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Re: [Arkitect India] A formal structure of School Education in India

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  • Sarwat Ali
    Those who are graduates would be elemenatry teachers and would be appointed as TGT ( Trained garduate teachers) Gardaute + B.Ed degree Those who would have
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 21, 2013
      Those who are graduates would be elemenatry teachers and would be appointed as TGT ( Trained garduate teachers) Gardaute + B.Ed degree 
      Those who would have post graduate degree would be seconadary teachers and would appointed as PGT's , post graduate + B.Ed degree 
      In south upto grade VII it is elementary school.  from VIII th to XIIth is secondary 
      Your concern is genuine, about grade VIIIth in south, is it elemenatry or secondary
      If we consider pedagogy it would dfifer as children in grade VIII are still in concrete operational stage. 
      There are discrepancies which need to be addressed.
      In Jharkhand mostly postgraduates are doing B.Ed because additional marks are given during admisssion to B.ED for Post graduation, so  all students wheteher graduate or postgraduate, during teaching practice teach IX to XII , so bascally no teachers for elemenatry grade are being preapred by B.Ed colleges. 
      I am curious to understand what is basicaaly your concern Jitendra Sharma sb 


      On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Dr. Jitendra Sharma <drjite@...> wrote:
       

      Thank you Prof. Janki for your response. Further to your response please consider the following:

      In the 'Norms and standards for diploma in elementary teacher education             programme leading to Diploma in elementary education (D.El.Ed)' of 31        August 2009 the following is stipulated in the Preamble:

      "The programme aims at preparing teachers for elementary stage of             education that is Classes I to VII/VIII."

      In the Preamble of 'Norms and Standards for Bachelor of education             programme leading to Bachelor of Education (B.Ed) degree' (of 31 August             2009) the following is promulgated by the NCTE:

      "The Bachelor of Education programme, generally known as B.Ed., is a             professional course that prepares teachers for upper primary or middle             level             (classes VI-VIII), secondary (classes IX-X) and senior secondary             (classes XI-  XII) levels."

       On the basis of the above the following further issues emerge:

      1. Whether the classes VI to VII are the Elementary classes?

      2. Whether the classes VI to VIII are the Elementary classes?

      3. Whether the classes VI to VIII are the Secondary classes?

      4. If the Classes VI to VIII are the Elementary classes then how can the B.Ed.  course "prepare teachers for upper primary or middle level (classes VI-VIII)"?

      5. If the Classes VI-VIII are the Secondary classes then how can the Preamble of 'Norms and standards for diploma in elementary teacher education programme leading to Diploma in elementary education (D.El.Ed)' promulgated on 31 August 2009 by the NCTE state that "The programme aims at preparing teachers for elementary stage of education that is Classes I to VII/VIII."

      5. Does the NCTE feel that two distinct teacher education programmes (one Diploma Course and the other the University Degree Course) can prepare teachers to teach the same classes?

      6. Section 2 (f) of 'The Right of Children to Free and Compulsory Education Bill, 2008' (The Bill No. LXV of 2008) already passed by both the Houses of the Parliament says that:

      "elementary education" means the education from first class to eighth class.

      Does the NCTE not abide by the above policy statement contained in 'The Right of Children to Free and Compulsory Education Act, 2008' and continue to maintain that the "Teacher preparation course for secondary education, generally known as B.Ed., is a professional course that prepares teachers for upper primary/middle level (classes VI-VIII) ....................................."?

      What I feel is that these issues also need attention as these have far reaching implications for shaping the Teacher Education in the country. Similar is the issue of the differences and distinctions between an M.A. Education and an M.Ed. How does the one differ from the other in its objectives? 

      Hope the other members of this Group will find time to respond to these issues.

      Dr. Jitendra Sharma

      09314714768



      On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Janaki Rajan <rajan.janaki@...> wrote:
       

      Whether the words like 'Primary School' and "primary classes' and the 'Upper Primary School' and the 'Upper Primary classes' still in vogue? Yes

      2. If yes, then what does the term 'Elementary Education' refer to? Classes I-VIII
      3. If yes, which classes are covered under the term 'Primary classes'? CLasses I-V
      4. If yes, which classes are covered under the term 'Upper Primary classes'?CLasses VI-VIII
      5. If yest, which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for 'Primary classes'? Diploma in elementary Education run by DIETs and private teacher education institutions; B.El. Ed. (Delhi University)
      6. If yes, which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for 'Upper Primary classes' B.Ed.
      7. Which classes are covered under the 'Secondary Education'? Classes IX, X. Classes XI, XII are called senior secondary
      8. Which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for the 'Secondary Education'? B.Ed. For senior secondary, MA with B.Ed.



      On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 12:15 AM, Dr. Jitendra Sharma <drjite@...> wrote:
       

      There are a number of Educationists as members of this Group. I write this to seek their views/opinion or the factual information if they have on the following issues:

      1. Whether the words like 'Primary School' and "primary classes' and the 'Upper Primary School' and the 'Upper Primary classes' still in vogue?
      2. If yes, then what does the term 'Elementary Education' refer to?
      3. If yes, which classes are covered under the term 'Primary classes'?
      4. If yes, which classes are covered under the term 'Upper Primary classes'?
      5. If yest, which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for 'Primary classes'?
      6. If yes, which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for 'Upper Primary classes'?
      7. Which classes are covered under the 'Secondary Education'?
      8. Which Teacher Education programme prepares teachers for the 'Secondary Education'? 

      Kindly respond.
      Dr. Jitendra Sharma
      09314714768






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