Re: [azsecularhumanists] Cola giants challenged in Turkey
>There is no comparison. There is no shortage of cola in Turkey or
>now this supports ernies concept
>of letting people charge $4 for
>a gallong of gas or coke.
>sell a product for too much and
>the free market will get people
>who make it and sell it for less
>so they can make a buck.
>as soon as the compitition kicks
>in the $4 gallon price of gas
>will be dropping
elsewhere, and cola is not necessary for getting to work or otherwise
sustaining life. If someone were price-gouging cola, people could
simply switch to tea or water. At the moment there is a shortage of
petrol in Phoenix, and the competition is minimal. That is why
rationing is needed, not price-gouging.
- Dear Eric,
Many thanks for this vivid description of Arab soft
drinks of the 1970s. They do sound good.
>When I was in Saudi Arabia and Syria in the mid-1970s
>(when things were less degraded than now) the
>situation was that CocaCola had been kicked out of all
>Arab countries for opening a facility in occupied
>Palestine. That violated the embargo so all the Arab
>countries where Coke was, kicked them out. (Those
>were the days!)
>In Saudi Arabia the CocaCola bottlers left their plant
>behind and an enterprising Saudi named S. M. Kaaki
>bought the place and started producing "Kaaki Cola"
>which was available as far as I knew throughout the
>Kingdom - anyway wherever I went it was there, so it
>was not a niche market. To me it tasted just like
>Coke, but then I can't tell the difference between
>Coke and Pepsi either.
>At that time, however, Pepsi had not opened any
>facilities in occupied Palestine so their drink was
>readily available. Of course other Pepsi drinks were
>also available in Saudia too as well as some western
>orange and other soda drinks that might or might not
>be Pepsi products; I don't know.
>I don't know if Coke ever was allowed into Syria, but
>when I was there they had lots of ultra sweet fruit
>flavoured soft drinks -- bright red ("cherry" I
>suppose) and bright yellow ("orange", I guess). It
>was like drinking liquid sugar cane, but it was made
>in Syria. That too served the whole country, not a
>niche market. Since it was not brown, I guess it
>wasn't an "import substitution" for Coke, but it was a
>fizzy soft drink. In Syrian colloquial, soft drinks
>are called "gazzoz" because of the carbonation (gas) I
>I don't know what's gone on since I left. I suspect
>they've been flooded by all sorts of western crap.
>What was nice, however, was that in summer months
>there were lots of little juice shops everywhere both
>in Saudia and in Syria. They had fresh fruits -
>mangoes, bananas, etc., -- and for half a riyal in
>Saudia (about 15 cents) you could get a tall glass
>full of fresh fruit juice with a little crushed ice in
>it. In Syria the price was one Lira (33 cents, then)
>but they gave you the whole blender-full.
>Those prices were comparable to the bottled soft
>drinks. They were not so portable, that is, you had
>to buy them in the juice shops, not at a restaurant or
>coffee house, and since they only only had glasses,
>not paper cups, you had to consume it there. Still it
>was a lot better than soft drinks.
>Then as far as drinks go, in Syria and Turkey too the
>old and traditional summer drink is called Sous in
>Arabic. I don't know what the Turkish word is. Sous
>is licorice, but oddly for a region where they seem
>addicted to sugar, this is unsweetened and quite
>bitter. It's like drinking rootbeer with NO
>sweetening, if you can imagine, and tastes like
>sucking on a root. But after you overcome the initial
>reaction, it is refreshing because it's cold. (And
>sweet things aren't in fact thirst quenching.) I
>actually miss it when I think about it.
>The sous seller wanders around with a large decorated
>brass contraption on his back (containing the drink)
>and he serves the sous in little brass bowels that
>everyone drinks out of. I suppose that's not
>"hygienic" but I was used to such things. As he walks
>around he clangs the little brass bowels together to
>let people know of his coming. I can't remember the
>cost for a drink but it would only be a few cents.