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Update of PPR3 Draft 135-2012aq Elevator Monitoring for Ft Lauderdal Hi all, Attached is rev 5 of the PPR3 draft of 135-2012aq Elevator Monitoring. - Language fixes - Resolution of comments on draft rev 4 received through the
Isler, Bernhard
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Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para I agree with Bernhard. It is worth discussing - but not holding up AQ. Mike Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:04 AM, "Isler, Bernhard"
H. Michael Newman
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Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para Duffy, I would prefer to not take this into AQ. It would be best to bring this up with a respective proposal. Thanks, Bernhard Bernhard Isler Siemens
Isler, Bernhard
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Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' paramete I'm glad to have other voices chiming in on this. I do want to reframe one point raised: Where the re-subscription provides a heartbeat and failover for missed
BTL Manager
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Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para The value of 28800 as agreed upon was the longest "reasonable" lifetime we could agree upon. It is by no means an optimal lifetime. In fact, it is a terrible
    Carl Neilson
    Apr 2
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para There actually are use cases for shorter lifetimes currently used on live systems. For some of our equipment, when there is a known short duration temporary
    Clifford H Copass
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para I am not advocating the elimination of 'Time Remaining'. I would strongly argue in favor of retaining the Time Remaining' concept it anyone were to argue for
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para Duffy, What would it mean to eliminate the concept of Lifetime? How is the server told when to remove the subscription? How does the client know when it is
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    Apr 2
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 consider eliminating 'Lifetime' para A testing customer, quite reasonably, asked today: Could you let me know, what is validate time range for "LifeTime Parameter". It was not mentioned in BACnet
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    Fort Lauderdale Meeting Hi all, The Fort Lauderdale meeting is approaching. A draft agenda is attached, but may also be found on the Yahoo group:
    Isler, Bernhard
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update, add explicit language to state the requireme Bernhard, I agree with you about not extending AQ beyond COVM. We don't want to delay AQ any longer than necessary but we do want to address the other COV
    H. Michael Newman
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    New file uploaded to bacnet-oswg Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the bacnet-oswg group. File :
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update, add explicit language to state the requireme I totally understand confining 135-2012aq to just the DS-COVM-A and DS-COVM-B But even if so, please do add the explicit language to state the requirement or
    BTL Manager
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    Re: BI-50-1, the capitalization of Log_Buffer in 12.30.20 is not con I have made respective corrections, and have added a new section that deals with language and other inconsistencies among the log objects beyond the buffer
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    Mar 26
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update, add explicit language to state the requireme Duffy, Although I could agree with the proposed changes, I do not want to extend AQ beyond COVM. May I propose that these modifications are cast into a
    Isler, Bernhard
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    Addendum AQ Update, add explicit language to state the requirement o In the two proposed BIBBs, I would love to see explicit language added to state the requirement or non-requirement for support of both forms of 'Issue
    BTL Manager
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    Addendum AQ value of zero shall not be allowed I also agree with the direction to only allow limited lifetimes. The infinite lifetime has always only been an illusion. The subscription lapses at a
    BTL Manager
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    Antwort: RE: [bacnet-oswg] Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 in 13.X.1.1.3 Morning Bernhard, if we are discussing the "new" cov-multiple service only. I agree to only allow limited lifetimes Regards Christoph Christoph Zeller Senior
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 in 13.X.1.1.3 can't say: value of ze Thanks, Duffy! I will incorporate all these fixes, and hope to have an update ready for Ft Lauderdale. If there is no objection from the group, then I will
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    Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 in 13.X.1.1.3 can't say: value of zero s 13.X.1.1.3 Lifetime has sentence; A value of zero shall not be allowed. 12.11.X has Subscriptions may be created with finite lifetimes, meaning that the
    BTL Manager
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    Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 in 13.Y.3.1.2 and 13.Z.3.1.2 it should n 13.Y.3.1.2 and 13.Z.3.1.2 language seems to be carrying an anachronistic sentence fragment. Argument Subscriber Process Identifier Initiating Device Identifier
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    Re: Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 Examples The examples shown in E.1.X1 and E.1.X2 are too similar, if they are meant to be unrelated, or they are not-in-accord, if they are meant to be related. I would
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    Re: BI-50-1, the capitalization of Log_Buffer in 12.30.20 is not con I would always encourage to make all language in parallel coverage of objects consistent. Thus is a good standard made. - Duffy O'Craven BTL Manager On Fri,
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    Re: additional italic sentence added in the first paragraph of claus Thanks for the comments. I have changed this accordingly. See attachment. Bernhard Bernhard Isler Siemens Switzerland Ltd Building Technologies Division From:
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    Re: BI-50-1, the capitalization of Log_Buffer in 12.30.20 is not con While I am working on this, the question is whether we want to make all language in the log objects consistent. I would volunteer to add this to BI-050.
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    Re: additional italic sentence added in the first paragraph of claus In looking at the Interpretation Request, it appears the only issue was the sharing of subscriptions by using a "loose" definition of resubscription interval.
    Clifford H Copass
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    Re: additional italic sentence added in the first paragraph of claus Duffy et al., Of course, I agree with you that the proposed approach has the potential to create more records. I have added these changes to cover the
    Isler, Bernhard
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    Re: additional italic sentence added in the first paragraph of claus I vehemently disagree with the additional italic sentence added in the first paragraph of clause 12.25.10, and the strikethrough in clause 12.25.26 in
    BTL Manager
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    New change proposals related to Interpretation Requests Hi all, Attached you find three new change proposals that are related to Interpretation Requests as follows: BI-048-1 is on IC135-2012-1, Time-Change Record
    Isler, Bernhard
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    Addendum AQ Update for PPR3 Hi all, Attached you find the draft Addendum 135-2012aq revised for its next public review. This includes all revisions made to resolve the comments that the
    Isler, Bernhard
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