REPOST OR Snowline Mitts - Field Report - Ed Morse
- REPOST OR Snowline Mitts - Ed Morse
ATTN: Thomas Vickers,
Here is my next attempt. I appreciate your patience in pushing me to
do the best possible.
The HTML is in the TESTS folder and should be found at one of the
Following is just the Field Report text, as you asked. The only EDIT
you had for me was an oversight and I got that fixed. The TITLE line
I changed as per instructions from Shane.
I changed most of the Edits and comments you had. I could not see a
way to add the dates in the other places you suggested and I don't
think they are needed.
I could be convinced.
<a name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>
FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
During the Field Test period I have worn the Snowline Mitts for trail
work, hiking, XC skiing and snowshoeing. The weather has varied from
cool and rainy to snowy to cold and very windy. We finally got enough
snow for good skiing and snowshoeing, though still less than normal.
Generally I was out about every other day just to enjoy winter. When
doing trail work the temperature was generally between 30 F (-1 C)
and 45 F (7 C). When I was hiking the temperature was generally right
around freezing (32 F or 0 C). When I was skiing or snowshoeing the
temperature was mostly between 8 F (-13 C) and 28 F (-2 C)
I've used the Mitts in the Sleeping Bear National Lakeshore, which is
along the shore of Lake Michigan about 30 miles (48 km) west of
Traverse City, Michigan. I have used the Mitts in the Manistee
National Forest, which is about 45 miles (72 km) southwest of
Traverse City, Michigan and extends south about 120 miles (190 km). I
have also worn the Mitts frequently in the Pere Marquette State
Forest, which is south, east and northeast of Traverse City.
Elevations ranged from about 600 feet (183 m) along the Lake Michigan
shore line up to about 1500 feet (457 m) in parts of the Pere
Marquette State Forest further inland.
PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
The Snowline Mitts have performed very well during all my outings for
the last two months. The waterproof fleece lined Mitts kept my hands
warm and dry during late December and early January. When it got
colder in late January, I first tried fleece gloves inside the Mitts.
Then I changed to fleece mittens under the Mitts. This works better
for me. After I was barehanded for a few minutes my hands got warm
quicker by curling my fingers together inside the mittens. When the
snow finally got deep enough for skiing and snowshoeing I learned to
keep the top drawstring tight on the Mitts. This kept the snow out of
the mitts and away from my wrists and hands when I managed to fall.
I also learned to turn the Mitts inside out when I got back to the
truck so they could dry. At the end of a day the inside fleece was
almost always wet from sweat. It doesn't usually take long for the
Mitts to dry, when turned inside out. If I turn them inside out as
soon as I get in the truck they are usually dry before I get home.
I have used the Mitts several times to sit on. This works much better
when sitting on a log than it does in deep snow. Following are a few
examples of what my activities with the Mitts and how they have
worked for me. Note, I carry a digital thermometer so I know the
I frequently use both my GPS and digital camera when hiking,
snowshoeing or skiing. The control buttons on both items seem to be
made for very small fingers. I have to be bare handed and careful
when I use any of the menu functions.
In late December 2006, I hiked on the North Country Trail in the
Manistee National Forest doing trail cleanup. Weather was partly
cloudy and windy. It was 35 F (2 C) when I started and got up to 44 F
(7 C). I wore the Mitts to keep my hands warm and dry while moving
branches off the trail. I only walked about 4 miles (6 km), but
needed 6 hours cutting and moving branches off the trail. All the
branches were wet and many were still snow covered. My hands stayed
warm and dry.
In early January 2007, I went for a hike in the Sleeping Bear Dunes.
The temperature was about 29 F (-2 C) all the time I was out that
day. There was only a light dusting of snow. The sun was bright when
I started but heavy clouds soon moved in off the lake. Attached to
the pack shoulder straps was a Garmin 60C GPS, a compass/digital
thermometer and a camera. After about the first 10 minutes my hands
were warm except when I took the Mitts off, which was necessary every
time I used the GPS. The buttons on the GPS are too small to use when
wearing gloves or mittens. I have to be bare handed to operate the
buttons. The Mitts worked great using the hiking poles, the Mitts
are flexible enough I can work them into the wrist straps for good
control. There was no problem checking the compass and thermometer
wearing the Mitts.
When I decided to start back, I used the GPS to get a bearing and
distance to the truck. I got back to the truck at 5:10 PM, before
sundown but already getting dark. I was frequently using the GPS for
directions and other information. I used the Mitts to sit on twice
when I stopped to rest, drink and check the GPS for direction. When I
wear the Mitts this is less fuss than carrying a pad to sit on. It
generally takes about 10 minutes for my hands to get warm again after
having the Mitts off. This was a comparatively short hike of only
about 7 miles (11 km).
In late January 2007, I went skiing at Sand Lakes Quiet Area, in the
Pere Marquette State Forest. The temperature was 9 F (-13 C) when I
started. I wore the Mitts over fleece mittens. My hands were cold for
about the first 15 minutes. Then the hills started and I got warm all
over. I stopped to take pictures three times, each time I had to take
off the Mitts to use the camera with very small buttons, my hands got
cold and it took about 10 minutes to get warm again.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Skiing at Sand lakes">>
Skiing at Sand Lake
It was up to 17 F (-8 C) at that time. The rest of the way I had to
break my own trail, with 2 more stops for pictures. When I got back
to the parking area the temperature was down to 12 F (-11 C). Except
when I stopped for pictures with the Mitts off and the few minutes
getting warm again, my hands were warm and comfortable, though not
dry. When I took the Mitts off back at the truck both the inside
mittens and the inside fleece lining was very wet. Turned inside out,
they were dry before I got back home.
In late January 2007, I went skiing at Muncie Lakes, in the Pere
Marquette State Forest. This trip I used wide Trak Bushwhacker skis
and went mostly off trail. The temperature was 24 F (-4 C) when I
started and got up to 28 F (-2 C) by the time I quit. I took a few
pictures using a Nikon Coolpix L3 and my new Gorilla Pod tripod,
wrapped on a tree branch and braced on the tree trunk. When I stopped
for lunch I walked around a lot getting the camera set up. I have to
use bare hands to set up the camera and tripod. The tripod is 6" (15
cm) long with flexible legs to wrap around any available support. The
menu buttons on the camera to set the timer are so small I often push
the wrong one with bare hands.
The snow had softened and packed on the bottom of the boots and in
the bindings when I tried to put the skis back on. It was bare hands
and pocket knife work to get all the packed snow cleaned out of boots
and bindings. The pocket knife I carry is a Leatherman Micra, much
too small to use with any type of hand covering. I have "step in"
bindings with a small bar on the boot to fit into the bindings. All
packed or frozen snow in either part must be thoroughly removed.
The Mitts kept my hands warm and worked well to sit on over a wet log
when I stopped for lunch and pictures.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Mitts on log, ready for
lunch">> mitts on a log, ready for lunch
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Sitting on Mitts on log">>
eating lunch, sitting on the Mitts
In early February 2007, I went skiing at Sand Lakes, in the Pere
Marquette State Forest. There was about 5" (13 cm) of new snow on
older tracks. The Temperature stayed at 24 F (-4 C ) until I quit at
6 PM (almost too dark to see the trail). It was snowing fairly hard
the last 2 hours. I wore the Mitts over fleece mittens. I managed to
take one picture with the camera mounted on the Gorilla Pod wrapped
around branches of a small pine. My hands got cold playing around
with the camera and timer.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Almost got in place">>
Everything functioned well. The fleece mittens inside the Snowline
Mitts were very warm but both Mitts and added mitten liners were wet
from sweat when I got back to the truck. It is necessary to remove
the fleece mittens and turn the Snowlines inside out when I am
finished for the day. Otherwise they will take several days to dry,
if not turned inside out.
In mid February 2007, I went skiing on the North Country Trail in
the Manistee National Forest. This trip I was exploring a potential
trail reroute and learning to use the track feature of the Garmin
60C. I wore the Snowline Mitts over fleece gloves, and soon took off
the fleece gloves. The temperature got up above 44 F (7 C) with
bright sunlight, when in the open. I was much too warm, but I kept
on the Mitts in case I fell. I did not want snow on my hands and
I skied 5 miles (8 km) of existing and proposed trails in 5 hours and
30 minutes. Most of the distance was unbroken trail with soft wet
snow. About one mile (1.6 km) was old snowshoe tracks 3 of us had
left several days earlier doing preliminary exploration. The Snowline
Mitts kept my hands warm even though I was up to my elbows in snow a
few times when I fell. I have learned to keep the upper cord of the
Mitts tight to keep the snow out. I stopped twice for pictures and
several times to use the GPS.
<<IMAGE GOES HERE. ALT TEXT = "Skiing on the NCT">>
Skiing on the NCT
Again I don't have the Mitts on because the camera self timer doesn't
allow that much time. I did put them on as soon as I had the camera
I am very happy with the Snowline Mitts. The long gauntlet style
wrists add extra warmth, with the top pulltab tightened snow can not
get in to make my hands and wrists cold. I like the flexibility to
wear, or not wear, other mittens inside the Snowline Mitts. This
allows use of the Mitts in a much wider range of temperatures and
I cannot put on snowshoes or take them off with the Mitts on, since I
can't loosen or adjust the bindings with the Mitts on. I can put on
and take off skis with the Mitts on unless I get snow packed in the
ski bindings. It is just a little difficult to get the Mitts into the
ski pole wrist loops but the added control is worth the effort. As
two of the pictures show, I usually leave the Mitts in the pole wrist
straps when I need to do something barehanded.
The best thing about the Mitts is that they are truly waterproof.
They don't get wet from outside but the fleece lining nearly always
gets very wet from my sweaty hands. Even wet and sweaty my hands stay
warm down to about 25 F (-4 C). Below that I need to add fleece
mittens inside to be comfortable. Fortunately I can turn them inside
out and they get dry fairly soon.
On the other hand, the worst thing about the Mitts is that they
really are waterproof. Have I stated often enough that I must turn
the Mitts inside out when I quit for the day? When I forgot to do
this early in the testing the Mitts were still wet inside the next
I have worn a variety of gloves and mittens for winter activities in
past years. My hands were frequently cold and often wet. I prefer my
hands to be warm and sweaty wet rather than cold and wet. I may well
be a permanent convert to the Snowline Mitts.
I would like to thank BGT and OR Gear for giving me the opportunity
to test the Snowline Mitts.
This concludes my Field Report. The Long Term Report will be added in
about two months.
This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
Copyright 2007. All rights reserved.
- Thanks TV,
It will be done within a few hours. You were the patient and helpful one.
If there a folder to upload to or is it obvious?
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] On Behalf Of redroachhome
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:04 PM
Subject: [backpackgeartesters] Edited: REPOST OR Snowline Mitts - Field
Report - Ed Morse
Ed, I am going to go ahead and tell you to update and upload.
Thank you for being so helpful and patient.
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