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  • Dan Buchanan
    The later version of the Atlas square head was a Model 3950, usually found in blue color. The Sears Craftsman labeled model was the 101.21200, again the
    Message 1 of 8 , Jan 1, 2012
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      The later version of the Atlas "square head" was a Model 3950, usually found in blue color.
      The Sears Craftsman labeled model was the 101.21200, again the exact same thing but in a green shade of color.
      -Dan

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      From: n5fee <n5fee@...>
      Subject: [atlas_craftsman] Re: referbish of a 6" chraftsman atlas lathe
      To: atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, January 1, 2012, 9:28 AM
















       









      Dom,



      I have two 6 inch Atlas machines. One is an Atlas brand and the other is the Craftsman brand. Both are identical other than nameplates. Both my lathes were worn just like you describe. If you don't know there is a Yahoo group just for the Atlas/Craftsman 6 inch lathe packed full of information just for your machine. The Craftsman lathes were made by Atlas for Craftsman, the Atlas model was 618 (6 inch diameter x 18 inch bed, timken bearing) and the Craftsman models were 101.214 (timken bearing), 101.07301 (sleeve bearing) and a much later model I don't remember the number of off hand (this one was made in the 1960's with a much more box like head.)



      The group is:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas618lathe/



      I rebuilt both of my machines (they are the 618, 101.214 style) several years ago and described what I did in detail look for message #377 written in 2004 where I more fully documented my fix in the 618 group.



      To answer your initial question, I considered the fix you suggested and think it would be problematic. The inside of the ways have a notch at the headstock end that index the headstock to the ways. You would have to mill a precision fit notch on the tailstock end to allow you to flip the ways. I think this would be as much trouble as just grinding the ways like I did. By the way, I used my first lathe which was badly worn when I got it, for 20 years before I refurbished it. You can do a lot of good work by adjusting everything for use in the first 6 inches or so of way near the headstock.



      Dallas



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      > The ways of my lathe show some ware at the area of most frequent use, 3-5 inches in front of the headstock. The tailstock end of the ways are in excelleint shape. Is it possible to disassemble the ways from the feet and remount the rack gear and the lead screw bearings on the opposite side as the ways are turned 180 degrees to use the precision of the unworn ways in front of the head stock.I do not feel the need to work on anything of a length that will need the precision at the tail stock end of the lathe.Has anyone done this? Some how this sounds almost to simple a solution. I appreciate your experience Dom Costabile

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    • Dom Costabile
      Thanks Dallas your experience and write up of the regrinding is really appreciated Dom ... From: n5fee To: atlas craftsman
      Message 2 of 8 , Jan 6, 2012
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        Thanks Dallas your experience and write up of the regrinding is really appreciated Dom

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        From: "n5fee" <n5fee@...>
        To: "atlas craftsman" <atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:28:23 AM
        Subject: [atlas_craftsman] Re: referbish of a 6" chraftsman atlas lathe






        Dom,

        I have two 6 inch Atlas machines. One is an Atlas brand and the other is the Craftsman brand. Both are identical other than nameplates. Both my lathes were worn just like you describe. If you don't know there is a Yahoo group just for the Atlas/Craftsman 6 inch lathe packed full of information just for your machine. The Craftsman lathes were made by Atlas for Craftsman, the Atlas model was 618 (6 inch diameter x 18 inch bed, timken bearing) and the Craftsman models were 101.214 (timken bearing), 101.07301 (sleeve bearing) and a much later model I don't remember the number of off hand (this one was made in the 1960's with a much more box like head.)

        The group is:
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/atlas618lathe/

        I rebuilt both of my machines (they are the 618, 101.214 style) several years ago and described what I did in detail look for message #377 written in 2004 where I more fully documented my fix in the 618 group.

        To answer your initial question, I considered the fix you suggested and think it would be problematic. The inside of the ways have a notch at the headstock end that index the headstock to the ways. You would have to mill a precision fit notch on the tailstock end to allow you to flip the ways. I think this would be as much trouble as just grinding the ways like I did. By the way, I used my first lathe which was badly worn when I got it, for 20 years before I refurbished it. You can do a lot of good work by adjusting everything for use in the first 6 inches or so of way near the headstock.

        Dallas

        --- In atlas_craftsman@yahoogroups.com , "dombarb8601" <domc3333@...> wrote:
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        > The ways of my lathe show some ware at the area of most frequent use, 3-5 inches in front of the headstock. The tailstock end of the ways are in excelleint shape. Is it possible to disassemble the ways from the feet and remount the rack gear and the lead screw bearings on the opposite side as the ways are turned 180 degrees to use the precision of the unworn ways in front of the head stock.I do not feel the need to work on anything of a length that will need the precision at the tail stock end of the lathe.Has anyone done this? Some how this sounds almost to simple a solution. I appreciate your experience Dom Costabile
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