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  • pinky_goyal22
    Hi All! does any one have idea about multi threading in php ??? i have googled for the topic but didn t get much except php doesn t support multithreading. if
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 3, 2008
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      Hi All!

      does any one have idea about multi threading in php ???
      i have googled for the topic but didn't get much except php doesn't
      support multithreading.

      if any one have idea about it or have some good link please provide me
      that.

      thanks in advance.

      pinky
    • Amit Rana
      Hi, Yes, there is no multi threading support in php but if you want to start a parallel process you can curl (or start another http request). Also depends what
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 3, 2008
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        Hi,
        Yes, there is no multi threading support in php but if you want to
        start a parallel process you can curl (or start another http
        request). Also depends what you want to do, getting content via ajax
        is also a 'kind of' multi threading.

        On the server side if you are doing curl, dis advantage is that you
        there is no way to inform the main thread about success/failure of
        the child thread (if you dont want to wait).

        HTH

        --- In bang-phpug@yahoogroups.com, "pinky_goyal22" <pinks.forums@...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Hi All!
        >
        > does any one have idea about multi threading in php ???
        > i have googled for the topic but didn't get much except php doesn't
        > support multithreading.
        >
        > if any one have idea about it or have some good link please provide
        me
        > that.
        >
        > thanks in advance.
        >
        > pinky
        >
      • vaijanath rao
        Hi Amit, PHP might not support multi-thread but you can use fork to create as many as childs as you want and than wait for the signal from the child. --Thanks
        Message 3 of 9 , Jan 4, 2008
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          Hi Amit,

          PHP might not support multi-thread but you can use fork to create as many as childs as you want and than wait for the signal from the child.

          --Thanks and Regards
          Vaijanath

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          From: Amit Rana <amitrana77@...>
          To: bang-phpug@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, 4 January, 2008 11:11:53 AM
          Subject: [bang-phpug] Re: Multithreading in php













          Hi,

          Yes, there is no multi threading support in php but if you want to

          start a parallel process you can curl (or start another http

          request). Also depends what you want to do, getting content via ajax

          is also a 'kind of' multi threading.



          On the server side if you are doing curl, dis advantage is that you

          there is no way to inform the main thread about success/failure of

          the child thread (if you dont want to wait).



          HTH



          --- In bang-phpug@yahoogro ups.com, "pinky_goyal22" <pinks.forums@ ...>

          wrote:

          >

          > Hi All!

          >

          > does any one have idea about multi threading in php ???

          > i have googled for the topic but didn't get much except php doesn't

          > support multithreading.

          >

          > if any one have idea about it or have some good link please provide

          me

          > that.

          >

          > thanks in advance.

          >

          > pinky

          >














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        • Anand Subramanian
          Can one of you send a few more detials on this. We are also trying to spawn multiple processes to accomplish something that takes many hours. (copying files
          Message 4 of 9 , Jan 4, 2008
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            Can one of you send a few more detials on this. We are also trying to spawn multiple processes to accomplish something that takes many hours. (copying files from another server). Any information will help.

            thanks

            anand

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            Sent: Friday, January 4, 2008 7:24:48 PM
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            Hi Amit,



            PHP might not support multi-thread but you can use fork to create as many as childs as you want and than wait for the signal from the child.



            --Thanks and Regards

            Vaijanath



            ----- Original Message ----

            From: Amit Rana <amitrana77@yahoo. com>

            To: bang-phpug@yahoogro ups.com

            Sent: Friday, 4 January, 2008 11:11:53 AM

            Subject: [bang-phpug] Re: Multithreading in php



            Hi,



            Yes, there is no multi threading support in php but if you want to



            start a parallel process you can curl (or start another http



            request). Also depends what you want to do, getting content via ajax



            is also a 'kind of' multi threading.



            On the server side if you are doing curl, dis advantage is that you



            there is no way to inform the main thread about success/failure of



            the child thread (if you dont want to wait).



            HTH



            --- In bang-phpug@yahoogro ups.com, "pinky_goyal22" <pinks.forums@ ...>



            wrote:



            >



            > Hi All!



            >



            > does any one have idea about multi threading in php ???



            > i have googled for the topic but didn't get much except php doesn't



            > support multithreading.



            >



            > if any one have idea about it or have some good link please provide



            me



            > that.



            >



            > thanks in advance.



            >



            > pinky



            >



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          • Amit Rana
            Hi Vaijnath, Thats what I meant, php as a language doesn t support muti threading there are ways to do it curl being one, fork being other, depends on what
            Message 5 of 9 , Jan 7, 2008
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              Hi Vaijnath,

              Thats what I meant, php 'as a language' doesn't
              support muti threading there are ways to do it curl
              being one, fork being other, depends on 'what' you
              want to do.

              Anand,
              What exactly do you want to do? keep a web page open
              (maintain session) for hours while your background
              process finishes?
              Can you share your application flow?

              Regards,
              Amit.


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            • Anand Subramanian
              Here is my application flow. There is no UI involved. We have a PHP program that reads an xml file (normally containing 5000+ records). Each of the record can
              Message 6 of 9 , Jan 8, 2008
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                Here is my application flow. There is no UI involved.
                We have a PHP program that reads an xml file (normally containing 5000+ records).
                Each of the record can contain one or more links for photos. The photos are stored in a diff server/diff domain.
                Our php program. will read the records, insert into db (this gets done pretty fast)
                Then it copies the photos for each record - this normally takes 5-8 hours to copy (5000+ photos)
                What I want to do is to run multiple processes to do this copy in parallel, so that i can have say 5 processes doing this copy .


                thanks

                Anand






                Hi Vaijnath,



                Thats what I meant, php 'as a language' doesn't

                support muti threading there are ways to do it curl

                being one, fork being other, depends on 'what' you

                want to do.



                Anand,

                What exactly do you want to do? keep a web page open

                (maintain session) for hours while your background

                process finishes?

                Can you share your application flow?



                Regards,

                Amit.



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              • pinky_goyal22
                with curl control returns on next line when the curl request completes.but if it a kind of multi threading support it should run multiple requests at the
                Message 7 of 9 , Jan 8, 2008
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                  with 'curl' control returns on next line when the curl request
                  completes.but if it a kind of multi threading support it should run
                  multiple requests at the same time.

                  --- In bang-phpug@yahoogroups.com, "Amit Rana" <amitrana77@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Hi,
                  > Yes, there is no multi threading support in php but if you want to
                  > start a parallel process you can curl (or start another http
                  > request). Also depends what you want to do, getting content via ajax
                  > is also a 'kind of' multi threading.
                  >
                  > On the server side if you are doing curl, dis advantage is that you
                  > there is no way to inform the main thread about success/failure of
                  > the child thread (if you dont want to wait).
                  >
                  > HTH
                  >
                  > --- In bang-phpug@yahoogroups.com, "pinky_goyal22" <pinks.forums@>
                  > wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Hi All!
                  > >
                  > > does any one have idea about multi threading in php ???
                  > > i have googled for the topic but didn't get much except php doesn't
                  > > support multithreading.
                  > >
                  > > if any one have idea about it or have some good link please provide
                  > me
                  > > that.
                  > >
                  > > thanks in advance.
                  > >
                  > > pinky
                  > >
                  >
                • Amit Rana
                  In this case what Vaijnath suggested will work pretty well. You dont even want to wait for child processes to finish. Just fork out different processes for
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jan 9, 2008
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                    In this case what Vaijnath suggested will work pretty
                    well. You dont even want to wait for child processes
                    to finish. Just fork out different processes for
                    copying. Just code intelligently so that all processes
                    dont end up working on same rows.

                    Regards,
                    Amit.

                    --- Anand Subramanian <axsubram@...> wrote:

                    >
                    > Here is my application flow. There is no UI
                    > involved.
                    > We have a PHP program that reads an xml file
                    > (normally containing 5000+ records).
                    > Each of the record can contain one or more links for
                    > photos. The photos are stored in a diff server/diff
                    > domain.
                    > Our php program. will read the records, insert into
                    > db (this gets done pretty fast)
                    > Then it copies the photos for each record - this
                    > normally takes 5-8 hours to copy (5000+ photos)
                    > What I want to do is to run multiple processes to do
                    > this copy in parallel, so that i can have say 5
                    > processes doing this copy .
                    >
                    >
                    > thanks
                    >
                    > Anand
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Hi Vaijnath,
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Thats what I meant, php 'as a language' doesn't
                    >
                    > support muti threading there are ways to do it curl
                    >
                    > being one, fork being other, depends on 'what' you
                    >
                    > want to do.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Anand,
                    >
                    > What exactly do you want to do? keep a web page
                    > open
                    >
                    > (maintain session) for hours while your background
                    >
                    > process finishes?
                    >
                    > Can you share your application flow?
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Regards,
                    >
                    > Amit.
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
                    > _________ _
                    >
                    > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
                    >
                    > http://www.yahoo com/r/hs
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > <!--
                    >
                    > #ygrp-mkp{
                    > border:1px solid
                    > #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px
                    > 0px;padding:0px 14px;}
                    > #ygrp-mkp hr{
                    > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
                    > #ygrp-mkp #hd{
                    >
                    color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px
                    > 0px;}
                    > #ygrp-mkp #ads{
                    > margin-bottom:10px;}
                    > #ygrp-mkp .ad{
                    > padding:0 0;}
                    > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{
                    > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}
                    > -->
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > <!--
                    >
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
                    > font-family:Arial;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
                    > margin:10px
                    >
                    0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
                    > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
                    > -->
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > <!--
                    >
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial,
                    > helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,
                    > helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
                    > #ygrp-text{
                    > font-family:Georgia;
                    > }
                    > #ygrp-text p{
                    > margin:0 0 1em 0;}
                    > #ygrp-tpmsgs{
                    > font-family:Arial;
                    > clear:both;}
                    > #ygrp-vitnav{
                    >
                    padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
                    > #ygrp-vitnav a{
                    > padding:0 1px;}
                    > #ygrp-actbar{
                    > clear:both;margin:25px
                    > 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;}
                    > #ygrp-actbar .left{
                    > float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
                    > .bld{font-weight:bold;}
                    > #ygrp-grft{
                    > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
                    > #ygrp-ft{
                    > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px
                    > solid #666;
                    > padding:5px 0;
                    > }
                    > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
                    > padding-bottom:10px;}
                    >
                    > #ygrp-vital{
                    >
                    background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px
                    > 0 8px 8px;}
                    > #ygrp-vital #vithd{
                    >
                    font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;}
                    > #ygrp-vital ul{
                    > padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
                    > #ygrp-vital ul li{
                    > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid
                    > #e0ecee;
                    > }
                    > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
                    >
                    font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;}
                    > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
                    > font-weight:bold;}
                    > #ygrp-vital a{
                    > text-decoration:none;}
                    >
                    > #ygrp-vital a:hover{
                    > text-decoration:underline;}
                    >
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
                    > color:#999;font-size:77%;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
                    > padding:6px
                    > 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
                    > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
                    > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
                    > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{
                    > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0
                    > 8px;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
                    > padding:8px 0;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
                    >
                    font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
                    > text-decoration:none;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
                    > text-decoration:underline;}
                    > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
                    > margin:0;}
                    > o{font-size:0;}
                    > .MsoNormal{
                    > margin:0 0 0 0;}
                    > #ygrp-text tt{
                    > font-size:120%;}
                    > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
                    > .replbq{margin:4;}
                    > -->
                    >
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                  • ganu.ullu@gmail.com
                    FYI http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1136.html this gives just an idea. but as per the above discussion. the multiple curl and exec will do your job.
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jan 9, 2008
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                      FYI
                      http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1136.html
                      this gives just an idea.

                      but as per the above discussion.
                      the multiple curl and exec will do your job.


                      On 1/9/08, Amit Rana <amitrana77@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > In this case what Vaijnath suggested will work pretty
                      > well. You dont even want to wait for child processes
                      > to finish. Just fork out different processes for
                      > copying. Just code intelligently so that all processes
                      > dont end up working on same rows.
                      >
                      > Regards,
                      > Amit.
                      >
                      > --- Anand Subramanian <axsubram@... <axsubram%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
                      >
                      > >
                      > > Here is my application flow. There is no UI
                      > > involved.
                      > > We have a PHP program that reads an xml file
                      > > (normally containing 5000+ records).
                      > > Each of the record can contain one or more links for
                      > > photos. The photos are stored in a diff server/diff
                      > > domain.
                      > > Our php program. will read the records, insert into
                      > > db (this gets done pretty fast)
                      > > Then it copies the photos for each record - this
                      > > normally takes 5-8 hours to copy (5000+ photos)
                      > > What I want to do is to run multiple processes to do
                      > > this copy in parallel, so that i can have say 5
                      > > processes doing this copy .
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > thanks
                      > >
                      > > Anand
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Hi Vaijnath,
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Thats what I meant, php 'as a language' doesn't
                      > >
                      > > support muti threading there are ways to do it curl
                      > >
                      > > being one, fork being other, depends on 'what' you
                      > >
                      > > want to do.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Anand,
                      > >
                      > > What exactly do you want to do? keep a web page
                      > > open
                      > >
                      > > (maintain session) for hours while your background
                      > >
                      > > process finishes?
                      > >
                      > > Can you share your application flow?
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Regards,
                      > >
                      > > Amit.
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________
                      > > _________ _
                      > >
                      > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.
                      > >
                      > > http://www.yahoo com/r/hs
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > <!--
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-mkp{
                      > > border:1px solid
                      > > #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px
                      > > 0px;padding:0px 14px;}
                      > > #ygrp-mkp hr{
                      > > border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}
                      > > #ygrp-mkp #hd{
                      > >
                      > color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px
                      > > 0px;}
                      > > #ygrp-mkp #ads{
                      > > margin-bottom:10px;}
                      > > #ygrp-mkp .ad{
                      > > padding:0 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-mkp .ad a{
                      > > color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;}
                      > > -->
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > <!--
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{
                      > > font-family:Arial;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{
                      > > margin:10px
                      > >
                      > 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{
                      > > margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}
                      > > -->
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > <!--
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial,
                      > > helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;}
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial,
                      > > helvetica, clean, sans-serif;}
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;}
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;}
                      > > #ygrp-text{
                      > > font-family:Georgia;
                      > > }
                      > > #ygrp-text p{
                      > > margin:0 0 1em 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-tpmsgs{
                      > > font-family:Arial;
                      > > clear:both;}
                      > > #ygrp-vitnav{
                      > >
                      > padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;}
                      > > #ygrp-vitnav a{
                      > > padding:0 1px;}
                      > > #ygrp-actbar{
                      > > clear:both;margin:25px
                      > > 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;}
                      > > #ygrp-actbar .left{
                      > > float:left;white-space:nowrap;}
                      > > .bld{font-weight:bold;}
                      > > #ygrp-grft{
                      > > font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-ft{
                      > > font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px
                      > > solid #666;
                      > > padding:5px 0;
                      > > }
                      > > #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{
                      > > padding-bottom:10px;}
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-vital{
                      > >
                      > background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px
                      > > 0 8px 8px;}
                      > > #ygrp-vital #vithd{
                      > >
                      >
                      > font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;}
                      > > #ygrp-vital ul{
                      > > padding:0;margin:2px 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-vital ul li{
                      > > list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid
                      > > #e0ecee;
                      > > }
                      > > #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{
                      > >
                      >
                      > font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;}
                      > > #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{
                      > > font-weight:bold;}
                      > > #ygrp-vital a{
                      > > text-decoration:none;}
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-vital a:hover{
                      > > text-decoration:underline;}
                      > >
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #hd{
                      > > color:#999;font-size:77%;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov{
                      > > padding:6px
                      > > 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{
                      > > padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{
                      > > list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{
                      > > text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor #nc{
                      > > background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0
                      > > 8px;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad{
                      > > padding:8px 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{
                      > >
                      >
                      > font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{
                      > > text-decoration:none;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{
                      > > text-decoration:underline;}
                      > > #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{
                      > > margin:0;}
                      > > o{font-size:0;}
                      > > .MsoNormal{
                      > > margin:0 0 0 0;}
                      > > #ygrp-text tt{
                      > > font-size:120%;}
                      > > blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;}
                      > > .replbq{margin:4;}
                      > > -->
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
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