21647Re: Is it okay to not care for/understand some music?/Lol on Ogun
- Nov 1, 2006--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Brian K" <brian011879@...>
I heard both of those back in the day, but have never owned them. I
think I prefer his work which mixes styles and the humor is more
overt. Here's a discography page for further exploration:
> Thanks for the reply on this. Recommendations do sound like they'd be
> pretty good. Lol must be the musician who actually must have played
> in every context. "Coxhill On Ogun" as Lol mentions in the notes,
> starts with "The Joy of Paranoia" (from '77)and then the '76
> album "Diverse", where he is totally solo on two long tunes: "Diver"
> and "Divers". They actually do seem to be very lyrical and tuneful at
> times themselves, sounding like some great bebop wanting too break
> out of his weaving-like playing, but then falls apart again and I
> admit I've gotten a chuckles out of it.
> The first tune "Diver" begins with some funny
> shreiking/grating/skronking noises that one can't help but get a
> laugh out of it (I mean this in a good way!). I take it as his sense
> of humor at work though.
> There are some good points to it I have to admit, but I also must
> admit I feel maybe that my mind just can't make sense out of it with
> all the randomness. I would consider my attention span at least
> better than average as I've listened to some pretty complex music
> already (not bragging believe me), but this music seems to way over
> my head-very clinical mostly to me. Another thing that doesn't help
> is that this Ogun CD sounds like it may have been recorded almost
> directly from somewhat good, yet a bit scratchy here-and-there vinyl
> copies of the two albums. I'd like too look into his other work that
> you've mentioned, but I personally and honestly just can't recommend
> Lol's Ogun work here as a place too start for others like me just now
> and in the future seeking out his work.
> Sorry for all this length,
> Take Care,
> --- In email@example.com, "palcontented1"
> <palcontented1@> wrote:
> > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Brian K" <brian011879@>
> > wrote:
> > Personally, I find even his freest stuff quite lyrical and tuneful,
> > but Coxhill has a very varied catalog. What you have is basically
> > Joy of Paranoia I think. You may prefer the one that was originally
> > Random Radar, Digswell Duets, half of which is with pianist Veryan
> > Weston and the other with Simon Emerson's electronics. I really like
> > Lol's work on Max Nagl's album of Edward Gorey settings, The Evil
> > Garden (also with Julie Tippetts). Unfortunately much of the
> > stuff that shows his self deprecating wit and variety to best effect
> > is either o/p or has never been reissued. Hardly any of the Nato or
> > Chabada recordings ever made it to cd, and there is some great
> > unlikely material out there. The Melody Four recordings for instance
> > with Beresford and Coe, or The Recedents with Mike Cooper and Roger
> > Turner, present quite a contrast. His early solo Fleas in Custard,
> > the Welfare State lp for which he served as musical director also
> > embody this ease with contrasting material. I have the first of the
> > two Miller/Coxhill's and it's quite pleasant. You should maybe start
> > with Ear of the Beholder which can still be found, I think, is quite
> > varied and gives a good idea of his spirit.
> > I will always remember with fondness his performance with The
> > Recedents in 1990. I don't think he was even planning to play his
> > He had this small assembly of cheap electronic circuitry, and it
> > malfunctioned. Turner and Cooper just kept playing as Lol kvetched
> > them about his gear, got out a suitcase and laboriously packed it
> > away, muttering to himself the entire time. Then he pulled a curved
> > soprano out of its case and played some of the most beautiful
> > expressive lines to be heard this side of Steve Lacy. To this day I
> > don't know whether he was really pissed off, or if it was a kind of
> > low rent performance art, but their set was wonderful.
> > >
> > > I have "Coxhill on Ogun", and I've given this many, many spins on
> > > walkman, with uninterrupted listening. There's some good parts,
> > > like "The Wakefield Capers". For the life of me, I can't get
> > > into most of the rest of the album (mostly solo).
> > >
> > > I'm guessing his work with others like the Miller Bros., BofB,
> > > The Whole World are quite good though.
> > >
> > > I really want too get into enjoying British and European free-
> > > improvisation music, but all the samples on Allmusic.com, like
> > > my Coxhill album, it just won't register into my head or
> something. I
> > > really like Martin Davidson's website for Emanem, and the
> > > look they'd be very interesting, but I'm scared I may buy
> something I
> > > might not care for. I really miss the rules of structure with
> > > improvisation so far. It's just not like free-jazz to me.
> > >
> > > Any good starting points for free-improvistion stuff? You can e-
> > > me offline on that if you feel more comfortable.
> > >
> > > By the way, I am loving and enjoying a few great albums right
> > > Missus Beastly (with gorilla cover, 1974, really great btw!) Cos-
> > > "Post-Aeolian Train Robbery", Companyia Electrica
> > > Dharma "L'oucomballa" and Edition Speciale "Aliquante"--all of
> > > are Superb music! Ann Ballester really smokes on the ARP! Also,
> > > Miller's "Which Way Now"(Awesome, and packs quite a punch I might
> > > add!) and SM's "Middle Earth Masters". I also like SML's 'new'
> > > album, but am saddened knowing this was the last recording with
> > > (the album is dedicated to him). Patrizio Fariseeli's piano
> > > renditions of Area material is great, but I better buy a PAL DVD
> > > player off ebay if I want to watch it someday, lol! Finally, I
> > > Nigel Morris' "Soundscapes and Conversations", which is a very
> > > comeback for him.
> > >
> > > Sorry for the length,
> > > Take Care,
> > > Brian
> > >
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