Re: A great loss to the group has occurred...
- "All-examining Censure, with her hundred eyes and her thousand
tongues, soon discovers and as speedily divulges in all quarters
every least crime or foible that is part of their true character.
This clips the wings of their ambition." Gossip can also, he noted,
promote virtue, as some people are motivated more by fear of public
humiliation than they are by inner moral principles. " 'What will the
world say of me if I act thus?' is often a reflection strong enough
to enable us to resist the most powerful temptation to vice or folly.
This preserves the integrity of the wavering, the honesty of the
covetous, the sanctity of some of the religious, and the chastity of
--- In email@example.com, Mark Holm <mdholm@...> wrote:
> Donald Clement wrote:
> > "Gabba Gabba hey!"
> > The impetus for this group was to be able to post (even OT posts)
> > without the censorship of a moderator as is the case in the
> > atm mail list. That's why it was called ATM-Free. Richard was one
> > the founders of this list. The idea was that it was assumed every
> > member had the intelligence to do his/her own
> > Then anonymous gdhabas comes along and demands
> He wasn't anonymous. He signed his messages, "Greg".
> > Wonder if gdhabas is really the something akin to Benjamin
> > Franklin's Silence Dogood?
> > The amazing part is that many of you on this list went along
> > for censure of Richard . Shame on you!
> Here is my take on the gbhabas - Richard exchange.
> Greg started his group membership with some polite, on topic stuff
> plywood for Dob's. On an unrelated, but contemporaneous thread,
> let loose an OT, barely coherent, ill-humored, poltical-social
> and other experienced list members know it is Richard's form of
> and though I don't like it much, I tolerate it. The problem is, it
> still OT, barely coherent, ill-humored, political-social rant.
> Then, when Greg questioned whether he had stepped through the wrong
> door, Richard let him have another unfriendly dose off list. Greg
> decided he had indeed stepped through the wrong door, turned and
> So, which is the worst evil? Judicious moderation or chasing away
> newcomers that are sincerely interested in atm?
> I have been a member of the "original" atmlist.net for several
> and have seen the moderation at work. In my considered opinion,
> moderation has worked very well there. A few people that had
> keeping a civil tone have been straightened up, or ushered out. A
> lengthy OT threads have been extinguished. New members keep
> on the list, the atm discussion is wide ranging. The tone of
> is amazingly polite and friendly. I'd say it is a win-win.
> Mark Holm
- Bob May is stil in Palomar Hospital in Escondido at least for the next
two weeks, he is healing up slowly and has no computer contact, but
possible by the end of the month, he wishes the group a good 2007
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "jrrymiller" <gandamiller@...> wrote:
> Speaking of a loss to the group, I heard in November that Bob May was
> in the hospital. I have great affection for Bob as he is the first
> Guru that started me on grinding. I miss his useful comments and
> like to hear how he is doing.
> Jerry Miller
> P.S. Richard come back!