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  • Kaleem Kawaja
    Shazia Ilmi s resignation from AAP Kaleem Kawaja Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and
    Message 1 of 9 , May 25, 2014
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      Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
       
       
      Kaleem Kawaja
       
       
       
      Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
       
       While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

      For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

      Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

      Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
       
       

    • shabnamhashmi@...
      Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas claim to fame? Highly filthy
      Message 2 of 9 , Jun 4, 2014
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        Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

        How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

        AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

        Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

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        Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
         
         
        Kaleem Kawaja
         
         
         
        Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
         
         While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

        For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

        Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

        Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
         
         

      • Daniel Mazgaonkar
        Dear Kaleemji, I dont think such writings would help in any way to repair the situation in the A A P. In fact, at present we need such writings, talks,
        Message 3 of 9 , Jun 4, 2014
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           Dear Kaleemji,

          I dont think such writings would help in any way to repair the situation in the A A P. In fact, at present we need such writings, talks, analysis, self-introspection so that the party once again regathers and starts thinking on the important issues of our country. Please consider this humble suggestion.

          Daniel Mazgaonkar
          Sarvodaya activist




          On 25 May 2014 19:48, Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia] <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
           



           
          Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
           
           
          Kaleem Kawaja
           
           
           
          Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
           
           While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

          For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

          Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

          Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
           
           




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        • Pankaj Jain
          Dear Shabnamji, The political left, even earlier congress too, in India has had no less noble goals, and no less illustrious/ honest/ committed thinkers/ doers
          Message 4 of 9 , Jun 6, 2014
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            Dear Shabnamji,

            The political left, even earlier congress too, in India has had no less noble goals, and no less illustrious/ honest/ committed thinkers/ doers compared to AAP. Why should we expect any more from AAP than what left political parties and Congress have been able to achieve?

            Pankaj 




            On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:48 AM, "shabnamhashmi@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


             
            Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

            How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

            AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

            Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

            Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

            From: "Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com>
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            Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP

             


             
            Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
             
             
            Kaleem Kawaja
             
             
             
            Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
             
             While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.
            For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 
            Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?
            Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
             
             



          • Narender IPAC
            She is not demanding a special treatment, what is asking for is a fair treatment, and expecting the Party to be little more transparent and democratic. By
            Message 5 of 9 , Jun 6, 2014
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              She is not demanding a special treatment, what is asking for is a fair treatment, and expecting the Party to be little more transparent and democratic. By this, I think, she not asking for sky


              On 25 May 2014 19:48, Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia] <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
               



               
              Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
               
               
              Kaleem Kawaja
               
               
               
              Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
               
               While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

              For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

              Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

              Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
               
               




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            • Daniel Mazgaonkar
              Yes, my friend Kaleemji, You are right. There are problems and problems. I think the best solution would be that they call a Sangeeti (A A P community meeting)
              Message 6 of 9 , Jun 7, 2014
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                Yes, my friend Kaleemji,

                You are right. There are problems and problems. I think the best solution would be that they call a Sangeeti (A A P community meeting) in which all be invited and sit for two-three days at one place and thrash out all the issues, including the leadership issue. And people like you and many others who take an objective view of the present situation, should also sit with them.

                But would they be willing ? That is the question. I think, you should directly talk to Yogendra Yadav, if possible, Medha Patkar, and some others, so that such a meeting, leaving our own biases out, be called soon, nay, soonest.

                Regards,

                Daniel.


                On 5 June 2014 08:45, shabnamhashmi@... [arkitectindia] <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                 

                Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

                How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

                AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

                Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

                Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

                From: "Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com>
                Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:18:16 -0400
                Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP

                 



                 
                Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
                 
                 
                Kaleem Kawaja
                 
                 
                 
                Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
                 
                 While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

                For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

                Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

                Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
                 
                 




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              • vbs udaipur
                The left and Congress have achieved a lot. And even the last 5 years of miscommunication, drift and apparent lack of Governance did have many insights. The
                Message 7 of 9 , Jun 9, 2014
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                  The left and Congress have achieved a lot. And even the last 5 years of miscommunication, drift and apparent lack of Governance did have many insights. The problem is that the challenges and the expectations grow. People within having tasted power and each of us having our own notion of role as a leader (up to as an MLA, MP, Minister ..) are not able to present a coherent picture of goals and hence confusion.
                  To wash off the contributions of the liberal thought and more so the left thought is not easy
                  H


                  On Monday, 9 June 2014 7:21 AM, "Pankaj Jain pjain2002@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                   
                  Dear Shabnamji,

                  The political left, even earlier congress too, in India has had no less noble goals, and no less illustrious/ honest/ committed thinkers/ doers compared to AAP. Why should we expect any more from AAP than what left political parties and Congress have been able to achieve?

                  Pankaj 




                  On Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:48 AM, "shabnamhashmi@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


                   
                  Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

                  How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

                  AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

                  Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

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                  From: "Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com>
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                  Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP

                   


                   
                  Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
                   
                   
                  Kaleem Kawaja
                   
                   
                   
                  Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
                   
                   While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.
                  For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 
                  Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?
                  Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
                   
                   





                • Harpreet
                  It is very important for good and genuine efforts for democracy and people s participation taint is AAP to be united and based on dialogue. I agree with
                  Message 8 of 9 , Jun 10, 2014
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                    It is very important for good and genuine efforts for democracy and people's participation taint is AAP to be united and based on dialogue. I agree with Daniel! 

                    Harpreet 

                    Sent from my iPad

                    On 07-Jun-2014, at 1:54 pm, "Daniel Mazgaonkar daniel.mazgaonkar@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                     

                    Yes, my friend Kaleemji,

                    You are right. There are problems and problems. I think the best solution would be that they call a Sangeeti (A A P community meeting) in which all be invited and sit for two-three days at one place and thrash out all the issues, including the leadership issue. And people like you and many others who take an objective view of the present situation, should also sit with them.

                    But would they be willing ? That is the question. I think, you should directly talk to Yogendra Yadav, if possible, Medha Patkar, and some others, so that such a meeting, leaving our own biases out, be called soon, nay, soonest.

                    Regards,

                    Daniel.


                    On 5 June 2014 08:45, shabnamhashmi@... [arkitectindia] <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                     

                    Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

                    How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

                    AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

                    Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

                    Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

                    From: "Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com>
                    Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:18:16 -0400
                    Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP

                     



                     
                    Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
                     
                     
                    Kaleem Kawaja
                     
                     
                     
                    Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
                     
                     While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

                    For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

                    Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

                    Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
                     
                     




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                    र्म - जाति - पंथ - भाषा - पक्ष - प्रांत
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                  • Kaleem Kawaja
                    To some extent it is good for AAP that they are going through this turmoil early in their life. Some of their sincere and sensible leaders will be able to
                    Message 9 of 9 , Jun 10, 2014
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                      To some extent it is good for AAP that they are going through this turmoil early in their life.  Some of their sincere and sensible leaders will be able to draw good lessons from it.  That Aap should not make forming a govt in a hurry in several states a target.  Changing politics by targeting and removing corrupt politicians is an important target of AAP, more important than gaining power in several states.  

                      Presently several people joined AAP because they thought it is rising fast like a rocket and with that they will also rise fast.  Look at all those photo opportunity folks who made very little contribution.  This process will filter them out.  The questions of personality cult and cronies monopolizing power at the top of the party are good cleansing agents.

                      Kaleem Kawaja 

                      Sent from my iPhone

                      On Jun 10, 2014, at 8:19 AM, "Harpreet harpreetkaur.jass@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                       

                      It is very important for good and genuine efforts for democracy and people's participation taint is AAP to be united and based on dialogue. I agree with Daniel! 

                      Harpreet 

                      Sent from my iPad

                      On 07-Jun-2014, at 1:54 pm, "Daniel Mazgaonkar daniel.mazgaonkar@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

                       

                      Yes, my friend Kaleemji,

                      You are right. There are problems and problems. I think the best solution would be that they call a Sangeeti (A A P community meeting) in which all be invited and sit for two-three days at one place and thrash out all the issues, including the leadership issue. And people like you and many others who take an objective view of the present situation, should also sit with them.

                      But would they be willing ? That is the question. I think, you should directly talk to Yogendra Yadav, if possible, Medha Patkar, and some others, so that such a meeting, leaving our own biases out, be called soon, nay, soonest.

                      Regards,

                      Daniel.


                      On 5 June 2014 08:45, shabnamhashmi@... [arkitectindia] <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
                       

                      Why all this is dawning on you now after she has resigned? And in your long list of social activists what is mr kumar vishwas' claim to fame? Highly filthy anti women poetry? Praising mr modi? Is that called being an activist?

                      How come she was part of the core committee for so long if as you call her : " She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house."

                      AAP has a lot of good people with right politics but they don't run the show. As is visible it runs on whims and fancies of mr kejrival.

                      Is AAP ready to ask mr kejrival to leave and to stop the natak everyday and do some serious politics. If AAP is serious about filling the vacuum with progressive politics then a lot of churning has to take place. That can happen when you don't have a dictator and an autocrat at the top, which is unfortunately the reality right now.

                      Sent on my BlackBerry® from Vodafone

                      From: "Kaleem Kawaja kaleemkawaja@... [arkitectindia]" <arkitectindia@yahoogroups.com>
                      Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 10:18:16 -0400
                      Subject: [Arkitect India] Fwd: Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP

                       



                       
                      Shazia Ilmi's resignation from AAP
                       
                       
                      Kaleem Kawaja
                       
                       
                       
                      Shazia Ilmi is a good social activist but currently she lacks the stamina for real struggle, sacrifice and perseverance for alternative politics that entails much hardship. She is a “silk stocking” activist who drives a mercedes car and lives in a posh house. Compare her intellectual abilities and her ctivism record with other high profile AAP people eg: AK, Yadav, Bhushan, Sisodia, Vishwas Kumar, Medha Patkar, Anjali sanyal, Anjali Damania, Kanchan Bhattacharya, Rajmohan Gandhi, Ashish Khetan, Phulka, Udaykumar. She simply does not compare. She was a prominent AAP leader prior to December 2013 when AAP was small and confined to Delhi. As AAP has grown and has attracted many good activists with solid social activism and intellectual background, there is a competition for leadership in AAP. Only those who make substantial contribution will come up in the top ranks of leadership. In this democratic tussle Shazia is finding herself not very high and is frustrated. The remedy lies in her working harder to contribute more quality stuff and not be a cry baby all the time.
                       
                       While other senior AAP leaders agreed to contest parliamentary election from outside Delhi, she looked for a sdafe seat. Ghaziabad was a good seat for her as it is only a outer suburb of Delhi where Delhi TV channels are always seen. In the polling she placed 5th in Ghaziabad. Previously she lost in the Delhi state election from RK Puram – her home constituency. In the parliamentary election she played on both sides of the religiious divide; first she prayed at a Hindu temple and got her photo of that event displayed; then in Mumbai she told a Muslim community meeting to be “more communal”. Indeed with these actions she put AAP in a tough spot to face many questions from the media and public. It is very strange that the same media that was then demanding that AAP sack Shazia is now exploiting her leaving AAP to blast AAP.

                      For anyone to say that Shazia comes with support from the Muslim community is a height of imagination. Is the Muslim community so dumb that any Muslim candidate who appears secular will get their support without the candidate giving any demonstration of their abilities and contribution. It made me laugh when someone said that even Salman Khurshid does not qualify for the august position of being a secular Muslim politician. Also Jyoti Punwani a journalist in Mumbai went just too far in saying that no Muslim candidate of Congress, SP, BSP is really secular; that they all are tainted with the “Muslim color”. Look around and you will find many. Some of Shazia’s criticisms of AAP’s tactics are what some other AAP leaders have also pointed out. Indeed in recent weeks Yadav discussed Shazia’s comments with her in detail and asked her to put it up in the AAP national committee meeting due in the next few days. But she chose to resign and create a media sensation to draw attention to herself. Indeed with her cry baby tactics Shazia is constantly demanding attention and for her suggestions to be accepted as AAP policies. She forgets that now AAP has about two dozen real luminaries with real record and real abilities. She has to compete not ask for special treatment. 

                      Shazia pooh poohing AK’s struggle against the misinterpretation of the law that demands anyone who identifies corrupt politicians shows her lack of stamina to struggle against common injustice to the aam aadmis. Ask the millions of “under-trials” who are in jail because of spurious charges and who lack the ability to give even a Rs 1,000 bond. Is that not high injustice that AAP should struggle against? Indeed this 1880 British law has since been abrogated by the parliament in UK. Why are Indian courts slavishly still following this miinterpretation?

                      Finally knowing that AAP is going through hard times presently and under much pressure from the new BJP govt and media where was the wisdom and sincerity in resigning from AAP?  Other than providing more fuel to AAP’s critics. Why is Shazia asking for special treatment?
                       
                       




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                      -----------------
                      र्म - जाति - पंथ - भाषा - पक्ष - प्रांत
                      विषमता का अंत याने सर्वोदय.



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