3175Re: [baseball-databank] Re: Games played
- Sep 1, 2006Tom:
Don't know if I have a "solution" but:
1. Batting.G = Pitching.G 28,885 cases.
Should be no issue with these.
2. Batting.G < Pitching.G 2,521 cases (All but 6 of
these are 1997-2004. 2005 has none of these cases)
I believe these are mostly all American League
pitchers. If the pitcher batted (such as in an
interleague game, or where team lost the DH) or he
Pinch Ran/Pinch Hit/played another position, then he
got a batting game from 1997-2004. On games where he
didn't bat, he did not get a batting game, but a
pitching game only. Ideally either 1973-1996 & 2005
should be consistent with that, or else 1997-2004
should all be "re-done" to be consistent with
1973-1996 & 2005.
The 6 other cases are possibly data errors, and would
need to be looked at individually.
Batting.G > Pitching.G 5492 cases.
These should mostly be where either, as you described,
position players pitched, OR where pitchers pinch hit
or pinch ran or played another position within a
--- Tom Timmerman <timmermant@...> wrote:
> Hello all,__________________________________________________
> Looking through the archives, I see that John asked
> the question I
> was about to ask, but I don't see where it was ever
> Basically the question is: How do you determine
> games played for
> those appearing in both the batting and pitching
> I merged the batting and pitching tables (from the
> Lahman Access
> version) and found this:
> Batting.G = Pitching.G 28,885 cases
> Batting.G < Pitching.G 2,521 cases
> (All but 6 of these are 1997-2004. 2005 has none
> of these cases)
> Batting.G > Pitching.G 5492 cases
> (These are spread evenly across all years and
> appear to reflect
> normal examples of position players doing some
> pitching. For these I
> assume that Batting.G is the correct number of games
> Anybody got solution?
> --- In email@example.com,
> <rickert@...> wrote:
> > Is there any plan to put players games played in
> the baseball
> > Before 1998, everyone's games played was included
> in the Batting
> > but since then, the pitchers' totals are no longer
> listed in
> either section.
> > e.g. last year, Johann Santana appeared in 34
> > In the batting section Santana is listed as
> batting in 2 games
> > interleague games)
> > in the pitching section, he is listed as pitching
> in 34 games.
> > Randy Johnson appeared in 35 games.
> > Johnson is listed as batting in 33 games,
> pitching in 35.
> > Brooks Kieschnick appeared in 77 games.
> > Kieschnick is listed as batting in 75 games,
> pitching in 32.
> > How do we determine the actual number of games
> played for
> > And these are all obvious players. Most years,
> there is some
> pitcher who makes some
> > pinch running/pinch fielding appearance. How do we
> find these for
> the years since inter-
> > league play started?
> > A less obvious player is Jason Simontacchi, who
> played in 15 games.
> > Simontacchi is listed as batting in 14 games,
> pitching in 13.
> > john rickert
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