Re: conductor chided for performing Wagner in "Israel"
>I don't have the exact reference now but many years
>ago I read a book, I think by lwft-wing writer Edgar
>Snow, from the World War II years about the Soviet
>Union and its battle against the fascist hordes.
>At one point I was struck by the author referring to
>concerts by the Moscow Symphony, because he casually
>mentioned that some works of Richard Wagner were among
>the things performed. This, mind you, was in the
>Soviet Union while the Nazis were occupying part of
>that country and killing millions of Soviet citizens.
>Soviet musicians and the Soviet cultural establishment
>were not so chauvinist as to prohibit music by German,
>in fact German nationalist, composers even at the
>height of the Nazi invasion.
>The Jews in occupied Palestine clearly are products of
>a totally different, totally chauvinist mindset.
Fascinating! Do you know if Hitler ever banned
Tchiakowsky or other non-Jewish Russian composers?
>The Nazis banned or anyway didn't play any JewishDear Eric,
>composers like Mendelssohn or Offenbach (I think) and
>of course criticized Jazz as being "Jewish and Negro"
>but then, rather hypocritically, the Nazis put
>together a jazz band to play for foreign consumption
>at the behest of Goebbels.
Was that the same band that did parodies of existing
American jazz songs for propaganda broadcasts, or
am I thinking of something else?
>I don't know if the Nazis banned Russian or otherYes, I definitely noticed that on the tape of Chinese
>music, though I have read that Nazi soldiers trashed
>the house museum of Pyotr Il'yich Chaikovsky (usually
>spelled Tchaikovsky as if we were French) in the town
>of Klin, west of Moscow.
>In general, Hitler seems to have had no respect for
>Russian culture whatsoever inspite of the fact that,
>in my opinion at least, Russia's musical heritage and
>that of Germany's are the absolute greatest in Europe
>(and personally I prefer the Russian, but that's a
>matter of taste.)
>Back in the 1950s all Chinese musicians seem to have
>studied in the Soviet Union, where they learned
>orchestration with the absolute best teachers in the
>world. As a result, the old Chinese marching and
>patriotic music of the 1950s, 1960s and early 1970s
>shows strong Russian influence, even though it is
>mainly Chinese sounding, but in the orchestration and
>arrangement it is strongly Russian influenced.
military music you sent me a couple years ago (I
still get a lot of enjoyment out of listening to it;
>More recently, unfortunately, the Chinese have sentI haven't heard any Chinese rock and roll yet, though
>students to the west (or maybe the Russians have
>changed) and the result is that Chinese music is
>coming more under the influence of cheap and
>degenerate trends like rock and roll and therefore is
>much less stirring.
what I have heard of modern Chinese music sounds
rather like some of our easy-listening pop.
>Russians influenced other musical schools as well.I recently read an account by a Russian on the internet
>The famous Italian composer Respighi who wrote the
>Pines of Rome and Appian Way that are well known
>orchestral pieces studied in Russia before the
>revolution. So although he wrote Italian national
>music while living in Fascist Italy in the 1920s, his
>powerful orchestral style too shows strong Russian
>But it must also be said that in their day the
>Russians were influenced by German music too. Richard
>Wagner's operas based on Teutonic mythology were
>really very innovative in their time - both musically
>and also conceptually - and sparked a wave of
>orchestral and operatic works by Russian and Czech
>composers in the late 19th century as they drew on
>folktales and myths of the Slavic peoples and on folk
>themes to produce stirring works like Mlada, Boris
>Godunov, Prince Igor', P. I. Chaikovsky's and Antonin
>Dvorak's superb symphonies and many, many more.
>Apparently the outstanding musical heritage in Russia
>is now being washed away by American-style cheap pop
>and rock junk that money-grubbing companies in Russia
>are pushing all over the place. But maybe Yura could
>fill us in on this.
that hip-hop music and clothing are becoming popular
in Russia but that the skinheads regularly attack
those indulging in it.
>I would hope that the Russian people can withstandNothing wrong with that, NOTHING AT ALL!
>this poisoned wind of globalism, but it seems to be a
>very difficult battle. Even in the Soviet period
>there was a marked deterioration, I believe, after
>20th Century greats like Sergei Prokof'yev, Dmitry
>Shostakovich, and Aram Khachaturiyan died and left the
>stage to people who increasingly turned out, well
>"modern stuff" which was often atonal and abstract and
>- to me - unattractive, while the variety stage surged
>forward as classical music retreated into atonal,
>technical nonsense that the people could not relate to
>Sorry, but I have a rather Stalinist musical taste.