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EDIT: [backpackgeartesters] FR - Mountain Khakis Flannel Lined OMPs - Richard Lyon

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  • Mark McLauchlin
    G Day Richard, Not a single edit for you my friend. Good report, please upload at your convenience. Cheers Mark From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
    Message 1 of 3 , Jan 2, 2010
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      G'Day Richard,

      Not a single edit for you my friend.

      Good report, please upload at your convenience.



      From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richardglyon
      Sent: Friday, 1 January 2010 4:59 AM
      To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [backpackgeartesters] FR - Mountain Khakis Flannel Lined OMPs -
      Richard Lyon

      Happy New Year, Mark.Below is the plain text of the Field Report section on
      the Lined OMPs; full report in html is in the Tests folder at
      Cheers, Richard

      December 31, 2009
      I have worn the trousers often these past two months - at least half a dozen
      day hikes, one overnight backpacking trip, almost daily on my morning walks
      with my two dogs, and frequently as casual wear on weekends. The trousers
      were the most welcome on a five-day trip to Jackson, Wyoming and Victor,
      Idaho just after Christmas. I wore them the two days I was in town, in
      temperatures ranging from 7 to 25 F (-14 to -4 C), with little wind and
      occasional snow.
      In Texas temperatures ranged from 25-65 F (-4 to 18 C), often with brisk
      winds that made it seem considerably colder. The coldest reported wind-chill
      (I live about a mile from the airport where this is officially measured for
      Dallas) was on a morning walk at 5 am - 5 F (-15 C). Twice I wore the
      trousers in a steady rain, many more times in a drizzle or damp fog, and
      twice when it was snowing.
      On the overnighter and day hikes I wore merino wool or Capilene boxer shorts
      underneath; in the front country the boxers were cotton.
      I've washed the trousers probably five times. They are tossed into my
      front-loading washer with other cotton items (and garments of any other
      fabric that will tolerate fabric softener) and washed on a normal cycle,
      with warm water, and then dried over medium-high heat in my dryer. I use
      standard laundry detergent and fabric softener in the wash and a fabric
      softener sheet during drying.
      Fit and Comfort. After the use and laundering described above these pants
      still fit me very well. As is true of many cotton trousers I've worn over
      the years, even those advertised as "pre-shrunk," these pants tend to shrink
      slightly in the waist from the dryer's heat, but expand back to normal after
      less than fifteen minutes' wear. I'd say that these are sized a little thin,
      for they have not slipped down during use, fitting my 37 inch (93 cm) waist
      a bit more snugly than most size 38 pants. Fit in the seat is just right,
      suggesting that this measurement is slightly larger than usual; if available
      I buy "Tall" sizes, which have a longer seat.
      These pants also remain comfortable when I'm walking, with no chafing in the
      crotch or waist, due in part to the fact that I haven't worn them during hot
      weather or heavy aerobic exercise and so haven't perspired much. The flannel
      remains soft and smooth against my skin. The heavy canvas feels about the
      same too. As noted in my Initial Report this fabric's hand is much less
      abrasive than its heavy-duty appearance suggests, quite comfortable against
      my skin when I'm wearing my unlined OMPs. In fact comfortable is
      understatement. As the temperatures drop and the winds pick up the lined
      OMPs are rapidly becoming my favorite wintertime leisure pants.
      Durability. Perhaps the color has lightened a tad, but otherwise the pants
      look like new. I haven't ironed them, and when they come out of the dryer
      they look a bit rumpled, but after a short time on my legs that look
      vanishes. I inspected carefully but couldn't find a loose stitch. Many of my
      day hikes and dog walks involve charging through the sage and other
      underbrush on the Texas prairie, and if the pants picked up a scratch it was
      gone after emerging from the washer.
      Warmth. I've been quite comfortable throughout the temperature range in
      which I've worn these pants, never overheating when hiking. That's a
      pleasant change from other lined pants I've worn in the past, in which I
      usually start to perspire at 50 F (10 C) during even moderate exercise. The
      lined MKs either breathe better or use a lighter-weight flannel than the
      others I've worn. Whatever the reason, these are versatile trousers.
      Wind resistance is these pants' best attribute, though the wide temperature
      range is a close second. I had a chance to discover how much of this is due
      to the lining in mid-December, on one of the colder and windier days I
      experienced. I had run a wash overnight, so the lined MKs were unavailable
      for my walk with the hounds. I wore my unlined OMPs (by accident, they
      happened to be on top of the shelf), and quickly noticed how much colder my
      legs were than the previous morning, despite comparable weather conditions.
      I now choose the lined MKs whenever I expect strong winds, and schedule my
      laundry to make sure I can wear them when colder weather is forecast.
      I have encountered one problem with warmth, however, which in my view limits
      if not destroys these pants' efficacy in the backcountry. Mountain Khakis
      does not advertise the lined OMPs as treated for water resistance. In snow
      or light rain the tight weave of the canvas does an excellent job of
      repelling water, aided no doubt by the extra thickness the flannel provides.
      But a splash from a puddle or direct exposure to heavy rain wets the fabrics
      (canvas and liner) through, and once soaked the two stay wet for a long
      time. Cotton is cotton, after all, and this is very heavy cotton. This isn't
      particular to these trousers; the same thing happens with my favorite blue
      jeans. In cold temperatures the damp fabric against my skin chills rather
      than insulates. Because of this, as with any other all-cotton garment I
      hesitate to rely on the lined OMPs in any situation when a dry pair of
      trousers is not readily available. For me that means no backcountry use.
      Just as I have no wish to wear a sodden pair of cotton trousers (hazardous
      to my health), I have no wish to carry a sodden pair of trousers (heavy and
      difficult to isolate in a pack).
      Packability. With their bulky fabric and second layer these trousers don't
      pack down very small. Even when dry they're heavy too, compared to several
      pairs of waterproof-breathable alternatives in the closet. This is another
      reason that I can't recommend the lined OMPs for backcountry use.
      Summary. For casual wear the Mountain Khakis Lined Original Mountain Pants
      are terrific: comfortable, warm, casually stylish, and durable. The fabrics
      that make them so comfortable around the house, however, in my opinion make
      them unsuitable for winter backpacking.
      My Field Report ends here. Please check back in two months' time for my Long
      Term Report. My thanks to Mountain Khakis and BackpackGearTest.org for this
      testing opportunity.

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    • richardglyon
      Mark, Thanks and Happy New Year. Uploaded and Tests folder copy deleted. Cheers, Richard
      Message 2 of 3 , Jan 2, 2010
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        Mark, Thanks and Happy New Year. Uploaded and Tests folder copy deleted. Cheers, Richard

        --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "Mark McLauchlin" <mark@...> wrote:
        > G'Day Richard,
        > Not a single edit for you my friend.
        > Good report, please upload at your convenience.
        > Cheers
        > Mark
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