ATTN: ECCO testers
- The folder has been corrected - please upload.
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 9:21 AM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Re: IR: ECCO - Xpedition Lite Shoes - Kurt Papke
Having got the name out of the way, the folder still reads Xpedition Lite; I assume it should read Xpedition Lite Tahoe, or just Tahoe.
Anyway, your edit is here; please hold off on upload until Kathy has fixed the DB etc.
EDIT: shoe tongue has an interesting stiction to it that holds the laces in place
I see there is a portmanteau word "stiction"; not clear if that is what you meant. In either case, I feel an alternate word is appropriate, as this doesn't communicate to me exactly what the design feature is and does.
EDIT: report from the field on the Tahoe's.
Tahoes (simple plural).
Good IR, thanks,
> ECCO Tahoe Shoes
> Test Series by Kurt Papke
> Initial Report - May 16, 2011
> Tester Information
> Name: Kurt Papke
> Age: 57
> Gender: Male
> Height: 6' 4" (193 cm)
> Weight: 230 lbs (104 kg)
> Email address: kwpapke (at) gmail (dot) com
> City, State, Country: Tucson, Arizona USA
> My backpacking background is a combination of the Minnesota area,
> where I have lived most of my adult life, and Southern Arizona where I
> moved about two years ago to Tucson for a new job. The trails I hike
> are rocky -- I need shoes that protect my feet and provide good
> traction on sand, gravel and stones.
> Initial Report
> Product Facts
> Product Information
> Ecco shoes
> Photo courtesy ECCO USA
> Manufacturer website
> Year manufactured
> Tahoe (formerly Xpedition Lite)
> Color tested
> Moon Rock - Ice White
> (Expresso - Coffee also available)
> Size tested
> EUR 46
> Availability of other sizes depends on color and availability. At the
> time of writing, sizes EUR 41, 42 and 45 were also available.
> $150 USD
> Weight (measured)
> 1 lb 3.9 oz (560 g) Right
> 1 lb 4.4 oz (580 g) Left
> Total: 2 lb 8.3 oz
> (1140 g)
> Material - upper
> Yak leather and "textiles"
> Material - soles
> ECCO performance rubber
> The Tahoe shoes are a member of ECCO's Performance line of products.
> They are unlined and hence not waterproof, a feature I neither need
> nor want for hiking in the Sonoran desert.
> Initial Inspection
> Tops & bottomsOn removal from the packing box I inspected the shoes
> for any obvious defects or workmanship problems. I could find nothing
> - they were absolutely immaculate. As soon as I picked the shoes up I
> noticed a real heft to them - this is footwear of substance.
> I like shoes to have good flexibility at the ball of the foot, but
> with rigidity over the soles. These shoes did not disappoint: I can
> flex them at the right spot, yet in the insteps they are extremely
> As can be seen by the photos these are visually striking shoes. They
> look stunning. The Yak leather on the uppers has an almost buttery
> feel to it.
> Visible in the photo at left is the aggressive lugging on the bottoms
> of the soles. Looks like it should have good traction on my trails.
> Also visible on the tops of the shoes is the substantial toe plate; it
> is very rigid and should give good protection when I stub my toes on a
> In the photo above the rigid heel plate can be seen at the back of the
> shoe. This has some flex to it, but should hold my heels firmly in
> The laces are looped through webbing straps, a middle leather loop,
> and finally a through-hole at the top. These look like they should
> transfer the lace tension nicely to the various structural elements.
> Ventilation looks like it will be primarily provided by the horizontal
> strip of grid textile between the two pieces of leather as shown in
> the top picture. When I feel that strip on the inside of the shoe
> there is no padding along that strip, so I expect moisture will
> readily escape.
> First Impressions
> Size: according to the ECCO sizing chart the EUR 46 shoe is equivalent
> to a US 12-12.5. My foot is more in the size 12.5 category, so I'll
> have to be careful to not wear thick socks. When I put them on and
> laced them up they felt snug, but enough space in the toes that I
> should not have problems. My little toes hit the sides of the shoe
> just past where the toe plate ends, so there should be good "give" to
> allow my toes to roam a bit.
> Lacing: the leather "plates" on the shoe tongue has an interesting
> stiction to it that holds the laces in place while tightening. It
> does require that the lower laces be tightened, then the upper laces.
> Trying them out: after lacing them up I walked around the house on our
> concrete floors. These shoes feel very substantial: they are a
> low-hiker boot, not what I would use for trail running. Lateral
> stability seems excellent - my feet do not want to rock from side to
> side with these shoes on. This should prevent some turned ankles.
> There is some nice "give" in the heels -- when I stomp down on the
> concrete with the heels I can feel the shoes absorb a lot of the
> I am excited to get these shoes out onto the trail. I am particularly
> interested to see how well they cope with the sharp rocks I often have
> to hike on.
> * Excellent out-of-the-box quality.
> * Very attractive. I won't be ashamed to wear these shoes for
> casual use in-town.
> * Very substantial soles and stiff foot plate, yet flexible at the
> balls of the foot.
> * Great foot protection at toes, heels and soles.
> * Not lightweight. It'll be interesting to see if I experience
> any fatigue from hoofing it up the local mountains with this much
> weight on my feet.
> Please check back in about two months when I'll file my long-term
> report from the field on the Tahoe's.
> Many thanks to ECCO and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to
> test this product.
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