Re: The daughter of Agamemnon
- You can try telling people you live in Alta Vermont ;-)
(The New England Yankee accent might be tough, though.)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Marie-Noëlle Augendre
> I guess this apply also to "testing in Canada by a Canadian-to-
> On 10/31/05, Andy Mytys <amytys@h...> wrote:
> > ....
> > - Women only
> > - U.S. Testers Only!!!
> > - Newbie rule APPLIES
> Wilderness Addict
- --- In email@example.com, Lynne Durham
> I'm curious how you'll decide if "temps are cold enough to give
> this bag a workout." Checking average winter lows, even Denali's
> *average* winter low is above -15F (-26C). Yeah, records are much
> lower...but how would we decide something like this?
It all depends on how one words the description of test/field
conditions. Those US temp ratings are based on no wind, and
something like 2 inches of pad underneath. Some testers sleep warm,
others cold. Then there's the number of consecutive days in the
field, as each day out the bag may lose loft due to the down getting
moisture from the body into it. What about folks sleeping in snow
caves? That introduces a lot of moisture to the situation as well.
SD also encourages customers to sleep outside the tent... well, that
exposure might knock that effective temp rating back a bit.
And remember, "average" low is just that... AVERAGE. In Northern
Michigan, for example, an "average low" in Jan/Feb might be 10 F.
Check the daily logs, and you'll find some days where the daily low
hit -15 F, and others where it was 15-20 F for a few days. There's
no way I'd head out on the High Country Pathway in Jan/Feb w/o being
prepared to weather temps that were harsher than even -20 F. (I'm
using Michigan examples here because both Lynne and I are from MI).
Moving into Canada, temps regularly hit -40 F (talk to Gail about
this one... brrrrrrrrrrrrr).
I'm not going to give you a formula here. Suffice it to say that I
need three testers, and I know enough about winter camping to be able
to read a detailed set of field conditions and determine if it's
going to be a good match for the product or not. It's up to the
tester to provide those field conditions though. You'd be surprised
how many apps just say something general like "below freezing"... w/o
supporting field conditions, an application isn't seriously
I'll compare the field conditions and other relavent information
given in each application, and pick the best three... just like