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  • maggie
    Naomi: Nothing is compulsory in U.S. education, ESPECIALLY art. School requirements are decided in part by each state, although our federal government is
    Message 1 of 7 , Mar 29 3:36 PM
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    • Molliy
      I am in Illinois. I teacher K-8 as the art teacher. We have three Kindergarten classes that alternate every third day for art second semester. Three first
      Message 2 of 7 , Mar 29 6:45 PM
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        I am in Illinois. I teacher K-8 as the art teacher. We have three
        Kindergarten classes that alternate every third day for art second
        semester. Three first grades every third day for art first semester.
        Three each of 2nd and 3rd which meet every third day for art all
        year. My 2 fourth grades, 2 fifth grades, and 2 sixth grades
        alternate every other day all year. My 7th and 8th grade is a
        combined class of 40 students that meet every A day ( every other day
        for 50 minutes). K-5 is 30 minutes, 6th is 50 minutes.
        We have national standards of art education as well as Illnois
        standards.
        Marianna

        --- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "Naomi Hillman"
        <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
        >
        > Hello!
        >
        > I know these are quite simple questions, but I'm a little confused.
        I don't
        > really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered
        if
        > somebody could clarify some things for me.
        >
        > Here in the UK we go to primary school from 4-11 and here children
        are
        > taught in classes by one teacher who teaches them all the
        > subjects...sometimes specialists visit but generally all subjects
        are taught
        > by the same person. Then at secondary school or high school, the
        student are
        > taught all subjects by specialist teachers who have their own
        rooms - and
        > this is what I do. I have my "own" art room and students come to
        me for
        > between 50 minutes and 240 (not all in one go) minutes per week
        depending on
        > their age and level of study - all students study art 'til the age
        of 14
        > when they decide if they want to continue with it.
        >
        > How does the teaching of Art work in the US? Do some of you teach
        at all
        > levels? Do you get the same students each week? Is it a compulsory
        subject.
        >
        > I know it's a bit basic, but listening to all the stuff you've been
        talking
        > about really interests me and I'd like to understand it better!
        > Thanks,
        > Naomi xx
        >
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      • Ken
        Up until about 1920, schools in the U.S. were taught in small schools- most in a one-room schoolhouse by one teacher. The teacher taught all subjects to grades
        Message 3 of 7 , Mar 29 6:58 PM
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          Up until about 1920, schools in the U.S. were taught in small schools-
          most in a one-room schoolhouse by one teacher. The teacher taught all
          subjects to grades 1-8. The Amish in our country still do this. Amish
          children attend up to the 8th grade.

          Public education in the U.S. is a state responsibility and varies from
          state to state. The teaching of art varies from district to district.
          It usually depends on the importance of a subject to the community and
          the budget whether art is taught at the elementary level. Public
          schools are usually funded with real estate taxes and are free to the
          community.

          We also have private and charter schools. Some are religious in
          nature. These require a tuition and usually have a theme. Public
          charter schools are funded with tax dollars but can have students from
          a wider area. Virtual charter schools are becoming a big thing.
          (http://www.connectionsacademy.com for example) Some of these accept
          students from across an entire state.

          Because of NCLB (http://nclb.gov), the federal government has exerted
          pressure on states to perform in certain subject areas. Because of
          this, many are eliminating their art programs to focus on these subjects.

          Most states require students to attend school until the age of 16. In
          Indiana they are required to attend 180 days a year.

          Ken

          --- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "Naomi Hillman"
          <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hello!
          >
          > I know these are quite simple questions, but I'm a little confused.
          I don't
          > really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered if
          > somebody could clarify some things for me.
          >
          > Here in the UK we go to primary school from 4-11 and here children are
          > taught in classes by one teacher who teaches them all the
          > subjects...sometimes specialists visit but generally all subjects
          are taught
          > by the same person. Then at secondary school or high school, the
          student are
          > taught all subjects by specialist teachers who have their own rooms
          - and
          > this is what I do. I have my "own" art room and students come to me
          for
          > between 50 minutes and 240 (not all in one go) minutes per week
          depending on
          > their age and level of study - all students study art 'til the age
          of 14
          > when they decide if they want to continue with it.
          >
          > How does the teaching of Art work in the US? Do some of you teach at
          all
          > levels? Do you get the same students each week? Is it a compulsory
          subject.
          >
          > I know it's a bit basic, but listening to all the stuff you've been
          talking
          > about really interests me and I'd like to understand it better!
          > Thanks,
          > Naomi xx
          >
          > _________________________________________________________________
          > Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes.
          > http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/
          >
        • Naomi Hillman
          That helps a - thanks. I don t understand the teaching system in the US as a whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I think I
          Message 4 of 7 , Mar 30 1:05 AM
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            That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching system in the US as a
            whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I
            think I understand it I realise that I got it completely wrong...but that's
            probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American films rather than real
            life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even teaching my second
            subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually impossible - but one day I
            hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what life is like in an
            American High School - it would be fascinating. I thought it was bad that we
            are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory til 14 and then quite
            popular afterwards.

            Do you teach older students towards an exam or final grade? What are
            credits?

            Sorry to keep asking!

            Naomi x

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          • Act Silly 4 Art
            Naomi, Teaching in America is not virtually impossible for a British Citizen... 3 years ago, the private school that I teach at hired a very nice gentleman
            Message 5 of 7 , Mar 30 1:31 AM
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              Naomi,
              Teaching in America is not virtually impossible for a British Citizen... 3 years ago, the private school that I teach at hired a very nice gentleman from Wales.  Richard had answered our advertisement for a Middle School Math Teacher (Middle school comprises of Year 6 through 8 students).  He sold his home in Wales, moved all his belonging to Hawaii, and got a work VISA for a year.  He was offered a contract to stay another year but he was absolutely homesick so he went back to Wales.  He was such a great teacher and we do miss him much.
               
              So, if you really want to teach in America the possibility is there you just need to make it possible.
               
              cat in honolulu

              Naomi Hillman <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
              That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching system in the US as a
              whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I
              think I understand it I realise that I got it completely wrong...but that's
              probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American films rather than real
              life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even teaching my second
              subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually impossible - but one day I
              hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what life is like in an
              American High School - it would be fascinating. I thought it was bad that we
              are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory til 14 and then quite
              popular afterwards.

              Do you teach older students towards an exam or final grade? What are
              credits?

              Sorry to keep asking!

              Naomi x

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            • Ken Rohrer
              Naomi, Because education is the responsibility of the state, each state has different requirements on getting certified. If you really want to teach in the
              Message 6 of 7 , Mar 30 8:58 AM
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                Naomi,

                Because education is the responsibility of the state,
                each state has different requirements on getting
                certified. If you really want to teach in the U.S., I
                would recommend you visit each state's department of
                education website and read the requirements.
                Frequently, they will accept transcripts from out of
                state or other countries. They may require you take an
                additional course or two, however. You can find each
                state's department of education by visiting:

                http://www.doe.state.in.us/htmls/states.html

                Credits (credit hours) are points that are earned
                toward a degree. Each course has a certain amount of
                credit hours. Shorter courses may get 1, 2, or 3
                credit hours, while longer courses may get 4 or 5. To
                get my masters degree, I earned 50 credit hours.

                Most, if not all states require students to take an
                exam to graduate. To go on to college, they require
                you take an SAT/ACT test.

                Feel free to ask more questions if you like.

                Ken

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                Re: The American Art Teaching System??!
                Posted by: "Naomi Hillman" naomi_hillman@...
                Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:05 am (PST)

                That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching
                system in the US as a
                whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and
                varied and as soon as I
                think I understand it I realise that I got it
                completely wrong...but that's
                probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American
                films rather than real
                life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even
                teaching my second
                subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually
                impossible - but one day I
                hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what
                life is like in an
                American High School - it would be fascinating. I
                thought it was bad that we
                are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory
                til 14 and then quite
                popular afterwards.

                Do you teach older students towards an exam or final
                grade? What are
                credits?

                Sorry to keep asking!

                Naomi x
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