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Re: FW: [AZ] Rh. colemanii

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  • William C. Miller III
    Steve, Thanks, I understand. In the mean time, if I hear back from any of the inquiries that I made, I ll share them with the group. Bill
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 12, 2007

      Thanks, I understand.  In the mean time, if I hear back from any of the inquiries that I made, I'll share them with the group.


      Yeatts, Steve wrote:

      All of these questions will be answered in an ARS article to be published in the future. The “Red Hills Azalea” has been known thru the years as the “May Pink”. Since most of the plants are, in fact, white, we decided to change the name to the geographic area where they are found. The azalea had been most often labeled as R.alabamense thru the years. However, R.colemanii turns out to be a tetraploid, while R.alabamense is a diploid. R.colemanii blooms 3 to 4 weeks later than R.alabamense found in the same areas.


      Steve Yeatts

      Athens, GA


      From: azaleas@yahoogroups .com [mailto:azaleas@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of William C. Miller III
      Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 10:39 AM
      To: azaleas@yahoogroups .com
      Subject: Re: FW: [AZ] Rh. colemanii



      The original question posed by Mark was --- what is R. colemanii?

      Your first comment was somewhat tentative considering your second comment, and I have to confess that I'm confused.  The common name used by Elachee Native Science Center for R. colemanii was Red Hills azalea.  Is the Red Hills azalea also called May Pink, not to be confused with the elepidote rhododendron cultivar named 'May Pink'?  Is it a coincidence that the name is similar to May White (R. eastmanii ) which (note to Mike Creel) is called the Santee Azalea by the USDA for some reason.

      There's got to be a lot more to the story.  Is colemanii red or pink?  If this is a new species, presumably there is a population in the wild somewhere.  How have you determined that it is not a natural hybrid?  Is it fragrant?  Where did the common name Red Hills come from if May Pink azalea is the name attributed to S. D. Coleman? 

      I did see a reference to the May Pink azalea on the Connecticut College Arboretum's (New London, CT) Native Collection Woody Plant Checklist ----
      Rhododendron 'Colman's May Pink' .   They elevate May Pink to cultivar status while misspelling Coleman.  I have an e-mail into their curator.

      Bill Miller
      Bethesda, Maryland

      Yeatts, Steve wrote:


      Good to hear the news is getting out. Ron Miller, of Pensacola, and I are in the process of getting this new species recognized.


      Steve Yeatts

      Athens, GA


      From: azaleas@yahoogroups .com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tadeusz Dauksza
      Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 5:52 PM
      To: azaleas@yahoogroups .com
      Subject: RE: [AZ] Rh. colemanii




       Elachee Native Science Center lists Red Hills Azalea as a "newly" discovered 'Rhododendron colemanii'  ---     Gainesville, Ga.


      Tadeusz- Illinois, drizzly rain will turn to "black' ice tonight.

      "Yeatts, Steve" <syeatts@jacksonemc. com> wrote:


      They are most likely talking about the “May Pink” as S.D. Coleman described it many years ago.

      Steve Yeatts

      Athens, GA

      From: azaleas@yahoogroups .com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mark Wright
      Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:04 PM
      To: azaleas@yahoogroups .com
      Subject: [AZ] Rh. colemanii

      I picked up an azalea today at our local nursery (that predominately carries native material). This one was tagged as being Rh. colemanii (described as light pink and fragrant). The display marker also stated that this plant was native to S Alabama and SW Georgia. Is this a sub species of alabamense? Any info would be greatly appreciated.


      Mark Wright

      Tallahassee, FL

      From: azaleas@yahoogroups .com [mailto:azaleas@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Mike Creel
      Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 12:54 PM
      To: ASA Azaleaphiles
      Subject: [AZ] Pink Canadense?, your October 2006 RareFind visit

      Sally and John in NH:
      I think the normal species color of canadense is a
      lavendar or light purple. But I have heard that only
      Captain Cannon in Nova Scotia grows a true pink form.
      Your canadense photo from Weston nursery is
      outstanding both in terms of the plant's dense
      blooming and the pink color, which may or may not be
      an aberration of the photo or lighting. I would hope
      that a major nursery would select some superior forms
      of the species.

      Do you remember what date yall visited Rare Find in
      New Jersey?

      Mike Creel, SC

      --- sjperk5 <sjperk5@comcast. net> wrote:

      > Mike
      > First although we took all the images in this tour
      > the location
      > being shown are not always correct. Picaas web album
      > does not store
      > this information one an image by image basis so I
      > need to reenter it
      > and I have not done so. Picasa Web Alum stores the
      > image and the
      > image caption.
      > The image of R. canadense was taken at Weston
      > Nurseries. The plant
      > was in a pot. It is the best R. canadense I have
      > ever seen. There
      > must have been 50 of them and this one was by far
      > the best. We had
      > stopped by on the way to places further south so we
      > did not buy the
      > plant plus I am cheap and plus I have never had much
      > luck with R.
      > canadense when in a large container. We do grow R.
      > canadense. Both
      > the "pink" and white forms.
      > John Perkins
      > Salem, NH
      I did not realize that my wife and I
      > > missed seeing you at RareFind Nursery. We were
      > there
      > > on Oct. 21, 2006, I think, the same day I
      > conducted a
      > > workshop at the Henry Foundation Garden in
      > > Philadelphia. What date were yall at Rarefind. I
      > > coordinated the presentation with a visit to our
      > > daughter who lived in Philly then. Usually we
      > don't
      > > travel that far. Hank's Opal azaleas were in
      > bloom
      > > then, beautiful, but odd timing.


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