Re: [art_education] Re: "I like it this way"
- Hate to say it, but it's a twisted response to 'there is no right or wrong in art'
and the perception that anything is art if the artist says it is.
---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 17:35:36 -0000
>From: "henlaojim" <henlaojim@...>
>Subject: [art_education] Re: "I like it this way"
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Cathy Wilson"
> > Do you ever get kids who do a slip-sloppy job of a
> project, fast and
> > lazy, and then when you suggest improvements, say,
> "But I like it
> > way"?
> Back on the reservation it was one of the two
> standard responses to
> any critique. The other one was, "Well, it'a always
> about you!!"
> I finally decided that the best response to "That's
> how I want it to
> be" is "No it isn't, that's just how it happened to
> come out."
> I'm not sure where this idea that any student
> response should be
> praised and accepted came from, but it seems to me
> to be a sure way to
> raise a batch of self absorbed fools. It makes no
> sense to me, but
> the, it's always about me, I suppose.
- I teach all grades and my response varies according to their age and
the amount of time I have. For high schoolers, it helps to have a set
of grading objectives ready, and I can point out specific things, like
neat paint lines. The bottom line for them is, "I don't like it that
way, and I'm going to grade it. You need to spend some more time."
Sometimes they answer this with "I don't care." and I reply that it's
obvious. With younger students (whom I don't grade) I try to sit down
and talk about how this or this shows that they don't care very much
about this project. Real artists think about what they're doing and
try their hardest. LIttle kids seem to want to please adults, and
older kids want to please their peers, and it's important to get kids
to correct their behavior at a young age. Help them WANT to care now,
for their own sake. I do everything I can to make my students feel
like they're "real" aritsts, and a poster of how artists think and
I hope this reply helps.
--- In email@example.com, "Cathy Wilson" <wilsonc@...> wrote:
> Do you ever get kids who do a slip-sloppy job of a project, fast and
> lazy, and then when you suggest improvements, say, "But I like it this
> So far all I can think of to say is "Do it my way the first time, then
> you can do it your way the second time." :) good medicine for lazies.
> Cathy Wilson
> Price, Utah
I relate it back to other subjects. I always tell the students that if they were in English class and the teacher tells them to write a short story and they write a poem instead it doesn't matter how great the poem is or how much they "like it this way" it will receive no credit until it is done as assigned. I also tell them they are more than welcomed and encouraged to do it "their" way when they get home.
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