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75144Re: LTR - NEMO Obi 2P Tent - Andrei Girenkov

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  • agirenkov
    Feb 10, 2013
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      I just caught the fact that the LTR has the wrong date on it. Does anyone know how to update the date in the BGT report writer? I don't see a field for it.

      --- In backpackgeartesters@yahoogroups.com, "agirenkov" wrote:
      >
      > Uploaded version can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/atp3sa2
      > Text only version is below.
      >
      > Please note that in addition to the LTR section, I went back and edited the FR section to reflect comments that I received from Ray and other BGT staff. Specifically I rephrased my criticism of the cramped space to acknowledge that two people can indeed fit, although with some difficulty. Furthermore, I originally found the tent very cold and planned to do the LTR in March when it got warmer. Because I did the LTR in January (to meet the deadline as well as to see how it performs in the winter), I removed all statements about my March plans from the FR.
      >
      > Thank you Kathy, Ray, Richard, and Mike for helping me get this across the finish line.
      >
      >
      > NEMO OBI 2P TENT
      > TEST SERIES BY ANDREI GIRENKOV
      > LTR
      > February 10, 2013
      >
      > TESTER INFORMATION
      >
      > NAME: Andrei Girenkov
      > EMAIL: agirenkov[AT]yahoo[DOT]com
      > AGE: 31
      > LOCATION: New York, New York, USA
      > GENDER: M
      > HEIGHT: 5' 10" (1.78 m)
      > WEIGHT: 150 lb (68.00 kg)
      >
      > I have been backpacking for 6 years, mostly 3-season weekend trips in the Adirondacks, and other parks in the Northeastern
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      > US. Additionally, I try to take at least one 5-7 day trip each summer to other destinations in Canada, Western United
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      > States and Central America. I use lightweight gear on a budget. My multi-day pack weight is around 20-25 lb (9-11kg). I
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      > enjoy sleeping comfortably and cooking a hot meal at night
      >
      >
      > INITIAL REPORT
      >
      > PRODUCT INFORMATION & SPECIFICATIONS
      >
      > Manufacturer: NEMO Equipment Inc.
      > Year of Manufacture: 2012
      > Manufacturer's Website: <

      > "http://www.nemoequipment.com/">>
      > MSRP: Tent: $389.95, Footprint: $49.95
      >
      > Listed Weight:
      > Minimum tent weight (just tent body, fly, poles): 3 lb 0 oz (1360 g)
      > Packed weight (everything included in the package): 3 lb 10 oz (1644 g)
      > Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
      >
      > < >
      >
      > Measured Weight:
      > Tent realistically packed (body, fly, poles, guy lines, stakes, repair kit, stuff sacks): 3 lb 6.6 oz (1605 g)
      > Footprint: 8.6 oz (245 g)
      >
      > Listed Interior Height: 40 in (102 cm)
      > Listed Floor Dimensions 84 x 50 in (213 x 127 cm)
      > Verified Accurate
      >
      > Listed Area: 27 sq ft (2.5 sq m)
      > Listed Vestibules Area: 18 sq ft (1.7 sq m)
      > Listed Packed Size: 7.5 in length x 6 in diameter (19 x 15 cm)
      > Measured Packed Size (after opening and repacking): 10.5 x 6.5 in (27 x 16.5 cm)
      >
      > Fly / Vestibule Fabric: 20D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
      > Floor Fabric: 30D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
      > Footprint Fabric: 70D Polyurethane Treated Nylon
      >
      > Manufacturer's Description:
      >
      > NEMO bills the Obi tent as a lightweight, carefully designed, "finely tuned instruments." The company states that every
      >
      > piece of material utilized serves for a purpose, and not an extra ounce of weight was used to accomplish this task.
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      >
      >
      > INITIAL IMPRESSIONS
      >
      > The package included 3 stuff sacks which contained the main NEMO Obi 2P Tent (hereafter called Obi 2P or simply the tent),
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      > the poles, and a footprint.
      >
      > The first thing that struck me was the small size of the tent itself. As you can see from the photograph, the initial size
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      > of the compressed tent is about as long as a men's size 10 US (44 EU) shoe and about twice as wide. The tent poles came
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      > in an elongated stuff sack that physically clips to the tent's compression sack.
      >
      > The manufacturer was kind enough to include a footprint as well in a separate mesh bag. This accessory normally retails
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      > for an additional $50. It weighs in at a hefty 8.6 oz (245 g) - a significant portion of the overall weight given the
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      > manufacturer's stated goal of not wasting a single ounce.
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      >
      > TRYING IT OUT
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      > < >
      > The Obi 2P uses a pole and hub system. The poles now are GREEN anodized DAC Featherlite NSL. DAC describes this as a new
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      > process for anodizing poles that minimizes the use of toxic chemicals. The center pole extends to a hub at each end. Two
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      > poles extend from each hub to the corners of the tent, forming an elongated X.
      >
      > The poles end in a small metal ball which goes into a socket at each corner of the tent. Once the poles are erected, the
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      > tent clips to them with plastic twist clips. The twist makes it very easy to clip on, and the shape forces the pole into
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      > the deepest part of the hook so they don't slide down. Here is a photo of the initial tent setup and a closeup of a pole
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      > hub with an attached twist clip.
      >
      >
      > At each corner of the tent is a mechanism called a "Jake's Foot". It is designed to allow the poles, fly and footprint to
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      > quickly and securely attach to the tent. This is quite a handy mechanism once you know how to use it, however the
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      > instructions it comes with are limited to 4 pictures without any words, akin to IKEA assembly instructions. After about 10
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      > minutes of fumbling about with the fly and the foot print I had to watch a video online to see how to use it.
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      > The Jake's foot without any attachments is pictured below. The poles snap into the ball socket in the middle of the
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      > Jake's foot. Then the fly snaps into place with the little hook facing down on the outermost cross member of the Jake's
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      > foot. Then the footprint snaps in with the hook facing up on the innermost cross member.
      >
      > < > <

      > HERE. ALT TEXT = "Empty Jake's Foot" IMAGE CAPTION = "Empty Jake's Foot">>
      >
      > The floor of the Obi 2P is made of lightweight 30D Polyurethane (PU) nylon. An optional 70D PU nylon footprint can be
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      > attached below. The walls are ultra lightweight 20D PU nylon for the first half up from the floor and then a switch to a
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      > No-See-Um polyester mesh. There are two wide D-shaped doors. NEMO provides a loop and toggle to secure each door so it
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      > doesn't flap in the breeze when open. There is a single very small storage pocket behind one of the doors.
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      > The green rain fly is made of the same ultral ightweight 20D PU nylon as the walls. As mentioned above, it snaps to the
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      > tent via a Jake's Foot in each corner. The fly has two vestibules with D-shaped doors and storm flaps over the zippers.
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      > The Vestibules are very roomy, which I believe will come in very handy given the tight dimensions of this tent. The fly
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      > does not extend all the way to the ground on all sides. On the head end of the tent the fly stops half way down the walls,
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      > covering only the mesh portion. This allows the tent to ventilate. There are no other vents on the fly itself.
      >
      > < >
      >
      > SUMMARY
      >
      > NEMO set out to make a compact, lightweight and comfortable two-person tent, in which every detail serves a purpose. The
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      > initial impression is that they succeeded at least on the first two counts, particularly on packed size. The tent shaves a
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      > pound of weight and about 50% of packed size from my current ultra light tent that was state of the art when I bought it 6
      >
      > years ago. The instructions for the new Jake's Foot system are not obvious at first glance. However setup became very
      >
      > simple and quick once I looked at an instructional video online. The jury is still out on the comfort of this tent. I
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      > hope to answer that question in the Field and Long Term Reports.
      >
      >
      >
      > <a rel="nofollow" name="FRPT">FIELD REPORT</a>
      >
      > FIELD LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
      >
      > I took the NEMO Obi 2P Tent out on three weekend trips in late September and early October in upstate New York. One trip
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      > was to the Sawtooth Ridge in the Adirondack Mountains, the second to Minnewaska State Oark, and the third to the Catskill
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      > Mountains. The weather was mild and sunny on all three trips. Daytime temperatures were around 50 F (10 C). The
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      > temperature dropped below freezing on a single night during my October trip.
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      > In order to minimize the weight of the tent, NEMO designers have eliminated material or substituted a lightweight
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      > alternative wherever possible. Case in point, more than half of the body of the tent is made from a mesh material. While
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      > this provides for great ventilation, and a beautiful view of the stars on a clear night, it also limits the temperature
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      > range when the tent can be used. I will take the tent out on a winter trip to confirm this observation.
      >
      > PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
      >
      > < >Let me start off by saying that for the weather conditions of my field test, the tent was just about perfect. It
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      > was extremely light and compact and very well ventilated. I carried it without a rainfly because of the fair weather.
      >
      > Sleeping in it felt very open - as if I was lying without a tent at all. The mesh disappeared into the night sky, and the
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      > moon and stars were my roof! This setup worked out very well for all but my last night outside, when the temperature
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      > dipped below freezing. Without a fly, it was very cold, even with a 20 F (-7 C) rated sleeping bag.
      >
      > One aspect of this tent that users should be aware of is its compact interior space. This version of the Obi is advertised
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      > as a two person tent. Two pads will fit into the tent, however you will get to know your tent mate very closely! Here is
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      > an overhead view of my regular-sized (20 in or 51 cm wide) Therm-a-Rest Neo Air which is centered inside the tent. When I
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      > sleep on my back, I occupy the entire width of the pad. I could just fit two of them inside the tent side by side, and
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      > sleeping on either one required touching the wall of the tent with my body. Without a fly this was not an issue. In a
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      > future test I will try such an arrangement with the fly on to see if condensation becomes an issue. With two people inside
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      > this tent there is no room for any personal items other than what will fit under your pillow or inside the single pocket.
      >
      > The good news is that this tent is light enough to be carried on a solo trip. For a single sleeper, it felt like my own
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      > personal Taj Mahal. There was a lot of room on both sides of my sleeping bag for a flashlight, book, clothes and other
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      > personal items as well as plenty of headroom above me. On these trips I left my pack and shoes unprotected outside
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      > overnight. In my next test I would like to check if there is enough space in the vestibule to keep my pack, or if I have
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      > to sacrifice more internal space.
      >
      > < ><

      > HERE. ALT TEXT = "Inside View" IMAGE CAPTION = "A solo Taj Mahal!">>
      >
      > SUMMARY
      >
      > This is a very light tent. This advantage is enhanced even further by the ability to leave the rain fly at home and save
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      > another pound or so. In this configuration, there is great ventilation and no condensation whatsoever. Additionally, all
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      > the materials and construction are topnotch. There are no loose threads or seams, and the footprint, tent, and fly line up
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      > perfectly with each other for quick and easy assembly.
      >
      > I do have a concern about the interior room if used as a two-person tent. It is spacious for one person, but becomes
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      > cramped if two people are sleeping inside. Additionally I would like to see whether this tent can be used in the winter
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      > with the fly pitched.
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      >
      >
      > LONG-TERM REPORT
      >
      > LONG-TERM TEST LOCATIONS AND CONDITIONS
      >
      > In the fall, I used the Obi as a solo tent, and pitched it without a fly. My field review left several questions
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      > unanswered. During my subsequent trips I wanted to find out how the tent will perform with a fly in cold weather, whether
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      > condensation is a problem, and how comfortable it is for two person use. This long term review answers those questions.
      >
      > I carried the tent with me on a two night snowshoe trip to the Rockingham Recreational Trail in New Hampshire in January.
      >
      > The round trip took me across approximately 52 mi (84 km) of 3 ft (91 cm) of packed snow. This is a rather flat trail that
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      > follows an abandoned railroad line. The elevation ranges from 250 to 400 ft (76 to 122 m) above sea level. The weather
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      > was clear to cloudy. Temperature ranged from 4 to 17 F (-15 to -8 C).
      >
      > PERFORMANCE IN THE FIELD
      >
      > For this trip I was accompanied by a hiking buddy. We pitched the tent with a fly and both slept in it. We used foam
      >
      > pads, with a 4 season inflatable sleeping pad on top, and both slept in 0 F (-18 C) sleeping bags as well as in some winter
      >
      > clothing. We left our backpacks, boots, and snowshoes in the vestibule overnight.
      >
      > The tent provided adequate wind protection, and we did not experience any snow drifting into the tent under the fly.
      >
      > Although the temperatures were quite low, we had a very warm sleeping setup as you can see above. Neither one of us woke
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      > up from cold temperature in the middle of the night.
      >
      > There was a fair amount of condensation in the form of frost that formed on the mesh overnight. This is typical of winter
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      > camping because the cold temperature cause exhaled moisture to freeze almost immediately. I cannot blame the tent in this
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      > case.
      >
      > The biggest challenge for us was fitting all the winter sleeping gear into the tent, as well as finding room for snowshoes
      >
      > and backpacks in the vestibule. The cramped two person sleeping conditions I described in the field review are only
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      > exacerbated by the need to carry bulkier winter gear.
      >
      > SUMMARY
      >
      > The NEMO Obi 2P is the lightest, most compact two person tent that I have personally had the pleasure of using. The setup
      >
      > is a breeze once you learn how to do it, and the packed size and weight leave very little to be desired. The tent is very
      >
      > well constructed and ventilated. Its only weak spot is the limited interior room. I would not hesitate to recommend it as
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      > a one or two person three season tent. However I would not use it as a two person tent in the winter given the extra space
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      > needed to accommodate winter gear.
      >
      > Pros:
      > Lightweight.
      > Compact.
      > Two nice size vestibules.
      > Transparent mesh allows for great view of sky at night.
      > Easy to set up.
      > Very spacious for a single person.
      >
      > Cons:
      > Cramped for two people.
      > Only one interior pocket.
      >
      >
      >
      > This report was created with the BGT Report Generator.
      > Copyright 2013. All rights reserved.
      >
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