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EDIT: LTR - ECCO Tahoe shoes - Kurt Papke

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  • Edward
    Hello Kurt, This looks just fine, good detailed LTR. Upload at will. Thanks for a good test series, Ted
    Message 1 of 2 , Oct 2, 2011
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      Hello Kurt,

      This looks just fine, good detailed LTR. Upload at will.

      Thanks for a good test series,


      --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, Kurt Papke <kwpapke@...> wrote:
      > Ted: Here's my final report for your editing pleasure. Thanks in
      > advance for your your work on this test. --Kurt
      > http://www.backpackgeartest.org/reviews/test/TESTS/ECCO%20Tahoe%20shoes%20-%20Kurt%20Papke/#Long-Term_Report
      > or http://tinyurl.com/3btuyhc
      > Long-Term Report
      > Field Use
      > Date
      > Location
      > Trail
      > Distance
      > Terrain/ trail type
      > Weather
      > Altitude range
      > Insoles Used
      > August 13
      > Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Mountains just North of
      > Tucson, Arizona Ventana Canyon Trail 7.6 miles
      > (12.2 km) Mix of sand and granite boulders 82-88 F (28-31 C), winds
      > were extremely calm, 40-74% RH 3000-4800 ft
      > (915-1465 m) Orthotics
      > August 14 Coronado National Forest, Santa Rita Mountains Southwest of
      > Tucson, Arizona Arizona Trail, Kentucky Camp trailhead 7.2 miles
      > (11.6 km) Dirt, gravel and rocks 75-85 F (24-29 C), breeze from the
      > South, very high humidity from rains the night before 5100-5400 ft
      > (1550-1650 m) Orthotics
      > August 20-21
      > Coronado National Forest, Santa Rita Mountains Southwest of Tucson,
      > Arizona Cave Creek Trail
      > 8 miles
      > (13 km)
      > Dirt, gravel and rocks, some areas thick with weeds 60-80 F (16-27
      > C), thunderstorms shortened my hiking plans due to lightning
      > 5700-8100 ft
      > (1740-2470 m)
      > Orthotics
      > August 27
      > Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Mountains just North of
      > Tucson, Arizona Romero Canyon Trail
      > 3.6 miles
      > Sand, rough granite boulders
      > 75-85 F (24-29 C), still 2700-3600 ft
      > (820-1100 m)
      > Orthotics
      > September 18 Tortolita Mountains Northwest of Tucson, Arizona Alamo
      > Springs Trail
      > 6.6 miles (10.6 km) Mix of sand and granite boulders 75-85 F (24-29
      > C), light breeze 2700-3900 ft
      > (820-1190 m) Orthotics
      > September 25
      > Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Mountains just North of
      > Tucson, Arizona Bear Canyon Trail
      > 7.0 miles
      > (11.3 km)
      > Mix of sand and granite boulders 76-95 F (24-35 C)
      > 2700-3100 ft
      > (820-945 m)
      > Orthotics
      > October 2
      > Coronado National Forest, Santa Catalina Mountains just North of
      > Tucson, Arizona Romero Canyon Trail reprise
      > 6 miles
      > (9.7 km)
      > Sand, rough granite boulders 75-85 F (24-29 C), still 2700-3800 ft
      > (820-1160 m)
      > Orthotics
      > Field Usage Observations
      > Ventana Canyon
      > Ventana is one of the Santa Catalina Mountain canyons on the South
      > side of the range, close to Tucson. It follows somewhat along the
      > bottom of the canyon, traversing the dry creek bed periodically. This
      > makes the treadway quite a mix of sand, gravel, and boulders.
      > The Tahoes did great on this hike, no problems whatsoever.
      > Arizona Trail - Kentucky Camp
      > This section of the Arizona National Scenic Trail is high desert, so
      > it doesn't look like one would expect of Southern Arizona:
      > AZT
      > Arizona National Scenic Trail near Kentucky Camp
      > Its quite "green" in this area during the monsoon rains, and the
      > wildflowers are reblooming. Not all the trail looked like this.
      > There was another section, about 25% of the hike, on an OHV trail that
      > was as rocky as the Sutherland Trail. This hike didn't have nearly
      > the elevation change typical of what I have been hiking lately, so it
      > did not stress the shoe's climbing prowess. I did have to slop
      > through some wet areas, and the Tahoes did a good job of shedding the
      > sandy mud, at least on the rubbery portion of the shoes.
      > It was the second day in a row that I wore the Tahoes, and I was a bit
      > surprised that the outer edges of both of my little toes were sore and
      > calloused. They are rubbing a bit on the shoes, enough that two
      > consecutive hiking days in them caused some irritation. I'll keep my
      > eye on this in the future.
      > Cave Creek Trail
      > This was my first real backpacking trip with the Tahoes, and my pack
      > weight was about 40 lbs (18 kg). This seems a lot for an overnight
      > trip, but I was packing a lot of water because I didn't know how much
      > I'd find along the trail.
      > My socks were a combo of a liner plus a heavier wool hiking sock.
      > This seems to be the winner combination for me with these shoes, as I
      > had no hot or sore spots whatsoever. This was not a big mileage
      > weekend -- my goal was just to get out and spend some relaxing time in
      > the backcountry, but I really did not push the mileage on these shoes
      > during this trip.
      > This trail does a lot of climbing in a very short distance with few
      > switchbacks, so I was huffing and puffing pretty good. I had no heel
      > issues regardless of the pressure put on them by the climbing. I did
      > notice some bits of gravel getting into the shoes. I brought gaiters
      > with me, but neglected to put them on. Next time!
      > Romero Canyon
      > I get low back spasms every once in a while, and was recovering from
      > an incident the day I did this hike so this was just a little
      > leg-stretcher. Romero Canyon is an old standby trail for me, just a
      > few minutes from my house. For the intrepid shoe tester, it throws
      > just about everything a shoe needs to handle at it: altitude change,
      > sand, sharp granite rocks, uneven surfaces, etc. The Tahoes did their
      > usual great job. I was more careful than normal to not slip and fall,
      > which I have done several times on this trail during descents, because
      > my low back would not have liked that. I was glad to be wearing shoes
      > with exceptional grip on the way out of the canyon.
      > Alamo Springs Trail
      > The weather has cooled down a bit, so I returned to the Tortolita
      > Mountains and the Alamo Springs trail to try one more time to find the
      > petroglyphs that are supposedly in the area. A great hike, but alas,
      > no petroglyphs were found. Right after I took this picture of the
      > Tahoe shoes next to some wild Morning Glories growing along the trail
      > I managed to turn my ankle on a rock:
      > Morning Glories
      > No injuries, but it does point out that these are *not* boots with
      > ankle support, they are shoes.
      > Bear Canyon Trail
      > Though I've been to Sabino Canyon many times, I have never taken the
      > Bear Canyon Trail that begins at the same trailhead. We'd had some
      > nice September rains, and I figured there would be some water running
      > through Seven Falls, and I was not disappointed. The trail crosses
      > the stream many times, and though I was able to rock-skip in most
      > crossings, the Tahoes saw their first slosh through very shallow water
      > on this hike. By tiptoeing I was able to keep my socks dry. This
      > trail requires a bit of a road walk at the beginning and end, and I
      > found the Tahoes to be very comfortable in this situation.
      > I felt tired during this hike, and the Tahoes felt heavy on my feet.
      > It seems when I'm at a high energy level the weight of the shoes
      > aren't a bother, but when fatigue is a factor I notice their heft.
      > Romero Canyon Reprise
      > Since this was to be my last test hike with these shoes, I thought I'd
      > close it out with one of my favorite trails. I have slipped more
      > frequently descending this trail than any other, I think because it
      > gets such heavy traffic that the dust and sand is often kicked onto
      > the granite making for a slippery surface, but the Ecco Tahoes held on
      > all the way down. My Plantar Fasciitis has been flaring up again, but
      > with the orthotics in-place I was able to make the hike with no
      > issues. Here's what the shoes looked like at the end of the test,
      > standing in the stream flowing down Romero Canyon:
      > Tahoes at the end of the trail
      > Summary
      > I am likely to use the Tahoes on future hikes mostly where I expect
      > rocky conditions and I need a substantial shoe to protect my feet. I
      > am not a big fan of over-the-ankle boots, so these shoes are a nice
      > match for my needs in those situations. I did not have an opportunity
      > to hike in wet conditions during the test period so I cannot comment
      > on their performance in that dimension. The shoes held up very well
      > despite the distance I hiked in them and the rocky conditions they
      > were worn in.
      > Additional kudos:
      > Great comfort in all conditions from sand to rocks.
      > Good durability and wear -- with the exception of some trail dust
      > they look as good as the day they arrived.
      > Final improvement suggestions:
      > Not the lightest shoe on the trail, but with comfort and foot
      > protection I expect a heavier shoe.
      > I never did clean them, as I was concerned with ruining the
      > leather. They stayed pretty clean, just got a little dusty, but I did
      > not have to walk in deep mud during the test period. I found it to be
      > a bit of a hassle to have to buy a specialty product to clean them.
      > Many thanks to ECCO and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to
      > test this product.
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