet s/b 12 GF” was bought from Pete Palmer in the fall 2012.
      The ones that refer to retrosheet discrepancy have not yet been accepted and incorporated by Pete Palmer.
       
      1927 Chi. AL     Pitching’s Barnabe has 11 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 12 GF.
                               Pitching’s Cole has 13 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 18 GF.
      1924 Phi. NL    Pitching’s Couch has  13 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 16 GF (but official had 13).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 3 games Couch finished but no Phila. P given GF.
                              Pitching’s Hamilton has  0 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 1 GF (but official had 0).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Hamilton finished but no Phila. P given GF
                              Pitching’s Oeschger has  4 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 5 GF (but official had 4).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Oeschger finished but no Phila. P given GF
                              Pitching’s Weinert has  4 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 5 GF (but official had 4).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Weinert finished but no Phila. P given GF
                              Pitching’s Carlson has  23 GS but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 24 GS (but official reported 23).
                              Pitching’s Mitchell has  25 GS but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 26 GS (but official reported 25).
      1927 Chi. NL    Pitching’s Jones has 14 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 13 GF.
                              Pitching’s Stueland has 21 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 13 GF.
                              Pitching’s Stueland has 12 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 11 GS.
       
                              Pitching’s Keen has 3 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 2 GS.
                              Pitching’s Cheevesn has 23 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 22 GS.
      1927 Chi. AL    Pitching’s Wieneke has 6 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 3 GF.
                              Pitching’s Wilkinson has 13 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 12 GF.
      1922 NY  NL   
      Pitching’s Jonnard has  19 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 20 GF (but official had 19).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Jonnard finished but no NY P given GF.
                              Pitching’s Toney has  0 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 1 GF (but official had 0).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Toney finished but no NY P given GF.
                              Pitching’s Barnes has  14 CG but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 15 CG (but official had 14).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Barnes completed but no NY P given CG or GF.
                              Pitching’s McQuillan has  5 CG but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 6 CG (but official had 5).
      1923 Pitt.        
      Pitching’s Steineder has  6 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 8 GF (but official had 6).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 2 games Steineder finished but no PIT P given GF.
                              Pitching’s Meadows has  2 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 3 GF (but official had 2).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Meadows finished but no PIT P given GF.
                              Pitching’s Adams has  2 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 3 GF (but official had 2).
                              Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Adams finished but no PIT P given GF.
       
      Clem Comly
       
    • Clem Comly
      Three corrections: First I sent the worst 6 not worst 8. This one that I marked 1927 Chi. NL is really: 1922 Chi. NL Pitching’s Jones has 14 GF but per
      Message 2 of 3 , Jun 12, 2013
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        Three corrections: First I sent the worst 6 not worst 8.
        This one that I marked 1927 Chi. NL is really:
         
        1922 Chi. NL    Pitching’s Jones has 14 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 13 GF.
                                Pitching’s Stueland has 21 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 13 GF.
                                Pitching’s Stueland has 12 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 11 GS.
         
                                Pitching’s Keen has 3 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 2 GS.
                                Pitching’s Cheevesn has 23 GS but per Retrosheet s/b 22 GS.
         
        and this one that I marked 1927 Chi. AL is really:
        1921 Chi. AL    Pitching’s Wieneke has 6 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 3 GF.
                                Pitching’s Wilkinson has 13 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 12 GF.
         
        My apologies.
         
        Clem Comly
      • Clem Comly
        Here are the other 5 teams from this decade that are off by more than 2 1922 DET Pitching’s Ehmke has 13 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 11 GF. Pitching’s
        Message 3 of 3 , Jun 12, 2013
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          Here are the other 5 teams from this decade that are off by more than 2
           
          1922 DET       Pitching’s Ehmke has 13 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 11 GF.
                                Pitching’s Oldham has 9 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 8 GF.
          1927 Chi. NL 
          Pitching’s Blake has  2 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 3 (but official had 5).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Blake finished but no Cub P given GF.
                                
          Pitching’s Jones has  11 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 12 (but official had 11).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Jones finished but no Cub P given GF.
                                 Pitching’s Osborn has  10 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 11 (but official had 10).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Osborn finished but no Cub P given GF.
           
          1921 NY  NL  
          Pitching’s Barnes has  6 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 8 (but official had 6).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 2 games Barnes finished but no Giant P given GF.
                                
          Pitching’s Ryan has  5 CG but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 6 (but official had 5).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Ryan completed but not given CG and no Giant P given GF.
          1920 StL  NL  
          Pitching’s Haines has  8 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 9 GF (but official had 8).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 1 game Haines finished but no St. L. P given GF.
                                
          Pitching’s Sherdel had a league-leading  28 GF but per Retrosheet discrepancy file has 30 GF (but official had 28).
                                 Retrosheet discrepancy file IDs 2 games Sherdel finished but no St. L. P given GF.
          1920 Phi. AL    Pitching’s Martin has 0 GF but per Retrosheet s/b 1 GF.
           
           
          Clem Comly
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