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  • Mark McLauchlin
    G Day Greg, I wouldn t be concerned at all with the content of your report. I found it to be informative without seeming too critical. In saying that this is
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      G'Day Greg,

      I wouldn't be concerned at all with the content of your report. I found it
      to be informative without seeming too critical. In saying that this is why
      we test gear, I would hate to think that you sugar coated a report, I then
      purchased the gear and found the same issues as yourself. So good pickup and
      even better for being diplomatic in your approach.

      Few small edits then you are good to upload, don't forget to delete the test

      EDIT: gear on two-night
      >>gear on a two-night

      EDIT: Pull Loopo is the alt text on one of your images,
      >>Pull Loop is what I assume you are referring to?

      EDIT: final installment
      >>final instalment



      From: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
      [mailto:backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
      Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2009 11:20 AM
      To: backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [backpackgeartesters] [FR] Osprey Atmos 65 - Greg M

      Hey Mark,

      I feel like I struggled with this one quite a bit. I tried to voice my
      concerns over the fit but didn't want to come off as overly critical. I
      welcome any comments or suggestions that you might have. Thanks in advance
      for the edits!

      -- OR --

      Greg M


      July 28, 2009

      <a name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>

      Testing Conditions and Locations

      The first two months of my testing were a little different from my usual
      stomping grounds in Florida. My summer travels brought me up into
      Massachusetts and Maine which provided me a bit of relief from the
      oppressive Florida heat and a new testing opportunity for the Atmos. The
      Atmos hauled my gear on two-night trip in Southern Maine around Folly Pond
      in addition to a short overnighter on the Florida Trail.

      Elevations have ranged between sea level and 285 ft (0 m - 87 m),
      temperatures in Maine ranged from 52 F during the night up to around 75 F
      during the day (11 C - 24 C) with temperatures in Florida starting at 75 F
      and rose to nearly 95 F (24 C - 35 C), and I encountered precipitation on
      two of the occasions.

      Field Observations and Performance

      At this point I have mixed feelings about the Atmos that are pulling me in
      different directions when it comes to forming an opinion on the pack. On one
      hand, I really like the features and most of the design elements that the
      Atmos offers. On the other hand, there are one or two design issues that are
      effecting the fit and physical comfort of the pack.

      As I mentioned in my Initial Report, I immediately noticed a precarious
      sizing issue with the large size. The issue that I had originally was
      resolved by moving down in pack size. My problem at this point must revolve
      around my torso length and specific proportions and measurements. I feel
      like the medium is a little bit short for my torso length while the large
      was considerably too large. It's almost as if I'm stuck in a no-man's land
      of sorts regarding the sizing. What I know from the exchange is that, for
      me, the medium is a better fit in terms of torso length than the Large but
      it is still not entirely perfect.

      The other issue that arose after I swapped to a medium is the length of the
      shoulder straps and the hip belt. I don't have any of the straps maxed out,
      but I'm pretty close on the shoulders and hips. Normally having a medium
      torso but needing a large harness size (for the shoulders and hips) isn't a
      problem with Osprey, unfortunately the Atmos is one of the models with a
      fixed harness that cannot be swapped out. The pack fits fine with the medium
      harness, but I'd certainly prefer it if it were the larger size to give me
      some additional adjustment room.

      <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Pull Loopo">>Sizing issues aside, I'm
      reasonably pleased with the rest of what the Atmos has to offer. Osprey
      certainly didn't skimp on the features on the Atmos. There are quite a few
      little details that have been useful for me. One of the smaller details, but
      one that I really like, are the large hoop zipper pulls on the vertical
      pockets and the sleeping bag compartment. The Stow-on-the-Go trekking pole
      attachment has also been nice handy for the times I need to get my poles
      stored quickly so I can be hands free but then be able to get them back
      in-hand without having to stop and take my pack off. I have also been using
      the external tool loop to strap on a small camp stool.

      <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Problem Spot">>The suspension and I, just
      like the sizing, have a bit of a love-hate relationship. When I've had my
      pack weight under 30 lb (13.6 kg), even for long hours and high miles, I've
      really liked it. At these lighter weights the AirSpeed suspension with the
      curved frame and mesh backpanel have really been a blessing in warmer
      weather. Ventilation across my back has been very good overall.
      Additionally, the waffle pattern hip belt and shoulder straps seem to me to
      have a positive experience in terms of ventilation and moving fresh air
      across these normally restricted areas.

      Problems with the suspension for me do not start to arise until I creep up
      above 35 lb (15.9 kg) or so. At this point I start to feel additional stress
      in my shoulders combined with awkward pressure on my hips. In my opinion,
      the issue for me here is the lack of a lumbar pad in the design. At certain
      angles and under certain conditions part of the suspension starts to push
      directly on my hips which can be very uncomfortable. The photo to the left
      is the problem "area" of the suspension that starts riding on me. I suppose
      that getting up over 35 lb (15.9 kg) is really climbing away from the
      purpose of an "lightweight" suspension, but it's still worth mentioning.

      Regardless of the weight I've been hauling, one thing I haven't had any
      issues with is being off-balance. I have had no problems adjusting to the
      shift in my center of gravity due to the curved backpanel, which was one of
      my original concerns.

      Down the Trail

      The Atmos 65 is a mixed bag of features that I really love weighed against
      one or two design issues that are effecting the fit and physical comfort of
      the pack. I really feel like I need to spend more time in the pack before I
      can start to draw any real conclusions about the Atmos. I must say that I
      feel like the features and overall design are very well thought out and
      executed. For lack of a better term I think I'd call it "user friendly".
      However, even this early on I know there are two things I'd really like to
      see changed. I'd like to see the addition of a lumbar pad to improve the fit
      up against my back and prevent rubbing on the pack body under heavier loads
      and more adjustment to the suspension of the pack itself so I could
      customize it to fit my unique shape a little better.

      This concludes my Field Report on the Osprey Atmos 65. Please check back in
      late September for the final installment of my test report which I'm sure
      will have considerably more insight into the ins and outs of the Atmos. I'd
      like to thank Osprey and BackpackGearTest.org for the opportunity to
      participate in this series!

      This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
      Copyright 2009. All rights reserved.

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