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  • jerryH
    Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also
    Message 1 of 9 , Jul 11 5:45 PM
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      Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.
    • Scott Henion
      ... As you did not say which lathe, it is hard to say ;). The service bulletins tell how to adjust the end play:
      Message 2 of 9 , Jul 11 5:50 PM
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        On 7/11/2013 8:45 PM, jerryH wrote:
        > Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.

        As you did not say which lathe, it is hard to say ;).

        The service bulletins tell how to adjust the end play:
        http://scottandersonpipes.com/atlas_press/servicebulletins.htm


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        Scott G. Henion
        Craftsman 12x36 lathe: http://shdesigns.org/Craftsman12x36
        Welding pages and homemade welder: http://shdesigns.org/Welding
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      • wa5cab
        There are no Atlas assembly instructions for anything except the headstock. Headstock assembly instructions, including how to preload the spindle bearings, are
        Message 3 of 9 , Jul 11 7:14 PM
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          There are no Atlas assembly instructions for anything except the headstock.  Headstock assembly instructions, including how to preload the spindle bearings, are to be found in the Atlas Technical Bulletins on the 6", Timken 10" and early Timken 12", and late 12" bulletins.  You will find these in the Files Section under Repairs and Maintenance/Atlas Technical Bulletins - Lathes of the Atlas_Craftsman_Projects group.  If you are not already a member, apply to join.  eMail traffic from the group is nil and generally discouraged unless you have a problem of some sort with the specific group.  It is operated to provide extra file storage space for the main group here.

          As to paint, I really haven't kept up with that.  Someone else will no doubt reply.

          Robert Downs - Houston
          wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
          MVPA 9480

          In a message dated 07/11/2013 19:45:07 PM Central Daylight Time, jerster1959@... writes:
          Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.


          Robert Downs - Houston
          wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
          MVPA 9480
        • Guenther Paul
          The only end play i would think about if i understand you correctly would be the play or slack in the in the bearings. that is adjustable i would go as tight
          Message 4 of 9 , Jul 12 3:43 AM
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            The only end play i would think about if i understand you correctly would be the play or slack in the in the bearings.
            that is adjustable i would go as tight as i could so the bearings are still free.
            There is a paint chart in the file, I would use Sherwin-Williams industrial paint. Any idea what the original paint looked like.
             
            GP
            From: jerryH <jerster1959@...>
            To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 PM
            Subject: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
             
            Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.

             
          • jerry Herrera
            my lathe is a 12x36. thanks for the reply. ________________________________ From: Scott Henion To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
            Message 5 of 9 , Jul 12 6:27 AM
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              my lathe is a 12x36. thanks for the reply.

              From: Scott Henion <shenion@...>
              To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:50 PM
              Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
               
              On 7/11/2013 8:45 PM, jerryH wrote:
              > Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.

              As you did not say which lathe, it is hard to say ;).

              The service bulletins tell how to adjust the end play:
              http://scottandersonpipes.com/atlas_press/servicebulletins.htm

              --

              ----------------------------------------------------------
              Scott G. Henion
              Craftsman 12x36 lathe: http://shdesigns.org/Craftsman12x36
              Welding pages and homemade welder: http://shdesigns.org/Welding
              ----------------------------------------------------------

            • jerry Herrera
              thanks I will take a look at the files. ________________________________ From: wa5cab@cs.com To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com Sent:
              Message 6 of 9 , Jul 12 6:28 AM
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                thanks I will take a look at the files.

                From: "wa5cab@..." <wa5cab@...>
                To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 7:14 PM
                Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
                 
                There are no Atlas assembly instructions for anything except the headstock.  Headstock assembly instructions, including how to preload the spindle bearings, are to be found in the Atlas Technical Bulletins on the 6", Timken 10" and early Timken 12", and late 12" bulletins.  You will find these in the Files Section under Repairs and Maintenance/Atlas Technical Bulletins - Lathes of the Atlas_Craftsman_Projects group.  If you are not already a member, apply to join.  eMail traffic from the group is nil and generally discouraged unless you have a problem of some sort with the specific group.  It is operated to provide extra file storage space for the main group here.

                As to paint, I really haven't kept up with that.  Someone else will no doubt reply.

                Robert Downs - Houston
                wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
                MVPA 9480

                In a message dated 07/11/2013 19:45:07 PM Central Daylight Time, jerster1959@... writes:
                Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.


                Robert Downs - Houston
                wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
                MVPA 9480
              • jerry Herrera
                Thanks by end play Im think the same as if you were checking the end play after assembly of an engine crank. how you place a dial indicater at the end and
                Message 7 of 9 , Jul 12 6:32 AM
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                  Thanks by end play Im think the same as if you were checking the end play after assembly of an engine crank. how you place a dial indicater at the end and pull. I have a 12x36 101.07403. dont know the production year I will find that out after i remove the bearings. Thanks for the reply. and I will check the file sections for assembli instructions.

                  From: Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
                  To: "atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com" <atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:43 AM
                  Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
                   
                  The only end play i would think about if i understand you correctly would be the play or slack in the in the bearings.
                  that is adjustable i would go as tight as i could so the bearings are still free.
                  There is a paint chart in the file, I would use Sherwin-Williams industrial paint. Any idea what the original paint looked like.
                   
                  GP
                  From: jerryH <jerster1959@...>
                  To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 PM
                  Subject: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
                   
                  Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.
                   
                • wa5cab
                  Jerster, I forgot to say earlier that the Tech Bulletins, with respect to the spindle bearings, apply only to those machines with Timken, not babbit, bearings.
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jul 12 9:07 AM
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                    Jerster,

                    I forgot to say earlier that the Tech Bulletins, with respect to the spindle bearings, apply only to those machines with Timken, not babbit, bearings.  However as your machine doesn't have babbit bearings, no harm done.

                    And you will need to join the _Projects sub-group in order to have access to files. 

                    The short answer to your earlier question is that end float should be zero.  Tapered roller bearings are normally operated with preload of some amount.  The Tech Bulletin tells you how to get the proper end float.

                    In a message dated 07/12/2013 08:37:15 AM Central Daylight Time, jerster1959@... writes:
                    Thanks by end play Im think the same as if you were checking the end play after assembly of an engine crank. how you place a dial indicater at the end and pull. I have a 12x36 101.07403. dont know the production year I will find that out after i remove the bearings. Thanks for the reply. and I will check the file sections for assembli instructions.




                    From: Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
                    To: "atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com" <atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:43 AM
                    Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin

                      The only end play i would think about if i understand you correctly would be the play or slack in the in the bearings.
                    that is adjustable i would go as tight as i could so the bearings are still free.
                    There is a paint chart in the file, I would use Sherwin-Williams industrial paint. Any idea what the original paint looked like.


                    GP


                    From: jerryH <jerster1959@...>
                    To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 PM
                    Subject: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin

                      Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.






                     









                    Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
                    wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
                    MVPA 9480
                  • jerry Herrera
                    thanks and I will join the Projects sub-group . ________________________________ From: wa5cab@cs.com To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jul 12 2:01 PM
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                      thanks and I will join the Projects sub-group .

                      From: "wa5cab@..." <wa5cab@...>
                      To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:07 AM
                      Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin
                       
                      Jerster,

                      I forgot to say earlier that the Tech Bulletins, with respect to the spindle bearings, apply only to those machines with Timken, not babbit, bearings.  However as your machine doesn't have babbit bearings, no harm done.

                      And you will need to join the _Projects sub-group in order to have access to files. 

                      The short answer to your earlier question is that end float should be zero.  Tapered roller bearings are normally operated with preload of some amount.  The Tech Bulletin tells you how to get the proper end float.

                      In a message dated 07/12/2013 08:37:15 AM Central Daylight Time, jerster1959@... writes:
                      Thanks by end play Im think the same as if you were checking the end play after assembly of an engine crank. how you place a dial indicater at the end and pull. I have a 12x36 101.07403. dont know the production year I will find that out after i remove the bearings. Thanks for the reply. and I will check the file sections for assembli instructions.




                      From: Guenther Paul <paulguenter@...>
                      To: "atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com" <atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:43 AM
                      Subject: Re: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin

                        The only end play i would think about if i understand you correctly would be the play or slack in the in the bearings.
                      that is adjustable i would go as tight as i could so the bearings are still free.
                      There is a paint chart in the file, I would use Sherwin-Williams industrial paint. Any idea what the original paint looked like.


                      GP


                      From: jerryH <jerster1959@...>
                      To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:45 PM
                      Subject: [atlas_craftsman] paint and endplayin

                        Hi everyone. Im looking to rebuild my lathe.when I reassemble the headstock. Is there endplay that I need to know. What about torque specs for reassembly. Also what type of paint is good that wil be durable and resistent to the oils and cutting fluids.






                       









                      Robert & Susan Downs - Houston
                      wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
                      MVPA 9480
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