Re: ERBzine: ERB: Science & Religion ~ Reason & Superstition ~ Religions of Bars
- I'm guessing this is the 'Halloween' edition of ERBzine?
Apart from the ERB: Science & Religion article, The SELECTIVE
collection of quotes from other authors, etc. taken as a whole is a
thinly veiled anti-religious tirade, most of the venom being directed
at Christians, specifically Catholics. In contrast to the attitude
espoused by ERB, it smacks of intolerance. Apparently someone has a
chip on their shoulder. Well OK, a person's feelings are a person's
feelings. Fair enough. However...
When someone expresses their thoughts and feelings using their own
words (and occasionally citing others to illustrate their argument) I
respect and support their right to do so. But the one who shouts
spite while hiding behind the 'authority' of famous writers and other
notables is no less ignoble than the one who does the same while
hiding behind the 'authority' of a robe or a pulpit.
But I stll love ya!
On a marginally related topic, a joke comes to mind:
A minister is about to give an illustration for his sermon. He asks
a young child to come forward.
MINISTER: "What's small and furry, has a big bushy tail, and likes
to eat nuts?"
CHILD: "I know the right answer is 'Jesus', but it SURE sounds
like a squirrel!"
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FEATURE 1: ERBzine 1434
Burroughs' Thoughts on Science and Religion
FEATURE 2: ERBzine 1434a
Quotes on Reason and Superstition
From a Selection of Free-Thinking Authors
Featured in the
Personal Library of Edgar Rice Burroughs
FEATURE 3: ERBzine 1434b
From our Motes & Quotes Series
More Quotes on Reason vs Superstition and the Supernatural
From Free-Thinking Authors, Past and Present
FEATURE 4: ERBzine 1741
Den Valdron's Fantasy Worlds of ERB Series Presents
RELIGIONS OF BARSOOM II
Read Part I in ERBzine 1416
by Den Valdron
FEATURE 5: ERBzine 1692e
Themes and Variations: The Tarzan Novels Of Edgar Rice Burroughs
#18: Tarzan and the Lion Man by R. E. Prindle
Part 6: The Centre of the Circle
Part Six of the longest and most in-depth analysis and review of any ERB novel.
"I consider this novel to be the magnum opus of the Tarzan series."
FEATURE 6: ERBzine 1724
Jahlanna of Pellucidar
A 175,000-word serialized novel by
Sean Edward Phillips
This Week: Parts 10 - 12
FEATURE 7: ERBzine 1714
An Artist Journal
Tarzan of the Apes Part I
by David Burton
FEATURE 8: Archive ERBzine 1120
Religious Themes in the Novels of
Edgar Rice Burroughs
Robert B. Zeuschner, Ph.D.
FEATURE 9 Update: ERBzine 1494
Den Valdron's Exploring ERB Series
Following in the Footprints of Matching Mars
FEATURE 10 Archive: ERBzine 1450
What's Going On?
Edgar Rice Burroughs Among The Dystopians
by R.E. Prindle
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Ron De Laat's Newspaper Archive: The Return of Tarzan
Tarzan and the Lion Man: Review Pt. 7: by R.E. Prindle
Another article by Den Valdron
David Burton Artist Journal: Tarzan of the Apes
Jahlanna of Pellucidar A 175,000-word novel by Sean Edwards Phillips - Parts 13-15
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> ==========================At the end of this are the words:
> FEATURE 10 Archive: ERBzine 1450
> What's Going On?
> Edgar Rice Burroughs Among The Dystopians
> by R.E. Prindle
The views expressed by Mr. Prindle in his series of articles
are not necessarily those held by Edgar Rice Burroughs, Inc.
I would imagine not.
Gotta watch out for them Semites.
- I'm quite a bit behind in my reading. But I took some
time out to look over ERB Among the Dystopians. My
thanks to Saroda Mara for drawing my attention to it.
There's an interpretation of history here which seems
both novel and unorthodox in contemporary terms, and
which strikes me as hard to support in any coherent
I will not attribute these views to Mr. Prindle per
se, but will acknowledge that there is a certain
history to them.
Unfortunately, I think that history has been generally
incorrect. The notion of semitic tribes or a semitic
race restlessly infiltrating and destroying one
civilization after another, including the Sumerians,
Romans and most recently the Germans seems at best
farfetched. The phrase 'Semito-communist' seems a bit
over the top. The notion that we're involved in some
Semitic World War and that Israel and the Arabs are
both fundamentally the same with slightly different
approaches to world domination seems profoundly
Politics and economics, demographic shifts, natural
processes do more to explain the rise and fall of
cultures and civilizations. I think that there's no
real substance to a conspiracy theory notion of
western civilization. And I must say, I'm awfully
damned tired with this whole 'clash of civilizations'
meme that pollutes public discussion on the so called
'war on terror.'
It also strikes me as somewhat tasteless to quibble
over six million dead in the Holocaust. Again, its
not a debate that I'm prepared to countenance or
engage. I'll instead refer to the meta-reality that
tends to surround such notions. Every now and then
I'll read some impassioned treatise comparing Hitler
to Stalin. Both are obviously monsters, but somehow,
the subliminal message is that compared to Stalin...
Hitler wasn't such a bad guy. The invitation is to
rehabilitate Hitler through a game of moral
relativism. So it goes with those who claim that
America really won the Vietnam war but was betrayed at
home by hippies, and those who argue that the American
Civil War wasn't about slavery... and so on, and so
forth. Generally, the argument that it wasn't really
six million is another bit of rehabilitation through
moral relativism. As if perhaps five and a half
million isn't so bad. One million would have been too
many. A hundred thousand would have been too many. A
thousand would have been too many. One was too much.
There are some games that we should never play, some
lines of discussion that go nowhere good.
I will not accuse Mr. Prindle of attempting to
rehabilitate Hitler, nor will I suggest that he is a
racist of any stripe. However, I will observe that he
has articulated views and arguments which have been
thoroughly exploded and have often been the province
of outright racists, paranoids and dangerously
I've said my piece, now I'm going to go back to
charting out hidden histories in imaginary worlds.
Mr. Prindle has had some very interesting reflections
on Burroughs work in the context of Burroughs life.
This old world has enough grief going on without
imaginary histories being added to it.
--- Saroda Mara <xenophile2002@...> wrote:
> > ==========================__________________________________________________
> > FEATURE 10 Archive: ERBzine 1450
> > ==========================
> > What's Going On?
> > Edgar Rice Burroughs Among The Dystopians
> > by R.E. Prindle
> > http://www.erbzine.com/mag14/1450.html
> At the end of this are the words:
> The views expressed by Mr. Prindle in his series of
> are not necessarily those held by Edgar Rice
> Burroughs, Inc.
> I would imagine not.
> Gotta watch out for them Semites.
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- It's because of the incendiary little intellectual fart-bombs that
Mr. Prindle likes to scatter through his articles that I stopped
reading them. What's more, in an on-line debate that ERBzine featured
once it was clear that Mr. Prindle would not take ownership of these
little nuggets. "Smartypants dodgeball" just isn't my thing.