- There are two potential mistakes which have recently come to my attention.

1) In the postseason stats for the 1979 world series, the pitching stats for

both Tippy and Denny Martinez. the PostPitching table shows Tippy with 2 G,

1 GS, and 1.0 IP. TB7 says those numbers should be 3/0/1.1 Similarly, we

show Dennis Martinez with 3/0/1.1, and TB7 has 2/1/2.0 The other 1979 WS

pitching stats appear to be correct, so this appears to be a simple error.

2) A reader wrote in with this question, and I don't know the answer. "In

Teams.csv, 2003 Kansas City earned runs allowed are given as 809. The

Sporting News Baseball Guide for 2004 gives KC's total as 808, with

individual pitchers adding to 809. However, the TSN 2004 Official Major

League Baseball Fact Book gives KC's team total as 809. The difference

seems to arise from the individual earned runs credited to Brad Voyles - the

Guide gives his total as 25, but the Fact Book gives it as 26 (your database

has 26). On-line, ESPN.com gives Voyles' 2003 earned runs as 26, but

MLB.com gives it as 25. So, which is correct?" The online sources are

unoffficial, but it's unusual that the two TSN books have different totals.

Since Craig Carter left the Sporting News, I'm not sure who to ask in St.

Louis about the discrepancy.

Regards,

Sean Lahman - At 02:34 PM 8/25/2004, Sean Lahman wrote:
>There are two potential mistakes which have recently come to my attention.

I have Voyles with 25 in my 2003 PBP database. He gave up unearned runs

>

>2) A reader wrote in with this question, and I don't know the answer. "In

>Teams.csv, 2003 Kansas City earned runs allowed are given as 809. The

>Sporting News Baseball Guide for 2004 gives KC's total as 808, with

>individual pitchers adding to 809. However, the TSN 2004 Official Major

>League Baseball Fact Book gives KC's team total as 809. The difference

>seems to arise from the individual earned runs credited to Brad Voyles - the

>Guide gives his total as 25, but the Fact Book gives it as 26 (your database

>has 26). On-line, ESPN.com gives Voyles' 2003 earned runs as 26, but

>MLB.com gives it as 25. So, which is correct?" The online sources are

>unoffficial, but it's unusual that the two TSN books have different totals.

>Since Craig Carter left the Sporting News, I'm not sure who to ask in St.

>Louis about the discrepancy.

only twice, on September 23 and September 27.

On September 23, Voyles allowed an unearned run on a play with two outs

that was scored as an error on OF Raul Ibanez. The ball in question was hit

by Andres Torres, and was a sailing line drive that Ibanez misjudged and

that ticked off his glove. I have Torres with 4 doubles in 2003 (not

counting this play), and so do both ESPN and MLB.com, so it doesn't appear

that was the problem.

On September 27, Voyles gave up three unearned runs in the seventh inning

of a game against the White Sox. The PBP for the inning is:

M. Ordonez safe on throwing error by SS.

C. Everett singles to right, M. Ordonez to second.

B. Daubach strikes out (called).

J. Valentin doubles to right, M. Ordonez scores, C. Everett to third.

J. Crede strikes out (swinging), catcher to first. C. Everett scores, J.

Valentin to third on wild pitch.

J. Valentin scores on a wild pitch.

M. Olivo walks.

W. Harris grounds out, pitcher to first.

This clearly couldn't have been changed, because then all three runs would

have been earned.

Were the total runs allowed at 29 in both sources?

Mike Emeigh

piratefan1@... - Yes, looks like I switched the ID's between Tippy and Dennis Martinez

on the 1979 World Series data. Correctected PostPitching Table will

be posted momentarily.

THANKS,

Kevin

--- In baseball-databank@yahoogroups.com, "Sean Lahman"

<slahman@b...> wrote:> There are two potential mistakes which have recently come to my

attention.

>

stats for

> 1) In the postseason stats for the 1979 world series, the pitching

> both Tippy and Denny Martinez. the PostPitching table shows Tippy

with 2 G,

> 1 GS, and 1.0 IP. TB7 says those numbers should be 3/0/1.1

Similarly, we

> show Dennis Martinez with 3/0/1.1, and TB7 has 2/1/2.0 The other

1979 WS

> pitching stats appear to be correct, so this appears to be a simple

error.

... - KJOK wrote:
> Yes, looks like I switched the ID's between Tippy and Dennis Martinez

I incorporated this change into the DB. Also, Dennis's IPouts should be

> on the 1979 World Series data. Correctected PostPitching Table will

> be posted momentarily.

>

> THANKS,

> Kevin

six and not three.

I also fixed an error in Randy St. Claire's 1991 WS record.

It looks like St. Claire and Stanton were transposed.

--

Sincerely,

Sean Forman

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