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Re: [australianherps] What's in a name?

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  • Alexahnder
    The coastal carpet is M. mcdowelli ... From: maia_n_bob To: australianherps@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:08 PM Subject:
    Message 1 of 8 , Nov 30, 2002
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      The coastal carpet is M. mcdowelli
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      From: maia_n_bob
      To: australianherps@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2002 7:08 PM
      Subject: [australianherps] What's in a name?


      I have a question regarding my son's new snake.

      She was sold to us as a coastal carpet, and on both her parent's
      englosures was written, "brisbane carpet".

      As far as I have read, these are one and the same.

      However, written on the card the seller gave me is, "Morelia Spilota
      Variegata".

      When I put "Morelia Spilota Variegata" into googlesearch, I have seen
      it referred to as a Northwestern Carpet Python and also an Irian Jaya
      Carpet Python, but not coastal or brisbane.

      Any ideas?

      Thanks,

      Maia

      PS - here is the snake in question. (Hope the pic works.)

      http://home.iprimus.com.au/artsystems/images_maia/roo_snake_01.jpg

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      src="http://home.iprimus.com.au/artsystems/images_maia/roo_snake_01.jp
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    • straughenfamily@aol.com
      I dont think thats a spilota variegata... that looks to be a coastal carpet (morelia spilota mcdowelli) to me, whether its a brisbane coastal carpet or not, i
      Message 2 of 8 , Dec 1, 2002
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        I dont think thats a spilota variegata... that looks to be a coastal carpet
        (morelia spilota mcdowelli) to me, whether its a brisbane coastal carpet or
        not, i dont know, not sure what they look like !


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      • straughenfamily@aol.com
        and some books tend to call all carpet pythons in general, spilota variegata, so it can get quite confusing ! [Non-text portions of this message have been
        Message 3 of 8 , Dec 1, 2002
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          and some books tend to call all carpet pythons in general, spilota variegata,
          so it can get quite confusing !


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        • Maia L
            I have heard that in certain southern states, for licencing purposes they call em all variegata Wow - that s really interesting. Thanks.
          Message 4 of 8 , Dec 1, 2002
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              I have heard that in certain southern states,
            for licencing purposes they<BR>
            call 'em all variegata<BR>

            Wow - that's really interesting. Thanks.

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          • Michael McFadden
            G day Maia, The snake you have is a Coastal Carpet Python (Morelia spilota mcdowelli). The Coastal Carpet Python is found along eastern Australia from NSW to
            Message 5 of 8 , Dec 1, 2002
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              G'day Maia,

              The snake you have is a Coastal Carpet Python (Morelia spilota
              mcdowelli). The Coastal Carpet Python is found along eastern
              Australia from NSW to northern Qld. A Brisbane Carpet Python is a
              Coastal Carpet Python, but is referring to the area from which it
              originated.

              The reason it was referred to as M.s.variegata, may have been that
              until rather recently, the species was often only accepted as 3
              subspecies: The Diamond Python (M.s.spilota), the South-western
              Carpet Python (M.s.imbricata) and every other carpet python variation
              from northern and eastern Australia was recognised as M.s.variegata.
              This is how you will find it in Cogger's book. Now it is widely
              accepted that this clasification of M.s.variegata is actually 4
              sybspecies, including the Coastal Carpet Python.

              Michael

              --- In australianherps@y..., "maia_n_bob" <maia_n_bob@y...> wrote:
              > I have a question regarding my son's new snake.
              >
              > She was sold to us as a coastal carpet, and on both her parent's
              > englosures was written, "brisbane carpet".
              >
              > As far as I have read, these are one and the same.
              >
              > However, written on the card the seller gave me is, "Morelia
              Spilota
              > Variegata".
              >
              > When I put "Morelia Spilota Variegata" into googlesearch, I have
              seen
              > it referred to as a Northwestern Carpet Python and also an Irian
              Jaya
              > Carpet Python, but not coastal or brisbane.
              >
              > Any ideas?
              >
              > Thanks,
              >
              > Maia
              >
              > PS - here is the snake in question. (Hope the pic works.)
              >
              > http://home.iprimus.com.au/artsystems/images_maia/roo_snake_01.jpg
              >
              > <img
              >
              src="http://home.iprimus.com.au/artsystems/images_maia/roo_snake_01.jp
              > g" alt=">
            • Craig & Sarah
              I have heard that in certain southern states, for licencing purposes they call em all variegata I dont think thats a spilota variegata... that looks to be a
              Message 6 of 8 , Dec 1, 2002
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                I have heard that in certain southern states, for licencing purposes they
                call 'em all variegata


                I dont think thats a spilota variegata... that looks to be a coastal
                carpet
                (morelia spilota mcdowelli) to me, whether its a brisbane coastal carpet
                or
                not, i dont know, not sure what they look like !


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              • Maia L
                ... G day Maia, The snake you have is a Coastal Carpet Python (Morelia spilota mcdowelli). The Coastal Carpet Python is found along eastern Australia from NSW
                Message 7 of 8 , Dec 2, 2002
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                  Thanks Michael - that makes a lot of sense now.Maia--- Michael McFadden wrote:
                  ---------------------------------
                  G'day Maia,

                  The snake you have is a Coastal Carpet Python (Morelia spilota
                  mcdowelli). The Coastal Carpet Python is found along eastern
                  Australia from NSW to northern Qld. A Brisbane Carpet Python is a
                  Coastal Carpet Python, but is referring to the area from which it
                  originated.

                  The reason it was referred to as M.s.variegata, may have been that
                  until rather recently, the species was often only accepted as 3
                  subspecies: The Diamond Python (M.s.spilota), the South-western
                  Carpet Python (M.s.imbricata) and every other carpet python variation
                  from northern and eastern Australia was recognised as M.s.variegata.
                  This is how you will find it in Cogger's book. Now it is widely
                  accepted that this clasification of M.s.variegata is actually 4
                  sybspecies, including the Coastal Carpet Python.

                  Michael



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