- Dear Meher and All, Your computations and understanding are correct. India can easily spend not only Rs. 500/- but 600/- pm and still cover all 6-14 year oldMessage 1 of 12 , Apr 4, 2010View Source
Dear Meher and All,
Your computations and understanding are correct. India can easily spend not only Rs. 500/- but 600/- pm and still cover all 6-14 year old in govt. funded schooling. The problem is that the cost in Govt. schools, if all teachers are paid 6th Pay Commission salary, would be many multiple of this sum, hence the need of Basha type private-public partnership schools, that can be held accountable to meet social goals. There are proven/ demonstration that your Basha school can meet ALL schooling needs of the children, if supported properly. This is the model that country needs.
--- On Sat, 4/3/10, meher engineer <mengineer2003@...> wrote:
From: meher engineer <mengineer2003@...>
Subject: Re: [arkitectindia] Cost of Education in Primary Education in BMC schools: Facts to consider
Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 4:46 PM
I am part of an effort to provide free school education to first generation learners. The effort has been on for three years.
The school called Basha; is located at 7B Kankuliya Road. It works on weekdays, after school hours, for 3 hours a day (3 pm to 6 pm), in the premises of a Junior school, in Kolkata. The kids parents bear no expenses at all for the education of the 30 children who attend the school. We provide books, uniforms, paer, pencils, a hot meal cooked on the premises whose menu is rice, daal and vegetables every day plus one piece of fish and one egg once a week. We spend, including teacher's salaries, Rs 500 per month on each child. This is not unreasonable. The Dum Dum Motijheel school, which my friend and collaborator Shri Mihir sengupta is the Headmaster of, and which has been running for two decades now charges Rs 700 per month, partly because it owns its premises and partly because it pays its teachers much better than we pay ours.
If you accept the number of kids in India between six and fourteen years to be 20 million, which is a good guess because the 2001 Census put the population of the below 20's at 50 crores, and because the right to education is for eight years (6 to 14) then the total yearly expenditure for the country, as per BASHA's expenses, comes to Rs 1 lakh twenty thousand crores.
The following graph:$1.22 Trillion US dollars at current prices - 2008
Source: World Bank, World Development Indicators
says that India's GDP at very nearly Rs 50 lakh crores. 3 percent of that is 1 lakh 50 thousand crores.
The amount sanctioned in the Budget 2010 2011 was analysed by J B G Tilak (The Hindu, March 10, 2010). He wrote: :
"The total plan allocation for education sector has been raised by 15 per cent to Rs.42,000 crore, from Rs.36,400 crore proposed in the 2009-10 budget. (The revised estimate for 2009-10 is only Rs.30,600 crore) At the current rate of inflation, the increase is very modest, if not insignificant.
The allocation for elementary education is increased from Rs. 21,700 crore in 2009-10 to Rs. 25,000 crore in current budget — a meagre 15 per cent increase in nominal terms. This includes an allocation of Rs.15,000 crore for Sarva Siksha Abhiyan (SSA), the major flagship programme for universalisation of elementary education and Rs. 9,300 crore for the national scheme of mid-day meals — together accounting for 97 per cent of the total allocation for SSA. Among others, strengthening of teachers training institutions and quality education in madrassas are the two notable budget items that account for the rest. The increases in allocation of resources to SSA, the mid-day meal scheme and the elementary education as a whole seem to be only token increases. The allocations pale further, given the context of enactment of the Right to Education legislation by Parliament only a few months ago, which promised substantial improvement in access, quality and other dimensions of elementary education and provision of quality education to every child as a fundamental right. The implementation of the Right to Education Act requires enormous resources. Conservative estimates put the requirement as Rs. 1,71,000 crore for a five-year period, but the government seems to have decided, as per the media reports, to provide only Rs. 32,000 crore for the remaining two years of the eleventh five year plan for SSA, which is considered the main or the only scheme for the implementation of the Act.
It appears the Ministry had sought an allocation of Rs. 40,000 crore in the current budget, and the Planning Commission seemed to have indicated its willingness to allocate Rs.35,000 crore; and the Ministry of Finance has allocated finally only Rs.15,000 crore for SSA and Rs. 9,300 crore for midday meals."
Argument is good. Arguments that lead to no conclusion are neither bad nor good. Argument by assertion are silly. I suggest leaving them to politicians eager to score a point.
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Leena Prasad <leenadivansh@ yahoo.com> wrote:Agree that all state run schools should not be labeled as inefficient. One has to actually goout and see some of the principals and teachers of MCD schools to understand the kind of service they are doing even under hard conditions. It is often challenging to work within a system and bring about changes that are positive and often a shortcut when a certain lobby tries to build a paralel system just in the fake name of building better ones.Once for a change, we can pat a back on some of the MCD schools for the good work they do ... these might be few, yet they do exist. And if we try, we could have more of these kinds.
- Hello Naaz, Thanks for your email and encouragement. I feel, it is absolutely essentail for citizens to look into various important issues like Education,Message 2 of 12 , Apr 8, 2010View SourceHello Naaz,Thanks for your email and encouragement.I feel, it is absolutely essentail for citizens to look into various important issues like Education, Health, PDS, etc. which are being managed by the Government, rightly so because they can make the resources and expertise available and even sanction budgets which should be proportional to the importance of the issue.However like minded citizens need to get involved into understanding as well as monitoring and observing the system to ensure improved efficiency not only to ensure child rights in the case of M4CR, but also because tax payer's money is being used/misused. This will ultimately lead to improved accountability.We have seen very active RWAs/ALMs in Mumbai interacting with local municipal departments on various issues and ensuring the sytem and officials work for the betterment of the city.Infact the role of Central as well as State Governments authorities needs to be monitored by active participation of concerned citizens, if we need to make a difference.Just recently, we have read about statements made by respected Chief Ministers of some states that they do not have the resources to implement the RTE act and needs total funding support from the Central Government, whereas we have seen thousands of crores being spent on constructing huge gardens and statues and naming it on former politicians of ruling parties. Just shows where the priorities lie.Concept like M4CR and its focus on Primary Education to start with, has been a very positive step in direction of citizens participation and we hope we will be able to expand our network not only in Mumbai, but in various other parts of the country as well.Thanks and Best RegardsNitin-M4CR
From: naaz khair <naazkhair@...>
Sent: Friday, April 2, 2010 8:51:15
Subject: Re: [arkitectindia] Cost of Education in Primary Education in BMC schools: Facts to consider
Hello,Nitin, good initiative of CRY in Mumbai. We should have it in all the States. It is the same story everywhere. Pankaj, if we do a calculation for the whole Country, it is billions of monies wasted. It is so important to take education departments everywhere to the next level and I believe initiatives like M4CR can do this. We need initiatives like M4CR in every State with larger membership to make the difference. We have to make the government system work. It has the best resources and expertise.Thanks and regards,NaazOn Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Pankaj Jain <pjain2002@yahoo. com> wrote:
If the numbers given by Nitin in his mail are correct, this amounts to per child annual expenditure of Rs. 39822/- per child per year, (1792 crores divided by 4.5 lakh children) meaning a monthly fee of Rs. 3325/- pm.
This cost would not include the cost of land and building which already exist and is not included in annual budget. Even a lower estimate of these cost in Mumbai would be Rs. 20000/- per child per year, which a private school of BMC type facilities would have to incur.
Does this mean that BMC Education Department is charging a fee of around Rs. 60,000/- per child from all of us, as citizens of the country, for educating each child and giving a quality of education that all of us know to be poor.
Is this Neo-liberal exploitation or a plunder of resources meant for children in the name of 'socially desirable education'.
A thought to ponder.
PS: Mr. Nitin, I hope your facts are correct and you have not erred up in adding or missing a zero.
--- On Thu, 3/25/10, nitin_29w <nitin_29w@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: nitin_29w <nitin_29w@yahoo. com>
Subject: [arkitectindia] Primary Education in BMC schools
To: arkitectindia@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 7:29 PM
I have been associated with CRY for almost three years now and we have initiated Mumbaiites for Child Rights, which is a network of urban priviledged like minded citizens in Mumbai who are focussing on issues related to Child Rights.
Presently the group comprises of almost 75 members in 5 different wards of Mumbai and is focussing on Right to Free, Equal and Quality Education for all children.
The group is now interacting with the BMC Education Department and members are visiting and observing BMC schools in their neighbourhood and sharing their findings with the Department for overall improvement in quality of Education.
We understand that the BMC is presently managing approximately 1177 primary schools in Mumbai with an approximate enrolment of 4,50,000 children in their schools.
There is a huge budget for Primary Education, infact the budget has almost doubled from approximately Rs.890 crores in 2007/08 to Rs.1792 crores for 2010-11.
It is also very important to note that the BMC Education department is presently providing almost everything to a child enrolled into a BMC school starting from 27 items, which includes uniforms, schoolbags, notebooks, compassboxes, shoes, raincoats, etc. apart from providing the children mid day meals. milk, daily.
They also provide various Health check ups and schemes as well as Accident Insurance scheme for all children enrolled in the schools. Scholarship programmes, Cash/Fixed Deposit Incentives for girl child, etc are some of the other benefits. Free access to school clinics and municipal hospitals for minor and major illnesses are also provided.
However there seems to be a total lack of awareness of these facilities/amenitie s with the parents of these children enrolled in to these schools. Infact it is also quite surprising that the parents prefer to send their children to private schools but not to the municipal school despite all the above support provided by the department.
A major issue observed by the members of M4CR, Mumbaiites for Child Rights is lack of effective implementation and monitoring of all these facilities/amenitie s to the children, eg PTA meetings are very rarely held in these schools.
We also understand that a new primary school teacher in BMC school not only has a secured job but is also paid more than twice the salary of teachers employed in private primary schools.
The members have started interacting with authorities in Education Department and have been sharing their observations at the highest level to ensure overall improvement in the system.
We are looking at increasing the number of members in our group to visit and observe municipal schools in different parts of Mumbai, as well as volunteers who can visit communities and spread the word and increase awareness so as to ensure that every child has an access to atleast basic primary education from the system.
I shall highly appreciate receiving suggestions/ opinions on this subject.
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