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  • Naomi Hillman
    Hello! I know these are quite simple questions, but I m a little confused. I don t really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered if
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      Hello!

      I know these are quite simple questions, but I'm a little confused. I don't
      really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered if
      somebody could clarify some things for me.

      Here in the UK we go to primary school from 4-11 and here children are
      taught in classes by one teacher who teaches them all the
      subjects...sometimes specialists visit but generally all subjects are taught
      by the same person. Then at secondary school or high school, the student are
      taught all subjects by specialist teachers who have their own rooms - and
      this is what I do. I have my "own" art room and students come to me for
      between 50 minutes and 240 (not all in one go) minutes per week depending on
      their age and level of study - all students study art 'til the age of 14
      when they decide if they want to continue with it.

      How does the teaching of Art work in the US? Do some of you teach at all
      levels? Do you get the same students each week? Is it a compulsory subject.

      I know it's a bit basic, but listening to all the stuff you've been talking
      about really interests me and I'd like to understand it better!
      Thanks,
      Naomi xx

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    • maggie
      Naomi: Nothing is compulsory in U.S. education, ESPECIALLY art. School requirements are decided in part by each state, although our federal government is
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      • Molliy
        I am in Illinois. I teacher K-8 as the art teacher. We have three Kindergarten classes that alternate every third day for art second semester. Three first
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          I am in Illinois. I teacher K-8 as the art teacher. We have three
          Kindergarten classes that alternate every third day for art second
          semester. Three first grades every third day for art first semester.
          Three each of 2nd and 3rd which meet every third day for art all
          year. My 2 fourth grades, 2 fifth grades, and 2 sixth grades
          alternate every other day all year. My 7th and 8th grade is a
          combined class of 40 students that meet every A day ( every other day
          for 50 minutes). K-5 is 30 minutes, 6th is 50 minutes.
          We have national standards of art education as well as Illnois
          standards.
          Marianna

          --- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "Naomi Hillman"
          <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hello!
          >
          > I know these are quite simple questions, but I'm a little confused.
          I don't
          > really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered
          if
          > somebody could clarify some things for me.
          >
          > Here in the UK we go to primary school from 4-11 and here children
          are
          > taught in classes by one teacher who teaches them all the
          > subjects...sometimes specialists visit but generally all subjects
          are taught
          > by the same person. Then at secondary school or high school, the
          student are
          > taught all subjects by specialist teachers who have their own
          rooms - and
          > this is what I do. I have my "own" art room and students come to
          me for
          > between 50 minutes and 240 (not all in one go) minutes per week
          depending on
          > their age and level of study - all students study art 'til the age
          of 14
          > when they decide if they want to continue with it.
          >
          > How does the teaching of Art work in the US? Do some of you teach
          at all
          > levels? Do you get the same students each week? Is it a compulsory
          subject.
          >
          > I know it's a bit basic, but listening to all the stuff you've been
          talking
          > about really interests me and I'd like to understand it better!
          > Thanks,
          > Naomi xx
          >
          > _________________________________________________________________
          > Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes.
          > http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/
          >
        • Ken
          Up until about 1920, schools in the U.S. were taught in small schools- most in a one-room schoolhouse by one teacher. The teacher taught all subjects to grades
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            Up until about 1920, schools in the U.S. were taught in small schools-
            most in a one-room schoolhouse by one teacher. The teacher taught all
            subjects to grades 1-8. The Amish in our country still do this. Amish
            children attend up to the 8th grade.

            Public education in the U.S. is a state responsibility and varies from
            state to state. The teaching of art varies from district to district.
            It usually depends on the importance of a subject to the community and
            the budget whether art is taught at the elementary level. Public
            schools are usually funded with real estate taxes and are free to the
            community.

            We also have private and charter schools. Some are religious in
            nature. These require a tuition and usually have a theme. Public
            charter schools are funded with tax dollars but can have students from
            a wider area. Virtual charter schools are becoming a big thing.
            (http://www.connectionsacademy.com for example) Some of these accept
            students from across an entire state.

            Because of NCLB (http://nclb.gov), the federal government has exerted
            pressure on states to perform in certain subject areas. Because of
            this, many are eliminating their art programs to focus on these subjects.

            Most states require students to attend school until the age of 16. In
            Indiana they are required to attend 180 days a year.

            Ken

            --- In art_education@yahoogroups.com, "Naomi Hillman"
            <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
            >
            > Hello!
            >
            > I know these are quite simple questions, but I'm a little confused.
            I don't
            > really understand the American Art teaching system and I wondered if
            > somebody could clarify some things for me.
            >
            > Here in the UK we go to primary school from 4-11 and here children are
            > taught in classes by one teacher who teaches them all the
            > subjects...sometimes specialists visit but generally all subjects
            are taught
            > by the same person. Then at secondary school or high school, the
            student are
            > taught all subjects by specialist teachers who have their own rooms
            - and
            > this is what I do. I have my "own" art room and students come to me
            for
            > between 50 minutes and 240 (not all in one go) minutes per week
            depending on
            > their age and level of study - all students study art 'til the age
            of 14
            > when they decide if they want to continue with it.
            >
            > How does the teaching of Art work in the US? Do some of you teach at
            all
            > levels? Do you get the same students each week? Is it a compulsory
            subject.
            >
            > I know it's a bit basic, but listening to all the stuff you've been
            talking
            > about really interests me and I'd like to understand it better!
            > Thanks,
            > Naomi xx
            >
            > _________________________________________________________________
            > Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes.
            > http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/
            >
          • Naomi Hillman
            That helps a - thanks. I don t understand the teaching system in the US as a whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I think I
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              That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching system in the US as a
              whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I
              think I understand it I realise that I got it completely wrong...but that's
              probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American films rather than real
              life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even teaching my second
              subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually impossible - but one day I
              hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what life is like in an
              American High School - it would be fascinating. I thought it was bad that we
              are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory til 14 and then quite
              popular afterwards.

              Do you teach older students towards an exam or final grade? What are
              credits?

              Sorry to keep asking!

              Naomi x

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            • Act Silly 4 Art
              Naomi, Teaching in America is not virtually impossible for a British Citizen... 3 years ago, the private school that I teach at hired a very nice gentleman
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                Naomi,
                Teaching in America is not virtually impossible for a British Citizen... 3 years ago, the private school that I teach at hired a very nice gentleman from Wales.  Richard had answered our advertisement for a Middle School Math Teacher (Middle school comprises of Year 6 through 8 students).  He sold his home in Wales, moved all his belonging to Hawaii, and got a work VISA for a year.  He was offered a contract to stay another year but he was absolutely homesick so he went back to Wales.  He was such a great teacher and we do miss him much.
                 
                So, if you really want to teach in America the possibility is there you just need to make it possible.
                 
                cat in honolulu

                Naomi Hillman <naomi_hillman@...> wrote:
                That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching system in the US as a
                whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and varied and as soon as I
                think I understand it I realise that I got it completely wrong...but that's
                probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American films rather than real
                life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even teaching my second
                subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually impossible - but one day I
                hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what life is like in an
                American High School - it would be fascinating. I thought it was bad that we
                are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory til 14 and then quite
                popular afterwards.

                Do you teach older students towards an exam or final grade? What are
                credits?

                Sorry to keep asking!

                Naomi x

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              • Ken Rohrer
                Naomi, Because education is the responsibility of the state, each state has different requirements on getting certified. If you really want to teach in the
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                  Naomi,

                  Because education is the responsibility of the state,
                  each state has different requirements on getting
                  certified. If you really want to teach in the U.S., I
                  would recommend you visit each state's department of
                  education website and read the requirements.
                  Frequently, they will accept transcripts from out of
                  state or other countries. They may require you take an
                  additional course or two, however. You can find each
                  state's department of education by visiting:

                  http://www.doe.state.in.us/htmls/states.html

                  Credits (credit hours) are points that are earned
                  toward a degree. Each course has a certain amount of
                  credit hours. Shorter courses may get 1, 2, or 3
                  credit hours, while longer courses may get 4 or 5. To
                  get my masters degree, I earned 50 credit hours.

                  Most, if not all states require students to take an
                  exam to graduate. To go on to college, they require
                  you take an SAT/ACT test.

                  Feel free to ask more questions if you like.

                  Ken

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                  Re: The American Art Teaching System??!
                  Posted by: "Naomi Hillman" naomi_hillman@...
                  Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:05 am (PST)

                  That helps a - thanks. I don't understand the teaching
                  system in the US as a
                  whole really anyway, it seems really diverse and
                  varied and as soon as I
                  think I understand it I realise that I got it
                  completely wrong...but that's
                  probably cos my knowledge is based lots on American
                  films rather than real
                  life! I'd love to work in America for a while, even
                  teaching my second
                  subject, but for a British teacher it's virtually
                  impossible - but one day I
                  hope to be able to visit for a week or so and see what
                  life is like in an
                  American High School - it would be fascinating. I
                  thought it was bad that we
                  are marginalised here, but at least we are compulsory
                  til 14 and then quite
                  popular afterwards.

                  Do you teach older students towards an exam or final
                  grade? What are
                  credits?

                  Sorry to keep asking!

                  Naomi x
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