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  • Jenn K.
    Mike Go ahead and upload your report. Jenn K. ... canoe ... of ... in ... manufacturer s ... = PACKAGE ... the ... OF ... and ... that ... dark ... that
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      Go ahead and upload your report.
      Jenn K.

      --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "mikejr232323"
      <mikejr232323@...> wrote:
      > http://tinyurl.com/ywycqd
      > LTR
      > December 02, 2007
      > NAME: Mike Daurio Jr.
      > EMAIL: mikejr232323@...
      > AGE: 30
      > LOCATION: Wonder Lake, Illinois USA
      > GENDER: m
      > HEIGHT: 6' 0" (1.83 m)
      > WEIGHT: 183 lb (83.00 kg)
      > I am quite new to backpacking. My experience lies mostly as a
      > guide. My inspiration to get more into this sport/hobby was a
      > backpack trip to Thailand in 2005. Due to my experience I am fond
      > lightweight, waterproof quality gear. I backpack in mainly hilly
      > forested areas and of course near rivers and streams. I also do a
      > lot of backpack traveling to other countries. I am a 3-season
      > backpacker. Every year I spend time in the Ozarks in Missouri and
      > Voyageurs National Park in Minnesota. I'd love to explore
      > Canyonlands National Park in Utah.
      > Manufacturer: Katadyn Products AG
      > Year of Manufacture: 2007
      > Manufacturer's Website: <<HYPERLINK GOES HERE -
      > MSRP: N/A
      > Listed Weight: 13 oz (369 g)
      > Measured Weight: 13.5 oz ( 383 g)
      > Size: 6 in x 4 in x 4 in (15 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm)
      > Hose length: 48 in (120 cm)
      > Other details:
      > The description and specifications as taken from the
      > packaging:
      > Filter technology: .3 micron pleated glass fiber removes bacteria,
      > cysts, and sediment, removable filter protector, activated carbon
      > core. 99.9999% Klebsiella, 99.99% Giardia and Cryptosporidium.
      > Capacity of filter 200 gallons (750 l) depending on water quality.
      > Large volume water bag (2.6 gal / 10 l)
      > Easy open/close buckle system
      > Long output hose with on/off valve
      > Replacement Cartridge
      > 1120070
      = "PACKAGE">>
      > The filter came packaged in an oversized cardboard box and in good
      > condition. The manufacturer could have used a smaller shipping box
      > for the filter I'm sure. When I opened the shipping container I
      > found the filter in its manufactured packaging. This box was
      > appropriate for its contents. On the front of the box there is an
      > opening which would give a finger access to feel the material of
      > filter's bag. I do not know what function this would serve to the
      > consumer. I'd feel more comfortable that the contents wouldn't be
      > damaged if the box wasn't accessible like that.
      > After opening the box to reveal the filter I read the box to
      > inventory the parts. The box reads as follows:
      > 1- 2.6 gallon water bag
      > 1- Anti Clog Hiker PRO Microfilter Cartridge
      > 1- removable filter protector
      > 48" Output Hose
      > 1- on/off output hose valve
      > BOX">>
      > Also included in the package was a small bag containing a sponge
      > a small tube of silicone grease, and an instruction booklet.
      > My initial impression was that I was without the removable filter
      > protector but it was already installed on the cartridge.
      > The filter is a dry bag type of bag with a hole at the bottom. A
      > filter element is installed in the hole to create a gravity fed
      > filter. The bag is made of vinyl and looks as the type of vinyl
      > would retain its stiffness in the hot sun. The bag is a soft
      > blue and the color concerns me a bit. I am afraid the color of the
      > bag will allow it to absorb the suns hot rays and changing the
      > temperature of the output of water. I look forward to testing the
      > sun's affect on the bag. The bag closes with a roll top feature
      > clips together. I am familiar with these as I am a canoe guide for
      > month out of the year, and I find this clip on most dry bags. The
      > clip looks sturdy; however, it is placed at the fulcrum of where
      > bag will be hanging.
      > The instruction booklet starts out by explaining how to install the
      > filter protector that has already been installed by the
      > manufacturer. I am glad I read this as the booklet later states
      > to clean it if the filter's output is decreased due to clogging.
      > next step is the filter assembly. I must admit that with most
      > purchases I make I skip the instruction booklet and try to assemble
      > it before opening. This is as far as I got without having to
      > reference the instructions. The filter is clearly labeled OUT so I
      > knew I was putting it in correctly. The instructions clearly
      > the need for the silicone grease in this area. They also voice
      > caution to not grabbing the cartridge which can damage it. After
      > lubing the O ring I placed the cartridge in the hole and grabbed
      > hard ring at the bottom of the bag. I applied pressure with my
      > thumbs to the cartridge and it slipped in with ease. I figure this
      > is the best way to insert it without damaging the filter.
      > The instructions have a diagram to show assembly of the
      > to the bag, fastened to the bag by a threaded cap. This was my
      > element of concern. If the cartridge is not fully installed the
      > will not catch the threads. This was my indication to grab the
      > instructions. Once I was educated and the cartridge was installed
      > correctly the cap grabbed easily to the threads. I tightened the
      > a little too much and the threads gave. I then tried over and
      > tightened it just to the point of snugness.
      > The booklet then goes on to say to flush the cartridge with 2
      > liters ( 2.53 gal) of water and that it may produce discolored
      > on the flush cycle. It explains that this is normal.
      > The booklet never mentions how to install the on / off valve.
      > took me a good minute just to figure it out. <<IMAGE GOES HERE.
      > The instructions continue on to explain how to fill, hang, and
      > filtering. I will be referencing the instructions in the next
      > section on these matters. Confident everything was installed
      > correctly I proceeded to try it out.
      > The instruction's state to fill the bag with separate container.
      > I will not be bringing any other container with me I tried filling
      > without one. The book also warns not to touch the hose to the
      > of water.
      > I filled the bag in the kitchen sink. I thought it would be
      > but it proved a bit challenging but not impossible. During the
      > filling period, hose became disconnected but I couldn't deal with
      > that until it was full. When full, I followed the instructions to
      > roll the bag 4-5 times and snap it closed. I then hung it on a
      > right outside my back door. Reattaching the hose proved difficult
      > while it was draining. After about a minute it finally slipped
      > place. The shut off valve did an adequate job of stopping the
      > of water. It surprisingly didn't drip either. I started the
      > draining into a 1 liter bottle ( 34 fl oz) it took 2 minutes 49
      > seconds to fill. I then let the remainder of the water drain into
      > pan. I do not have a measurement on how much water was in the
      > bladder but it took 25 minutes 50 seconds for the rest to drain.
      > The filter seems to work better when the hose is as straight as
      > possible. I will be commenting on its application in the field
      > report.
      > I lead a wilderness canoe trip to the Ozark National Scenic
      > every year. We canoe up
      > to 60 miles (97 km) of the Current River and do day hikes about
      > other
      > day. Last year we completed a 20 mi (32 km)section of the Ozark
      > when
      > finished canoeing. We will be returning this year. I also spend time
      > in Voyageurs National Park every year as my fiancée's family owns a
      > home on Lake Kabetogama. We spend about a week canoeing and
      > exploring the islands. This year we are planning a 2-day adventure
      > on the locator lake trail and another two day trip to Cruiser Lake.
      > My summer is also filled with many day hikes and small
      > camping trips to the many state parks in Illinois and Wisconsin. My
      > favorite being Kettle Moraine State park in Wisconsin.
      > TEST PLAN:
      > I will be using the filter in Minnesota, and Missouri this year on
      > weeklong trips. The Missouri trip is where it will get the biggest
      > test. I lead a group of 18 people down the current river. It is a
      > spring fed river and we usually fill up water at the ranger
      > It will be a five day trip and we will probably use the filter
      > all day. We will be filling up (2) five gallon thermos cooler 1-2
      > times a day.
      > Temperature could range anywhere from 60 degrees F (16 degrees C)
      > 100 degrees F (38 degrees C).
      > The filter will be used in rocky, wet, and dirty conditions. Water
      > will range from clear spring fed moving water, to murky water that
      > has been sitting. My test plan will be built around function,
      > filtration, and durability.
      > Function:
      > Time of filtration will be a heavily weighted category for the
      > filter. We my stop to fill up midday and still need to keep on
      > schedule. Also after cooking the thermos would have to be
      > replenished. How long will that take?
      > Is the bag easily filled in different situations? A shallow creek?
      > How hard is it to change the filter cartridge? Is it easily
      > carried? How well
      > does the shutoff valves work? I also have concern about how easy
      > will be to find a place to hang the bag. Does the clip hold? I
      > also bring a rope to make sure we will be able to find a place to
      > hang it.
      > Filtration:
      > How does the water look smell and taste? Does the particles and
      > debris I may pick up sit in the bag? Is it easy to clean out
      > afterwards? How does it do with various clarities of water? Does
      > time to filter decline over the long term use of the cartridge?
      > Durability:
      > Can the material hold up if stored exposed on my canoe, or will it
      > need to be in a protected area? Does it soften when sitting in the
      > sun? Does that significantly effect the temp of the water? The
      > bladder looks like it can be hung, will it stretch or hold with the
      > weight of the water?
      > SUMMARY
      > I look forward to getting in the field to test the
      > performance of the filter. It seems to be the perfect product for
      > my needs. Thank you to Katadyn and Backpackgeartest.org for the
      > opportunity to test the filter.
      > This concludes my Initial report.
      > <a name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>
      > I was able to use the filter on two separate trips this summer.
      > first was a wilderness canoe trip down the Current River with
      > sixteen people. After we floated for six days, we then spent a
      > night on the Ozark Trail. Terrain was mostly gravel bars and
      > mountainous forests. The river winds through large tree covered
      > bluffs and naturally creates huge gravel bars. Most of the time
      > these bars are lined with dense forests. <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT
      > = "IMAGE 2" IMAGE CAPTION = "Our terrain for six days">>
      > As the river winds through the mountains, its elevations receded
      > from 852 ft (260 m) above sea level down to 570 ft (174 m).
      > on the trail elevations reached 870 ft (265 m). The trail's
      > was dirt or gravel trail through dense forests primed with hungry
      > deer flies ready to bite and annoy us. Temperatures scorched to a
      > recorded 113 degrees F (45 C) dropping to a comfortable 72 degrees
      > (22 C) at night.
      > The second was a five day adventure in Voyageurs National Park in
      > Minnesota. It was spent with my fiancée, and her two younger
      > brothers. We canoed Lake Kabetogama setting up three different
      > base camps and heading out on numerous day hikes to do some
      > exploring. The terrain is rocky shores covered in grass and moss,
      > some sandy beaches, and dense northwoods forests containing pines,
      > poplars, and quaking aspen. Elevations stayed pretty constant
      > between 1100 -1200 ft (335-366 m) above sea level. Temperatures
      > between 85-89 degrees F (29-32 C) during the sunny days, and got
      > down to almost 60 degrees F (16 C) at night.
      > On the first trip the filter was perfect for our use. Sixteen
      > were on our trip each having two Lexan bottles (32 total) and we
      > two 5 gallon (19 L) containers. I am a beginning backpacker
      > have only borrowed a pump style filter. I couldn't imagine using
      > that to fill up 32 Lexan bottles or two 5 gallon (19 L) water
      > coolers. Given the temps outside, and size of the group, the
      > received tremendous use. Before we launched we filled up at our
      > outfitter's spigot. I tried the water it had a strong iron taste.
      > got the first bag full filtering into the water cooler while we
      > loaded the bus. The filter takes about 20 minutes to drain and
      > filter its capacity. I got two of these done in the time it took
      > load. We then transferred the water to our Lexan bottles. We only
      > had enough filtered water for about half of the individual bottles,
      > so it was decided we all got one iron tasting and one filtered
      > bottle. We then filled the two water coolers and shipped off. I
      > have found no information that the filter filters iron; however, in
      > comparison the filtered water was definitely more palatable. There
      > was virtually no taste of the heavy iron content the water from the
      > spigot had. As for quality of water I was impressed already.
      > Daily we had to filter a large amount of water so every stop, I
      > replenishing the water coolers, and from the water coolers we
      > replenished our Lexan bottles. It was a good system and we'd
      > our breaks around the time it took to filter a bag of water. While
      > was in charge of water throughout the day when we stopped to camp I
      > shared the responsibility with my traveling partners. The others
      > found the process of filling the bag and filtering the water,
      > equally simple.
      > As our surroundings changed I had to get creative to find places
      > to hang the bag and even more creative on how to hang it. I
      > sometimes lucked out with a sturdy branch about 7 ft (213 cm) from
      > the ground. For this ideal situation hanging the bag was as simple
      > as clicking the clasps in place around the branch. <<IMAGE GOES
      > ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 1" IMAGE CAPTION = "Hanging with a bungee">>
      > A couple of times I had to bungee it around the trunk of a tree
      > the ideal height. I found it useful to bring a 25 ft (762 cm) rope
      > to help create possibilities for hanging. I'd fill the bladder and
      > attach the rope. I'd then throw the other end over a higher branch
      > and tie it to the trunk. This was tedious when I had to refill the
      > bag over and over to replace our cooking water. This method was
      > easier with two people but had been performed the first time by
      > myself. I welcomed the offer for help the next time. The bag and
      > clasp held up for the most part. On one occasion there was a small
      > protrusion of bark on the branch it was hanging from that triggered
      > the clasp and created a large splash. I refilled the bag and was
      > my way filtering again.
      > The Current River is spring fed and we grabbed water from the
      > cleanest sources possible. There were times I stopped and had to
      > water from stationary parts of the river. The filter performed
      > consistently with all types of water, the well water at the
      > outfitter, the flowing spring water, and the stationary pool
      > Every time I was finished filtering I rinsed the inside of the bag
      > out to rid it of debris. Filling the bag was easy but did require
      > getting into the water to do so. If faced with having to stay dry
      > fill the filter's bag, I'd use a large ladle or pot to fill from
      > shallow shore. I hope to test a situation like this for my long
      > term report.
      > Use was a little more involved for our trip to Lake Kabetogama.
      > filling and hanging was an equally challenging situation. What
      > proved more challenging was the attention factor. On this trip we
      > had no 5 gallon (19 L) reservoir. I had to fill the Lexan bottles
      > individually versus the hang and let drain method used in the
      > Ozarks. It takes approximately 2-2 1/2 minutes to fill each
      > The water quality in Voyageurs National Park was a clear, but
      > tinted. It filtered clear and odor free. It didn't seem as
      > refreshing as the water in the Ozarks, but I believe the warm sun
      > increased the temperature of Lake Kabetogama. The Current River,
      > being spring fed, has a cooler year round temperature. Other than
      > its refreshing qualities the temperature of the water had no
      > on the filter's performance.
      > A couple of lessons learned. I learned to figure out the place
      > hanging the filter before filling it. I got a good workout the
      > few times as the bag is heavy when full. Also it is easier to
      > attach the small hose to the bottom of the filter before filling
      > It proves harder to attach the hose when water is coming out.
      > Finally, I found that the temperature increases when the bag is in
      > the direct sun. Finding shade to hang it in rectified this
      > SUMMARY
      > The trips were definitely an ideal way to test the filter. The
      > filter performed well yet required some adaptation as our
      > surroundings change. I am pleased with the quality of water that
      > produces with different water clarities and odors.
      > I will be bringing the filter on a few dayhikes and mountain biking
      > trips to state parks in the Illinois and Wisconsin areas. I hope
      > try filtering some really murky water taken from some shallow areas
      > to test its abilities further.
      > This concludes my field report. My long term report will be
      > in December. Check back for more information.
      > Park (MCCD)">>
      > The Katadyn Camp filter has tagged along on a few day hikes in
      > Glacial Park part of the McHenry County Conservation District. I
      > usually just pack water on a day hike but I wanted to test the
      > ability to filter different water sources, so I flung it in my day
      > pack and hit the trail. Glacial Park is a glacial formed park
      > with hills and grasslands with some patches of forested acres. The
      > trails wind across the Nippersink Creek, whose headwaters stem from
      > man made lake. The hikes took place on a cool evening with
      > temperatures at approximately 65 degrees F (18 C) and on a brisk
      > morning with temperatures around 50 degrees F (10 C).
      > The filter was also used in the Harrison-Benwell conservation
      > also part of the MCCD. I chose this location to test the filter
      > because the 3.5 mile loop crosses a swampy area. The trail is a
      > groomed trail through a forest consisting of maple, oak, black
      > walnut, and boxelder trees. The terrain is flat and sometimes
      > <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 2" IMAGE CAPTION = "filtering
      > the Nippersink's finest">>
      > The filter has performed exceptionally with all it's been asked to
      > do. The Camp filter has withstood the 80 or so gallons (303
      > of clear, cool water in the Current River, approximately 10 gallons
      > (38 liters) of Lake Kabetogama's finest, and another 10 gallons (38
      > liters) of water from various sources. The filter has taken out
      > floating particles of the Nippersink and left the filtered water
      > clean and clear. When asked to perform against the murky wetland
      > water in the Harrison-Benwell Recreation area it stepped up to the
      > plate. With the swamp water, the filter produced a clean product
      > that had a slight odor. The filtered water did taste fine and
      > drinking it I never felt the effects of any "beaver fever" or
      > parasites.
      > The filter has also had a consistent rate of approximately 3
      > per liter (34 fl oz) of water. The exception of this has been when
      > filtering the swamp water. It took almost five minutes to filter a
      > liter (34 fl oz) Nalgene bottle full of water. I believe this was
      > due to the floating algae bloom that was scooped into the filter's
      > bag.
      > I used a small Gatorade bottle to fill the bag with the swamp
      > water. Until now I have entered the water source to fill the
      > filter's bag. I wanted to test how this method would differ. I
      > no trouble filling the filter's bag with the extra container but I
      > did have to lug an empty bottle around. Because it has come in
      > contact with the tainted swamp water, the empty Gatorade bottle
      > although light, is a useless bulk that would need to be carried to
      > fill the filter this way.
      > The swamp water clogged the filter with its muck and algae.
      > Although it still did the job it was a more time consuming task to
      > clean. I rinsed the filter out thoroughly and then filled it full
      > water and dumped two caps full of bleach ion the filled bladder. I
      > then just rolled the top and hung it on a post on my deck to drain.
      > The shutoff valve does an excellent job of keeping the water from
      > flowing in the tube. Although it was initially a concern of mine,
      > the simple design of the valve not only performs well it serves
      > another function. While filtering water in Glacial Park, I had a
      > lack of nearby trees. After deciding to hold the filter while it
      > filtering instead of hauling water in the filter about 200 yards
      > m) to a tree, I used the valve to clip the hose in a fixed position
      > on the Nalgene bottle. <<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "IMAGE 3"
      > CAPTION = "another use for the shut-off valve">>
      > SUMMARY
      > POSITIVES: I am overall pleased with the performance of the filter.
      > 1. It is the absolute perfect filter for our annual canoe trip
      > down the Current River and it worked great for the four of us
      > trekking Lake Kabetogama's Islands.
      > 2. I am impressed with its filtered product. The filter has
      > bested even the funkiest of water qualities.
      > 3. The weight of the filter not much more than the filter
      > itself.
      > 4. The simple design is easy to use.
      > 5. I like the fact that I can fill the filter and let it drain
      > clean water in my container
      > NEGATIVES:
      > 1. Filling the bag is a slight inconvenience. It is extremely
      > easier to fill the bag by getting wet, however that method could
      > dangerous in cooler temperatures. Filling it by bringing a separate
      > container poses a different annoyance. I brought the extra
      > bottle specifically to test this method but was hampered with
      > carrying around the useless bulk of an empty contaminated bottle
      > of bacteria.
      > 2. Holding the bag to filter it can be tiring; only a problem if
      > trees are around to hang it on.
      > 3. The filter isn't very packable. There is no protection from
      > crushing the filter and no case or sack that comes with it. I
      > haven't found a container or sack I like to store the filter yet.
      > I will definitely bring the filter with on any trips with more
      > two participants that can all benefit from the volume of water the
      > bladder can handle. In solo or coupled outings I'd weigh my
      > options. I will continue to use the filter and am glad it's in my
      > arsenal. It especially comes in handy for high volume needs. I
      > really appreciated the filter when stopping to cook. I filtered
      > water to drink, cook and dish duty all in one filling.
      > Thank you to BGT and Katadyn for allowing me to test the filter.
      > Mike J. Daurio Jr.
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